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| Politics: Left, Right, and Center National, state, regional, and local politics. Who's doing what to whom, and what you can do about it. How-to-get-action messages are encouraged. "How the government fucked up my life" stories are encouraged. Sharing new methods for cheating on taxes is encouraged. Sample "letters to congresscritters" are encouraged. Apathy and "I can't do anything" posts are discouraged. Left, right, centrist, or any other form of political-economic systems are all up for discussion. Be prepared to defend yourself, or at least have a good line of bullshit ready. Extensive quoting of economists and philosophers is frowned upon. We want to hear what YOU have to say, not what some constipated, impotent, dead guy dreamt up while suffering from the DT's over a hundred years ago thought. |
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This particular thread is a partial recovery - page 1 of its original capture was never archived, so some posts from that page are missing below.
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#1
 2001-12-10, 05:09
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Skinn
Covington is not a traitor or informant, that is Fed propaganda advanced by the corrupt American National Alliance. He is the one good leader we got, so he is naturally and shamelessly slandered, villified, and attacked. Law suits filed by NA people with the support of the Fed govt have bankrupted him and piece of shit jurisdiction issues have exiled him from his home state. I do not know how legit the rest of your info can be on C18 if your sources tell you Covington is not solid. But he did say C18 was a buncha cokeheads when he visited them.
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#2
 2001-12-10, 21:32
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preying mantis 
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Re: Skinn
As far as i'm aware the source is british and from far right so i'm not really sure what do belive. Most of the other information is right. From reading it again i can see what you mean but that could be a ploy from his side to weed out the people not suited to the cause.
Incite them to make bombs then rat on them to the FEDs. It's what i'd do if i didn't want moles in the organisation.
Skinn >>> The British people are beginning to see through the lies of the corrupt government.
This year i voted Conservative for the general elections (where i live is one of their five safest seats) and in the locals i voted for the UKIP as they were the only party who stood against the euro in my area.
I voted conservative mainly because i'd rather they were in than labour or lib dem.
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#3
 2001-12-11, 00:09
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skinn 
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Re: Skinn
Not so long ago I would have wholeheartedly disagreed with you for voting for the conservative scum, but now labour have gotten so bad and so 'up there own arses' that I really can not bring myself to calling you a traitor this that and the other.
Is there any real difference though? One will destroy us from the left, the other from the right. Both out comes are pretty much the same.
I support the BNP, if there was no other party for the local election, the UKIP (is that right) United Kingdom independence party? I would possible vote for them, having looked into it a little more. Do they have a web address?
Labour have just come out in favour of asylum seekers being forced to learn English before being allowed citizenship, as well as forced integration in to white Britain on the whole I know it is just another plan to steal votes for the white "I'm not racist but" jokers. Nothing will be done; Asians will still get their free ride.
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#4
 2001-12-11, 01:44
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preying mantis 
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Re: Skinn
I'd rather get screwed by people that actually admit they'd screw us than those that say they wont and then do.
You're probably right about the shit blunkett spurts. More working class white votes. This only shows what a bunch of hypocrits the Labour party really is.
Good idea though, shame it will never get done.
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#5
 2001-12-12, 01:41
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skinn 
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Re: Skinn
Doing something though is better then doing nothing. Voting for lying peace's of shit scum is better than not voting at all then complain endlessly about how bad the government is. At least if you vote and your party gets in and they are shit, you have only yourself to blame. The upside is if the party you did not vote for gets in and they are shit, then you can bitch about being right!
Truth is, we can only do what we think is right. Votes for those you feel may be better than the others and who say they stand for what you believe in. Either that or become a political leader yourself. (I don�t have the balls for that)
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#6
 2001-12-12, 02:27
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preying mantis 
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Re: Skinn
There are three main reasons why i still stand by the conservatives against lib-dem and labour.
Labour are making everystep to destroy the house of lords. This will allow them as the majority in the house of commons to elect more of their own peers effectively making it easier for them to push through their liberal and soul destroying laws.
At least they tell you they're going to tax you or make something even worse, or even better still, they tell you that they fucked up, more than the labour party dare do.
Margret Thatcher was a tory.
Who wanted the UKIP link? http://www.independenceuk.org.uk/
more http://www.ukup.org/ http://www.bnp.org.uk/ http://www.bnsm.co.uk/ http://www.natfront.com/
Laters,
Mantis
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#7
 2001-12-12, 23:18
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skinn 
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Re: Skinn
You are right there is no hope for labour, they are just as bad as any other party, which is really sad, and I had high hopes for them. Tories though, could never bring myself to vote for them again.
We need change, we ourselves must work for that change, and the well being of our own country must be seen as a personal task, a vacation if you will. The betterment of our country then the world in general.
Thank you for the links. I'll read then later tonight.
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#8
 2001-12-13, 01:50
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preying mantis 
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Re: Skinn
I stopped liking the Tories once Maggie went (not that i really liked them in the first place)
My first brush with the BNP and NF was when i was 12 at school and my friend came into school and gave us all a number to ring to get an information pack.
I did steer very heavily into the right wing at one point but realised that they would rather see a white Britain than a strong one and also that no-one listens to you if you involve yourself with the far right. I'm now what i consider a loner. I support no-one but myself.
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#9
 2001-12-14, 00:41
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Re: Skinn
Are you working to build your own political party? One that is free from corruption? One that will give strength to your country? To the world as a whole?
If not how is this better than doing nothing?
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#10
 2001-12-14, 01:53
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preying mantis 
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Re: Skinn
To be honest i did think about it but didn't turn that brief spark of an idea into anything else.
All i can say in my defense is that no-one gives a shit. If i do start my own party i struggle against the other 50 partys that are single issue or only campaign locally.
Also my policies overlap that of other partys so whats the point. We'll just be splitting the few voters that want to vote into smaller segments which will be even worse than not doing anything.
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#11
 2001-12-14, 01:57
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Re: Skinn
quote: Originally posted by skinn: Are you working to build your own political party? One that is free from corruption? One that will give strength to your country? To the world as a whole?
If not how is this better than doing nothing?
Sorry i mis-read your post and took it the wrong way. No, by a loner i mean that i support no party, although i do vote in all the elections. I refuse to get tied down to a particular party and will vote the most pro-british party at the time. If it turns out that the labour party will do the most for my country and make it stronger then i will vote labour, but i know that they are full of bullshit and that would never happen.
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