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Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2001-12-22, 01:49
phracktal phracktal is offline
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Default best ISP phor nasty play?

i read once that windows was a bad choice phor OS's if your looking to get into the nastier of things within your scope. my question now is "what is the choice ISP phor those who wanna expand their box?" i wanna know which one is most used bah people who think they know what their doing.(no offence to anyone) its phor mah own learning of course...
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Old 2001-12-22, 20:02
Z3m Z3m is offline
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Default Re: best ISP phor nasty play?

Har
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Old 2001-12-22, 20:49
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nah?
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Old 2001-12-23, 01:07
j0662 j0662 is offline
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Default Re: best ISP phor nasty play?

If you want to sound 31137 you don't have to replace every f with a ph, you just come across as stupid.
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Old 2001-12-23, 07:44
phracktal phracktal is offline
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though the concept of me ever becoming 31337 is amusing, mah typing habits are mah habits "phor" mah own reasons. (none of wich having anything to do with You or anyone else on this board)and as if empressing apon anyone was a goal of mine, You took it as Your duty to try to point out mah "short commings". i think that this board would be better served bah People who have information and or questions than people who just wanna tell others that what their doing is stupid or simbolic of wannabe syndrome.
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Old 2001-12-23, 10:32
Jadedfool Jadedfool is offline
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One belonging to someone else.
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Old 2001-12-23, 12:18
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aaah!
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Old 2001-12-23, 12:35
j0662 j0662 is offline
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Default Re: best ISP phor nasty play?

My point is, if you speak/type properly you will get a much better response, people might actualy take you seriously.

If you want to use an ISP for whatever, i sugest you use a small one from a foriegn country as it will be harder for them to trace it to you using thier records. but IMHO you shouldnt let anyone your get your IP in the first place.
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Old 2001-12-23, 20:41
cense cense is offline
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Default Re: best ISP phor nasty play?

If you are looking for a good ISP to mess around with Linux or UNIX then you are probably best to go looking for an unknown local ISP. Without your location I cant tell you much.

All the main "well-known" ISPs (AOL, @home, etc) are probably not what you are looking for. Stay away from DSL as its all leased out to resellers from the telephone company and they _could_ easily notice your activities.

This is one of those questions that I have to say, go search yourself. Check your local LUG (Linux Users Group) and see what ISP they use.

I cant really give you a concrete answer because I dont believe there is one.



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Old 2001-12-24, 03:49
ytinu ytinu is offline
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Default Re: best ISP phor nasty play?

The only reason I can think of for typing "phor" or "mah" or "bah" is if you're missing an f key or a y key, which you probably aren't seeing as you used them.

Windows is a bad OS for things in general except maybe games, go download BSD. And in terms of your ISP, the smart people just use the fastest and cheapest ISP they can get access too, or maybe with the most features, basically the best value. Theres no such thing as an elite hacker ISP but some are better protected than others. A lot of New York and New Jersey people like GTI because its a pretty good deal, decent uptime, and secure for an ISP. I like Earthlink alot cuz it has really cheap good service, its national, and Apple owns part of it. Right now, though, I use DNAI which is owned by some other company. ISPs really are best dealt with on a regional basis, go to the 2600 website for your state or area and ask around...
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Old 2001-12-24, 05:40
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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if your serious about hacking dont do it from home ever!!!! its too easy to get caught. like everyone else said go with the cheapest thing you can find if you just want to practice using nix. just dont do anything dumb.
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Old 2001-12-24, 13:30
phracktal phracktal is offline
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Default Re: best ISP phor nasty play?

well.......

i appreciate the input and i suppose i should start lookin phor a new isp. ive grown quite tired of AOHell but i use it because its on a phriends comp.(hence free)im lookin to get a new comp soon but i want to use a unix or linux type shell. i recently phound an OS called AtheOS and im curious if anyone knows anything about it. furthermore, does anyone know if i would need a special isp to get all that i can outta it?
 
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