Some Communists came to my school and passed out flyers. As the right =) person I am I burned them and now the teachers are going to report this to the cops... What did I do wrong? Arrest the commies instead... That was pure communist propaganda... They claimed that we already had the cure for AIDS but the capitalist pharmasist companies would not develope it...

some could say the communists have their freedom of speech,

but if burning the flag is freedom of speech,

so should burning some pamphlets.

i'd go with that defense.

More power to the Communists, although you shouldnt get in any trouble. But more so, what kind of school lets Communists come in and pass out flyers (unless they're students)?

You should be arrested for being an idiot.

Bah he stood for what he believes and showed his real devotion, is this stupid? Depends I guess.

there might be a cure for aids. if there was what motive would companies have to develop it? aids sufferes are on the whole poor, and no one who matters really cares anyway, so why?

why are you against them passing out flyers? they have just as much right to pass it out as you do to burn it. (are you being busted for lighting a fire?). if you disagreee then ignore it, or actually talk to one of them about it with your thoughts about it. unless, of course, you know absolutly nothing about communisim except for the catch phrases spouted by the goverment during the mcarthy era. if you don't like it then ignore it, its not doing you any harm, or, try to educate yourself about it and make an educated decision, not a brainwashed decision.

Im against them being Communists, and Id have done somethign similar, but probably added a scathing attack on the corruption of Mordecai (Communism).
Youre probably in trouble for starting a fire in school dipshit.

I burned the papers after they said that i have been fooled by communism for saying that they allready had destroyed Russia and China and why would they want do destroy Sweden.
I did actually have a discussion with them but they kept talking about how women got raped and that we should allow more immigrants to come here. And that is kind of stupid because 96% of all the group rapes are made by immigrants.

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[B]there might be a cure for aids. if there was what motive would companies have to develop it? aids sufferes are on the whole poor, and no one who matters really cares anyway, so why?
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What kind of idiot are you? Do you realize the promotional value of curing AIDS? This would be second only to a cure for cancer in the publics mind, and whatever company developed it would be hailed as a miracle worker. People would favor their products, even if they didn't need a cure for AIDS.

And imagine the research grants they'll no longer recieve.

There's nothing wrong with burning Communist propaghanda if you're against it - but you said it as if their passing out flyers wasn't a fundemental right. Also, it doesn't hurt to recognize that the worst Commie rhetoric isn't much worse then the Capitalist propaghanda you here every day.

you know nasty there are several communist countries in the world today, If you like it so much move there.

i can't think of any communist countries. i can think of a few dictatorships that claim communisim and equality to thier 'comrades' from there palaces, but there is no true communist nation. you could say that communisim will always deteriorate into that, so that is by definition, communisim, but im not defending it, so your wasting your breath. i just think that capatilism is just as bad, unless of course, you are in the top 20% (as opposed to the top .5% in 'communisim').

NO not top 20.. Atleast not in Sweden.. Top 80 wolud be more correct..

Isn't Sweden socialist?

Although I am a Communist the ones that came to your school sound pretty stupid. They're just using normal anti-capitalist tactics. Yea Socialism and Communism sound nice but in the end Capitalism will out spend and last them.

4 now the Socialists are elected.. But they are not so socialistic...

No good has ever come out of a communist government, or rather any good that has come out of a communist government pales in comparisson to the attrocities the system bred; and before you try to stick the halocaust on capitalism I think I should remind you that the second word in NSDAP socialism.

Yeah right. The Nazi's were about as socialist as Ronald Reagan.

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>>Btw, true communist countries would exist and thrive if the western powers allowed them too. If the evil industrial world didn't dedicate itself to destroying communism, communism wold be a dominant and succesful system this day.<<

Don't you think that a main foundation of a form of government should be, that it can survive the attacks of it's enemies? Communism cannot survive in the reality of life, it is flawed.

And, pray, what the hell do you know about the economic policies of the third reich?

If Communist was the system that controlled 85% of the world, a capitalist government wouldn't last long either.

Communism encourages people to shoot low and not care seeing as they all get paid the same whether they are a janitor or a neurosurgeon.

I would have no reason to do any job that was not an easy one because I would get paid the same.

The Neurosurgeons do get paid more, just not much more. People make much more money then they should be allowed to make in a capitalist system. In communism, you can work hard and live comfortably... simply not too comfortably in that it would explot others.

No, its just the people that benefit from the exploitation are the politicians.

people say that it is flawed. is it more flawed than capatilism? think about it. russia could have been communist for a while yet, and cuba can stay communist for a long time. it keeps the population loyal and trusting, like capatilism. it is the same, as people are forced into positions they don't like, and cannot do anything about it. when marx was thinking up communism he did ont anticipate conditions where the most powerful countires were trying to run it into the ground. if the world were communist, and capatilism was starting up, then it would be regaurded the same way as communisim is now.

Germany was fascist during the halocaust

First of all germanies public works programs and heavy handed economic policies durring the thirties resemble the new deal more closely than reganomics.

second communism fails because Of the structure of its economy. In a free market economy a person eventualy is In the job most suited to them because of merit or lack thereof. Also the rich become rich because they fill a need.

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>>>people say that it is flawed. is it more flawed than capatilism?<<<<

Yes.

>>>>think about it. russia could have been communist for a while yet, and cuba can stay communist for a long time. it keeps the population loyal and trusting, like capatilism.<<<<

People hate and fear communist governments, they are not loyal and trusting. Thats pretty sad dude.

