over the last few weeks, ive been trying in vain to figure out a way to milk some information outta the west vancouver police department. they currently have an open case on me and it would be helpfull for me to know the particulars of what they know. i was thinking some RSE might do the trick but i cant figure out how to make em come to me. they have a crime stoppers # and i know the name of their web-designer, who is a constable, but thats about all i know. i need the name of the constable thats working my case and i dont want em to know its me who's asking.

any ideas?


Phracktal

how old are u? if your still in school u can set up an apointment with them. say your doing a report at school about proceedures and shit like that. its easy cause u can just write everything down without having to be sneaky about it.

I'm fairly certain that Canadian police departments are obliged to give you information in your "file" upon your request however I am not certain about open cases.

Moving this might be appropriate as it has nothing to do with network security and hacking other than social engineering but there is nowhere better to move it to.

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Originally posted by A.H.Ames:
over the last few weeks, ive been trying in vain to figure out a way to milk some information outta the west vancouver police department. they currently have an open case on me and it would be helpfull for me to know the particulars of what they know.

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First, I would presume that they know absolutely nothing, since I am completely innocent.

Secondly, they won't give you or anyone else any information, they are trained not to.

You could go down and raise a disturbance and complain like heck if you really know that they are trying to make a case against you, but for the most part the best advice is to never talk to them at all or you might stick your foot in your mouth.

If you holler and bang your fist enough times (day after day) they might begin to believe you.
You would have to be a really good actor or be innocent.
I doubt if you are a good actor.

You could Pray alot. Sometimes that works.

I would probably advise to just remain silent and if and when you are charged, do not ever speak to them without having an attorney present.

Really. NEVER NEVER TALK TO THE COPS EVER!!! without an attorney present.

They will interrogate you and trick you, the bad cop will decieve you and threaten you, pressure you, rape you, then the nice cop will be 'your friend and understand you and cry on your shoulder and suck your penis even, Some of these lying bastards are so good at interrogating they will come up with signed confessions signed by people who truly had absolutely had nothing to do with the offense. 20 years later they are still in prison until some true evidence comes up, the true offender is captured, or DNA testing proves that the accused was absolutely innocent.

You can't sue them because they are immune from prosecution.

The point is NEVER EVER EVER TALK TO THE POLICE.

After you have been charged and you have a lawyer, then MAYBE.

Actually I think this is a spurious generality sort of question.

You could hide in the bathroom and phone in a convincing bomb scare and then go in the constables office and look for the file.

A real bomb might work better as it would also destroy the evidence.

What kind of horrible terribel thing could you have possibly done??

firstly, im 24 so the school thing is out. another complication about this is that it goes over international lines. the FBI, RCMP, and CBI were all notified about the possable threat and have tried to catch me in a few places allready. I need to know what they know so as to remain uncatchable.

another complication is that I cant leave well enough alone. I've traveled over 1600 miles to put myself closer to this plight and this case has been open for more than a year. I cant help myself really. its a major compulsion to wanna phuck with em. I've allready contacted the grand constable but it would appear that he doesnt wanna be my friend. (that bastard) He monitored some of my E-mails to friends and tried to send a contact unit to where he thought I would be but i had just moved outta there.

as for my offence, well, its hard to explain but I can tell You that they fear that I might be a danger to one of canada's most loved performers. She's got Her own private body guards (probably GDBinc.) and Ive seen pictures of a few of em.

i just need to know what they know. and i would prefer it if they told me without knowing that they told me.

any more ideas?


Phracktal

here's an idea:

you're paranoid and unstable and need to be medicated. turn yourself in for psychological treatment. now.

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Originally posted by A.H.Ames:
...another complication about this is that it goes over international lines. the FBI, RCMP, and CBI were all notified about the possable threat and have tried to catch me in a few places allready. I need to know what they know so as to remain uncatchable.

...another complication is that I cant leave well enough alone. ....I cant help myself really. its a major compulsion to wanna phuck with em.
Phracktal

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International? That means possibly INTERPOL.

Here is what I think: You are entertaining an obsession which may be self destructive.

You HAVE to learn one simple discipline. When you get into this mood, when you first recognize it coming on, MAKE A CONSCIOUS EFFORT to redirect your focus to something else. Try anything that works to get focused on something completely different. Put on some relaxation or meditatin music, go for a walk, socialize with someone (anyone).

Find whatever works to get your mind off of the problem and focused on something completely unrelated.

Probably you should shut of the internest for a few days at a time.

Whatever works. Some people might interpret this simply as 'Get a Life'.

There has to be alot of better things to do with your mind and talents than what you are doing.

You seem to be feeding the flames for your own demise, which might be interpreted as following the path of a loser. Wake up!

ClydeR

for the record, i am in treatment and i am medicated. however that doesnt mean that its helping much. perhaps i do need a life but this has been my life for over a year.

i dont think interpoll is dealing with this as the RCMP and the FBI seem to be handling it allright. i thought about using the freedom of information act to obtain my FBI file but that wont work for Canada.

i need to know who is in charge of this matter and if it will affect my crossing the border. (the CGIC might have been notified)

as for the self destructive nature of this plight, im aware that i might end up in some deep shit but according to canada's criminal code, section 264, the most i could get is 2 years. (time to contemplate better ways of doing buisness) im prepared to go to jail over this and in reality, i would prefer it be in canada.

its true that i wanna phuck with the constables but without knowing who is working the case, i might not be phucking with the right one.

how do i find out wich constable is working the case?

Phracktal

well first of all it's okay to be paranoid and about 1/3 of us here are on medication- your nothing special. get a good lawyer. a lot of us compulsively take stupid risks and keep going until we truly regret it so dont do it in the first place go on with your life get a girlfriend/wife since it sounds like you have some social expertise already and since it also sounds like you dont use a pc much and just have some legitimate fun and go on with your life the worst you can do is provoke the situation



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The police may be monitoring this site. You never know............

Is there an attorney on totse.com? Maybe someone should open up a Law and Legalities forum. Free legal advice........mmmmmmmmmm
*Sarcasm*

the legal forum doesn't sound like a bad idea considering all the people on this site that do stupid shit.

Your right though about me not being very computer literate. my social engeneering and perception management skills arn't to shabby but ive never had to use em on law enforcement before. im more of a phreaker than anything but Ma Bell is alot easier to play with than dudly doright.

i guess i could try to come across as a media person who heard about the story and wants to get the constable's take on it. i could tell him that the supposed "stalker" called the news room and tried to get em to do a story about the stalker and his victim. at least at that point, i would know who was in charge. who knows, i might even find out something more usefull.

i dont know. i'll see if i can come up with anything better before i go using up my oppertunity.


"it never hurts to help unless You help a porcupine"

Phracktal