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Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2002-09-18, 15:20
The Falcon The Falcon is offline
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Can taking computer science classes at my local university help me hack?
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Old 2002-09-18, 15:51
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no.

Maybe if they deal with security, but most of them don�t have clue. My uni has a good reputation for computer science, but then you see a prof typing in his password in a V-formation, starting with q, making it qayse (in english qazse) ...
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Old 2002-09-18, 18:49
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If you have little computer experiance the courses will help you to understand computers better. And a better understanding in turn helps you to learn to hack. If you get very involved with it i suppose it could teach you things on the subject of viruses.
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Old 2002-09-18, 20:11
MR.SMITH MR.SMITH is offline
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I signed up for comp sicence and got c++, but thats ok because i already know it, so its like free credits.
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Old 2002-09-19, 20:40
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I start my Computer Science degree on Monday, I am beginning to worry it might not be for me as I seem to be more interested in history recently than computers. I didn�t do that well in my computing A-level scoring very low so I am a little worried whether I will make the grade for degree. I am interested in computers not massively though so I am worried I may lack the interest to put in the effort a four year course will require. Plus failing this degree is not an option it is costing me and my family over ten thousand pounds so there is a lot of pressure to succeed.

Well that had nothing to do with this thread but I am scared okay, have a heart.

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Old 2002-09-21, 02:31
skytzo skytzo is offline
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I do agree in that the computer science course can do nothing else but benefit you in a higher knowledge in how computers work..

it is definatly a start because "hacking" deals with the software or digital aspect of computers as well as the hardware (as in physical connection). now the computer science course i took helped me understand networks a hell of alot more by looking at the physical connections and the topography of networks.. but i do not know if that would be the case in your course. computer science courses may vary depending on the teacher.

either way good luck


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
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Old 2002-09-24, 20:24
Z-BLACK DRAGON Z-BLACK DRAGON is offline
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DUDE NO WAY IT'S PRITTY POINTLESS REALY
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Old 2002-09-24, 22:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Z-BLACK DRAGON:
DUDE NO WAY IT'S PRITTY POINTLESS REALY



1.just like writing in caps.
2.just like your post.
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Old 2002-09-24, 22:55
cense cense is offline
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quote:
DUDE NO WAY IT'S PRITTY POINTLESS REALY


It's obvious you havent even passed grade school (which is disgustingly easy), like you would know anything about computer science.

Almost any course on computers can be helpful, especially ones that teach programming. Its not just that you have to learn how to crack a SAM file to be a hacker, you need more than just a pre-made script. A programming language allows you to develop you own scripts/programs which in turn allow you to do whatever your heart desires... besides getting a girlfriend.
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Old 2002-09-25, 19:35
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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lol, bitches dig low level languages.

"ASM makes me soo wet"
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Old 2002-09-26, 03:07
cense cense is offline
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then there is the old "chicks dig unix" shirt on thinkgeek.com.
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Old 2002-09-26, 08:58
Jadedfool Jadedfool is offline
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Glossing over your technofetish at parties is a damn good trick to learn...
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Old 2002-10-04, 20:46
Viper2002 Viper2002 is offline
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A strange thing today, one of my degree tutors told us to learn to hack but not to get caught to soon. How strange�

All of my degree tutors seem to have somewhat of an admiration towards hackers.

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Old 2002-10-09, 18:58
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Where do you study Viper. Trying to do Computer science at Durham next year. (Well or Exeter).
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Old 2002-10-09, 21:00
fat_boab fat_boab is offline
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I'm studying software development in bonny glasgow, using Pascal and delhpi to code




Anyone know any decent tips for pascal?
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Old 2002-10-10, 03:32
ytinu ytinu is offline
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Don't learn it, its a waste of time; if you want to learn comp sci I'd describe pascal as only fair anyways. If you're interested in network security, learn Java and you'll be able to start building tools pretty quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if an intelligent person couldn't put together a port scanner or even just a raw client at the end of a day, if they started teaching themselves in the morning. The comp sci is cool though. I go to Harvey Mudd and all the material and assignments for CS are online at http://www.cs.hmc.edu/courses/2002/fall/cs5 in case anyone wants to try teaching themselves there. The whole HMCSupport package kicks ass and saves you a shitload of time. Well, have fun with life and if anyone has questions about HMC or anything you all know how to message me.
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Old 2002-10-10, 10:35
lilacfallenangel lilacfallenangel is offline
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Hey, it's not really even that hard to hack, I'm fifteen and even some kids in the year below me have managed to cause our school lots of money in breaking the things! I don't really think that you need to be taught how to hack, it's just from experience and pure knowledge that you get there.
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Old 2002-10-10, 15:40
cense cense is offline
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quote:
Hey, it's not really even that hard to hack


Hacking and running scripts are two DIFFERENT things. If hacking is so easy, tell me how to attack a CBAC (Content Based Access Control) access-list/firewall? If you even know what that is...

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even some kids in the year below me have managed to cause our school lots of money in breaking the things!



Any idiot can break things. I could go and break 3 million dollars worth of equipment that my college owns right now, but thats just bullshit. Breaking things is NOT hacking.

Please, think before you type. People here aren't all stupid, some of us know you are just bullshitting.

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