>>>>it is the same, as people are forced into positions they don't like, and cannot do anything about it. when marx was thinking up communism he did ont anticipate conditions where the most powerful countires were trying to run it into the ground.<<<<<

They wouldnt have to. Their flawed interpretation of humanity will do that.

>>> if the world were communist, and capatilism was starting up, then it would be regaurded the same way as communisim is now.<<<<

Here I am #35456-3445, a good Communist citizen. In my communal barracks is a man who works much harder than me, and seeing him do that inspired me just yesterday to dig a lot faster than the rest. And I even invented a clever little way of working a little smarter and being more efficient. At the end of my work day, I went home proud and got in line with #-3449, hes a drunkard, like most of the fellas in the commune, and ate gruel. Yum. God bless equality. I am a loyal follower with trust in my govt.

If someone in the next town over encouraged that fella to take his inventiveness and go work with them, to eat meat and sleep with a woman instead of his comrades, Im sure hed leap at the chance.

ahhhh poor pathetic naive fool

you are already a number. if you refuse to belive that then you might want to rethink everything.


people hate and fear capatilist goverments too. there are feeble people who try and find individuality in patriotisim. in a capatilist society the fear does not come from the goverment (at least, not always) it comes from goverment controls. money, fear and patriotism are a few of the ways that the goverment keeps the population under control. no one likes it, but no one can do anything about it, like capatilism, like communisim.


"People hate and fear communist governments, they are not loyal and trusting. Thats pretty sad dude. "
who do you speak for exactly. don't pretend to know what 'people' want. try, 'i hate and fear...'


why do assume communisim means everyone groups together in a massive commune and eats gruel?


flawed interpretation? are you saying that capatilism is the best their is?

you know, in captilism, half of the world is living in poverty, but there is enough food for everyone. why do you think that they do not get fed? don't crap on about 'they don't work hard enough', because, they would be the hardest working people in the world.

There are those nations made wealthy by capitalism and then there are nations made slightly less poor by capitalism. Why would someone labor in a factory instead of growing there own food, Because even though conditions are bad they are better than the alternative, Or they exist in a state in which they are forced to by a despot.

the basis of the economy is simple. rich exploit the poor. if the poor get wealthy, or 'slightly less poor', then they are, by definition, no longer exploited. everything in our society is made in third world countries, if they become rich, or demand fair wages, then, the price of everything would skyrocket. why do unionists get murdered daily in numerous places? (the worst offender being columbia)

just today some WTO boss said that you can't tax the rich because it will hurt the poor. am i the only one who thinks that is disrutbing.

IF you tax someone that money goes to pay beurocrats in government instead of being used in industry, which give jobs to people who produce a product or a service. that service that is rendered or that product that is produced goes to raise the value of the money. so yes by taxation you hurt the economy, and everyone associated with it. Except buerocrats and munnitions suppliers.

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Actually, The Nazis were National Socialists.

Heres an idea...

Insted of saying capitalism is the best because people are selfish and corupt, why not try and change society and its values so these people cant get away with being so corrupt.

Bull shit taxes hurt the economy. I will agree if you tax at huge levels you will discorage investment, but some taxes are definatly a good thing.

I know Americans dont belive that people should have free health care or social security, that the poor deserve to live in shit because they cant be bothered to work hard enough to get a job, that anyone who works hard will prosper, but this is the real world, life kicks you when your down and then it laughs. Small amounts of taxes can be spent on the walfare state without these lazy good for nothing leach's destroying the moral fabric of the glorious nation of the U.S. of A.

Capitalism in its purest form exploits the weak for the benifit of the strong, whilst trying to convince the world that the whole world can be strong. The foundation of capitalism is the exploitation of the people at the bottem, if the people at the bottem work thier way up, other people must fall down.

What's wrong with that?

so, jo662, 50% is a little, Apparently european education isn't all its cracked up to be. You see jo free health care isn't free you pay alot more for it actually. Since the institution of medicare and medicaid which pay half the medical costs for seniors and impovrerished americans the cost of medicine has increased thrice fold with inflation factored out this is an increase that began with the institution of these two beurocraticly kafkaesque programs. the end result of this is that the poor and the elderly pay three times more than they would for these services without government interference. I am also proud to say that I live in a county where you don't have to wait a year for a simple heart bypass, that is something that you cannot say. No socialism was not the major player in raising the quality of life. Henry Ford did more in the way of ammeliorating the standard of living than any disciple of Engles ever did now get the fuck over it.

Communism doesnt work, and neither does socialism, because its the embodiment of the tall poppy syndrome. If you see somebody rising above the crowd then you pull him back down and tell him to stop exploiting others. Thats bullshit. Communism will never be able to raise everyones standards to the highest common factor. So instead it just makes sure that everyone lives in the gutter instead of just the poor. Get used to it, the world isnt fair. Why should i have my money taken to pay for the wlfare of someone i have no interest in? I dont care wether he drops dead or not, but i do care wether the government is stealing money that I worked for whilst they have done nothing for.

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So, you want to maintain that you have a right to free speech, but you think that the commie's shouldn't have it?

Communists are admittedly globalist with hostility to the American constitution and its political and economic systems. People who will the overthrow of a state, posers or not, do not enjoy the same rights as people who wish to maintain it.

Of course they do Spirit( It's so wierd to not type Defiant now). The tolerance of people with hostility towards our political machinations are geat examples of how well they[the machinations] can work.

Socialism isn't neccessarily were the masses pull down the gifted. It's simply state-regulated industry. If you put those who can excel in positions of power, they will do what they will work in whatever direction they feel they should and manage the masses.