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Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2002-12-14, 11:49
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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I swear im gonna cry! Ok earlier today some guy sent me a programme over msn! I thought he was a freind so i accepted.Anyway, it logged me out a few times and the next time i entered my whole contact list had been deleted. Then i got signed out again and i now he has changed my password! So i created a new acount and added myself(old acount) and im talking to him right now whilst he is on my acount and he doesnt know who i am but he says the only way he will give an acount back is if he gets money!!!
I have no idea what to do and where to go-anyone here can help me please? P.S his acount is steven_me85@hotmail.com and my old one(the one he took over)is god_im_sexy49@hotmai.com
Any help is appreciated thanks
P.P.S is blackmail an illegal offence?
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Old 2002-12-14, 12:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Deathrow588:
I swear im gonna cry!


Because someone hijacked your MSN account?

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Old 2002-12-14, 12:46
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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Because there is nothing i can do and i dont even know the guy AND he is demanding money. I am not really gonna cry but i really am annoyed,can you help me anyone?
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Old 2002-12-14, 13:27
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the happy land of australia
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short of doing what he did to you back, there is nothing. contacting microsoft with his details and an explination should get him banned quickly, they get trigger happy about stuff like that (there was a thing about hotmail a while ago). getting the law involved will just get you laughed at. so complain to microsoft (or whoever is in control of messenger at the moment) and if that fails try to fight back, although i doubt your chances on that front.
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Old 2002-12-14, 14:04
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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Yeh i doubt my chances of fighting bback too. I thought at first he was maybe using a bot or something but he has now aslo screwed up my web page so i think he has an idea what he is doing. How do i contact microsoft? Just e-mail them and tell them the problem? Will that work?
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Old 2002-12-14, 15:39
MaTrIXSpiirit MaTrIXSpiirit is offline
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Do you remember how big the so-called "program" was? And why would you accept it?

-=MaTrIXSpirit=-
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Old 2002-12-15, 04:54
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the happy land of australia
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here is the homepage, http://messenger.microsoft.com/
you should be able to find a link on that to report abuse.
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Old 2002-12-15, 05:14
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ahahahaahahahah u fell for that? i mean cmon, i wouldnt accept a exe file from my bestfriend. let me explain what to do. is this friend of ur u met over the net or do u know him? if u do and u can hack him bak, simple really, if u have access to his comp, put a trojan in and ur set, when he logs on to his or urs u'll have his pass, cahnge urs back and cahnge his while ur at it to teach him a lesson.

plan B. make a new email with a chicks name. pretend that the file is ur pic and send it to him.

either way works, unless he is smart then he would be wary of such things, fingers crossed u is a dumbass. hope ive helped
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Old 2002-12-15, 10:34
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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Yeh i know i shouldn't have accepted it but he was a freind. It was 37kb in size and i have reported it to hotmail but i wont get a reply(if i do get one)untill Monday.
Is there anyone here smart enough to do anything effective or should i leave it to hotmail?
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Old 2002-12-15, 16:00
ChibiMiko ChibiMiko is offline
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huh?, leave hotmail? what exactly do you mean by that? basicly get a firewall/format because no matter how many accounts to make he will have the password, because he still has a trojan on your computer (unless it was a one time bot to send all your passwords to him via e-mail).

Second the record for smallest trojan is 5k.
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Old 2002-12-15, 18:44
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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Ah no i meant leave it to hotmail to sort out. Yeh he has the password to only that acount but i want it back! fuck him he even tried to charge me for it! And who wants to bet hotmail either dont or cant do anything
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Old 2002-12-15, 19:33
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Monkey Island
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Cancel your webservice (In other words stop paying) and get a new account. Duh!
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Old 2002-12-15, 19:37
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Monkey Island
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you may want to scan you computer with panda or Norton or whatever.
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Old 2002-12-16, 11:19
ChibiMiko ChibiMiko is offline
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Bah, anyways since you seem to really care and are to lazy to make a new account and re-add everyone.

Do you know this guy personaly? Because if so get him arrested, if you live in the US they are really trigger happy on this and is looking for a good example, he can get hard time due to the new "Partoit" act which classifies hacking as terroisim, So take his black mail and black mail him!
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Old 2002-12-16, 19:50
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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No its not the contact list that bothers me its the fact that now everyone that i talked to thinks he is me. he can say whatever he wants to all my freinds and can read my e-mails.Send e-mails to anyone he wants saying its from me and also he is a fucking prick!I hate him and he deserves to be ballserized and fucking pissy hotmail still havent replied to my two e-mails i sent to them concerning this matter.FUCK THEM. Im gonna work for their customer care unti and make sure i help people like myself-untill i get bored.
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Old 2002-12-16, 21:47
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quote:
Send e-mails to anyone he wants saying its from me
This can easily be done without your MSN password.

In fact, in a clever social engineering plot you could probably send email "from" the highjacked account (without pass) to the highjacked account and trick this fool into either mailing you the password or something else which may allow you to re-gain access.
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Old 2002-12-16, 23:37
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ummm remeber those good ol email bombers? u can say ur from "youroldaddy@hotmail.com" and it'll send and on the from bit it says what u want, so basically u can send whatever u want from anyone's email. just just try using that and send something to everyone telling them it aint u. and 2ndly u dumbass!! (no offence but u havenmt answered) do u know him personally?
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Old 2002-12-17, 20:01
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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Oh right sorry. Yeh i knew him personnaly but he left school 4 weeks ago and has gone to St.Andrews University whitch is a bit away from me!
Anyway i THINK it might be getting sorted via hotmail but anyways....i know if i really wanted to i could do these things, i could get his IP if i wanted to too but i dont really yet. Surely pissing with him makes me just as bad if this gets at all serious?
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Old 2002-12-18, 00:13
cense cense is offline
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Default Re: Oh God Please Help

Obviously, if you plan any legal action you should stay away from invalidating your case by commiting criminal acts.
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Old 2002-12-18, 01:40
Das Troll Das Troll is offline
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sigh, scan your system with www.antivirus.com online or just format your comp. i never have anything on my comp that i cant get back in a day or so. or just back up all your shit then format and then scan the shit htat u backed up. and if u dont have a burner i weep for u.
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Old 2002-12-19, 15:41
Deathrow588 Deathrow588 is offline
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sigh even louder. I do not have a virus or trojan installed it is not that i care about, its sorted. Wot i care about is gettin my password back.
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Old 2002-12-19, 19:47
ChibiMiko ChibiMiko is offline
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Default Re: Oh God Please Help

If you do get it back he can just got that new password because he still has the trojan on your computer, if he uses one of the trojans with more options, he can upload new virus's, see your desktop, send key's to your computer, key logger, mouse clicks, turn your computer into a FTP/Telnet server not the menction the passwords...

So get that trojan before you do anything...

there are plenty of free trails, my fav trojan scanner is The Cleaner... www.moosoft.com I think the site is...
 
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