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Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2002-07-10, 21:53
Satan Clause Satan Clause is offline
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Default Store checkout computers


You know when you go to the store, and you order shit, how people run it through the register? What kind of a computer network is that? is that a LAN network? i've been fooling around with gift cards lately, and thinking that if only i could go online, and somehow be able to break into one of those comptuers that i could activate a bunch of those gift cards, or even add a dollar amount onto one of my existing cards. Once again: money is only in the form of small electric pulses.
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Old 2002-07-11, 00:24
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do you really think that stores would be dumb enough to conect those networks to a WAN such as the internet?
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Old 2002-07-11, 00:31
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yea, thats just stupid, i am sorry.
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Old 2002-07-11, 02:09
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Awwwwww.......dont' cry Zokey
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Old 2002-07-11, 02:10
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Oh sorry, shows how much attention I pay to topics, I thought you were the one who started it ZOk.
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Old 2002-07-11, 02:36
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Oh.
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Old 2002-07-11, 04:49
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Sorry about that. i know that it wouldn't be connected to the internet, but what would it take to get into a kind of network like that?
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Old 2002-07-11, 06:54
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its not worth the trouble, you would need to either find an old computer that is still hooked up to the network which nobody uses, or is in a back room and tucked away (maybe in the basement) or you would need to give yourself access to the network and i am not gonna teach you how to do that. your best bet is to break into an old comptuer which is still on the network as opposed to gaining access from a foriegn computer.
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Old 2002-07-11, 07:56
overRide resSurRection overRide resSurRection is offline
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You could sneak into a backroom and do your thing. and if u get caught, u could always say u were lookin for the bathroom.


ORRRRR.....come to think of it, u can do it anarchist cookbook style.

Loiter around on a weekday sometime before noon, as to make sure not alot of people are in the mall/store. Make sure you have a friend with you who can remember how to do shit after he is shown once.

Add some money to your card, standing directly in front of the cashier. Have your friend in a position where he can clearly see all the cashier is doing.

Say thanx, then act like u are checking out shit.


After a lil bit of checkin out stuff, have your friend say that hes gotta go take a piss. make the the cashier hears him. ask the cashier about some crap, prefferably crap that is in the back of the store and out of sight of the cash register. Have your friend go do what he saw, with one exception: max the bitch out. Make sure he also unplugs or takes off of the hook any phones, and keep the cashier busy at all costs until your friend gets back. Leave, come back a week later, and buy that playstation and the 50 games that "you were saving up for."

This scenario is completely courtesy of overRide. its crazy what a sleep deprived brain can think of. In fact, im going to try this as soon as possible.


Man im cool....hehe
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Old 2002-07-11, 14:26
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quote:
Originally posted by overRide resSurRection:
ORRRRR.....come to think of it, u can do it anarchist cookbook style.


dont bring that shit in here, everybody knows that the anarchists cookbook is the one way not to do things. if anything it tells you the worst way.
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Old 2002-07-11, 19:27
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Well maybe you can find a place that uses totally unsecure wireless... like bestbuy did (and i'm not sure, they still might in some stores) you could access their network from the parking lot.
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Old 2002-07-11, 20:40
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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as far as i know you couldnt send to that network but could easily sniff it for card numbers.
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Old 2002-07-12, 03:08
Satan Clause Satan Clause is offline
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Card numbers are easy. You just walk through the store and peek at the back of the gift cards. Make sure you write down the Card number and the access number. (the access number is the one that you use when you order shit online)

i was wondering about their network because about a week ago i did try ordering online. i had like 40 or so cards numbers. Then i kept calling the balace number to see whether or not they were activated or not. Finally when somebody bought the cards (i had three of them) i went to a public computer and ordered another fourth gift card online and had is sent to my house, along with a nifty note saying "happy summer from your secret admirer..." just in case the shit hit the fan and i could say i didn't know who the hell sent it.

so i waited a week, and sure as hell the card came in the mail. but i went to check the balance and there was nothing on the damn card.

i called guest services and they looked up the card number and said it was bought with cards that hadn't been activated (which was a crock of shit) and i got pissed and hung up.

so either:

A. the person who really did own that card called the number and canceled the order. because the card was in the mail they just drained the account on my fourth card...

or B. someone really screwed up somewhere and didn't get the account even activated.
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Old 2002-07-12, 20:53
overRide resSurRection overRide resSurRection is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Zok:
dont bring that shit in here, everybody knows that the anarchists cookbook is the one way [b]not to do things. if anything it tells you the worst way.[/B]




heh sorry. just using it as a figure of speech. i myself have never even read anything that has come out of it, nor have i heard very much at all how to do stuff thats in there. ive heard people diss on it before, and the fact that it costs like 50 bucks will be the reason i never get it.
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Old 2002-07-12, 22:09
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That bible of stupidity is in ebook form all over the internet for every KeWl to download for free.
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Old 2002-07-12, 22:39
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i heard that there were a couple of different versions published. One of them is so so, and the other one is full of bogus stuff like boiling bleach and shit that will get you killed deader than hell.
 
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