While being deprived of critical knowledge of American history, including our founding documents, students are being transformed into "global citizens" who pledge allegiance to the earth, not the United States. This is an example of an earth pledge imposed on fourth grade students in a Pennsylvania public school. Notice the U.N. symbol at the top.

is there something wrong with that...am i blind?

i think it's kinda good that they are trying to teach kids to have patrism (sp?) for the world

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Originally posted by GHETTO_SMURF:
i think it's kinda good that they are trying to teach kids to have patrism (sp?) for the world

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hehe, "Patriotism" in this case means "total allegiance" to "the earth spirit" and the new world order.

i see it as they are trying to get all the kids to understand that they have to work together to get world peace...did i view it wrong...was my interpretation wrong?

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I am opposed to making small children say they pledge their allegence to anything. One reason is because they have no idea what it means and are not capable to make the decision to do so. Another is because it has a repetitive cult aspect to it which causes them to accept things thoughtlessly.

okay...i am sorry..i take everything back!

jesus christ! i can't even speak my opinion without someone finding whats wrong with it.



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Don't do that... I agree. I don't think there's anything wrong with that either. People can choose to pledge whatever faith to what they want. The fact that schools force children to pledge themselves to something they have no reason to trust, only predicts the fact they are going to look for something that means something more special to themselves. I suppose I'm going to be told I missed the point... I probably did. I'm just reminiscing bad memories of that awful pledge and it's in-forcers.

Suddenly, Alan Smithee is the most self aware replier to this post...

How is that being self aware?

That's a beutiful thing. Kids aren't wasting their time honoring this pathetic country. Instead, they're honoring the world, which is their true nationality.

Of course they shouldn't be FORCED to pledge allegiance to anything. My school tried to force me to pledge to the damn flag, and I flat our refused (warrenting suspention).

If we were to pledge to anything, it should be the constitution, not the flag. The flag is a meaningless garmet.

The only thing I like about the American flag is the freedom to burn it, which is the one thing I like about America.

Bah... getting way off topic.

Yes, I admire pledging to the earth instead of the flag.

"and i saw the beast rise out of the sea..."

Did anyone else just stand there and not say the pledge, and not get in trouble for it? I'm starting to feel like the only person who's ever stood in homeroom with his arms folded, not saying anything, and gone unnoticed.

You mean to tell me that you even stood up?

Phys Ed and going from class to class didn't burn enough energy.

Really, I didn't like the pledge, so I didn't say the pledge. I never had much problem with standing.

... it ended up that I didn't have to even standup for it, I got away with the excuse that I wasn't completely an American citizen.

i dont need to be a global citizen
cause im blessed with nationality
im a member of a growing populace
we reinforce our popularity

bad religion - american jesus

you dont have to say the pledge...you really dont...the only problem is that everyone else doesnt know that and to enforce it youd have to read up and do a lot of shit (weekend project?)....

i agree with alan too...these kids dont have fucking clue what they hell the significance of what they are saying....fucking pledging to whatever the fuck it is you pledge to and use your own make your own fucking beliefs....stop following everyone else god damn idea

el privo

It's almost like a poem... with little taste, so it's understandable that seven year olds are unable to analyze it's content, and even if they could, it would be to much to ask of them, to have such political view, towards or against, at thier age. The Pledge involves so much more than just "honor" to America. In a country where prayer is banned from schools, the pledge actually encourages the belief of god. What about those who are not christian or catholic? Unfortunately for those who the pledge does not apply to; certain religions, nationalities(that live in the States), and so on... their are as many people wanting to stricken the tradition, as their are those who oppose it.

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That's why I love Australia. I don't even know the first couple of lines of the National Anthem. In fact, I don't think I know anybody who does.

the best and only way to make this planet nice and hospitable is to slaughter every last human and fertilize the ground with their rotten viscera

for the first (and probably last) time i agree with smithee. Children are the most free people on this planet and it should be kept that way.

I think the whole US thing with flags everywhere is a bit too nationalistic and could incite racism.

a_uk

I live in Pennsylvania and am very disgusted to learn that this is what my state is imposing on little children. Why start at the fourth grade, why not kindergarten?! I just hope the schools around where I live will never fall into that trap!

They tried to get me when I was young to sign one of those to never use drugs!

But I like the global one, not because of what it does/doesn't do, but because of its message. Those uppers know the kid won't remember the "contract" in a year, they also know that its not valid if they did. But the kid just might remember that the world would be a better place if everyone could work together


(like that could ever happen)