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| Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net. |
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#1
 2001-09-11, 22:27
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Z3m 
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Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
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#2
 2001-09-11, 22:50
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Ding Ding; Round 3
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#3
 2001-09-12, 01:04
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Columbus Ohio
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Where is the TOTSE server located? Because the times that these messages were posted has not occured where I am.
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#4
 2001-09-12, 01:14
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Posts are shown with Greenwich Mean Time, which is about six hours ahead of EST.
Where did you hear about this? I can't find it anywhere.
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#5
 2001-09-12, 10:58
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Wy should they bother in such a thing when the fucking pentagon is on fire... And as said where did u here this??????
And I think it is a real presure on Bush right know. Beacuse the american people wants revenge againts the people ho did this and Bush have to punnish somebody against it or the people would be very disapointed.... If the people are dissapointed they wouldn�t vote on him as the president one more time....
------------------ -=Etichs=- ***********
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#6
 2001-09-12, 12:13
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Pfst, providing bush doesn't totally fuck up, he's guaranteed an extra term..
Z's just predicting the future.. it's almost a sure thing..
Oh, and enigma said once that TOTSE is in the GMT time zone, but not actually in england
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#7
 2001-09-12, 19:48
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Ever see the first episode of the Lone Gunmen?
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#8
 2001-09-12, 20:44
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Wintermute 
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Naw babe, I ain't that much of a geek..
I did hear that within hours yesterday, Carnivore was being installed all over the freakin place
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#9
 2001-09-13, 19:41
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
First episode involved a government plot to electronically hijack a commercial airliner and crash it into the WTC to increase defense spending...
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#10
 2001-09-13, 21:03
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Wintermute 
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
Life imitates art or the other way around...?..
It has occurred to me that now defense spending will be huge as never before.. off the scale, it seems like anyway..
And all the uproar about face recognition technology is unlikely to stop it from being installed in every airport across the country as well as every other major public place..
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#11
 2001-09-13, 21:10
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Spiffy McBang 
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
quote: Originally posted by Wintermute: Life imitates art or the other way around...?..
Hmm. How long ago was the show on? I barely remember hearing about it, much less seeing it. All it shows on the website is the episodes, not when they were shown.
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#12
 2001-09-13, 21:41
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Wintermute 
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
As I said, I never watched it, but I believe the show first aired last year's fall season on fox, ie about a year ago almost exactly.
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#13
 2001-09-14, 00:43
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html
take a look...
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#14
 2001-09-14, 01:45
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
I damn well hope people actually listen to each other..
It talks about making encryptions have backdoors for the government. Nowhere does it say that there would be prohibitions on encryption programs as a whole, only ones not designed with such a back door. While
I'm not terribly fond of the government having free access to anything they want, nor the fact that some people will figure out ways to use those back doors to their advantage. But, I wonder if the verbal battles sure to take place over this will focus on issues like that, or if those on the side of freedom just keep saying, "Don't prohibit encryption!" when that's not the idea- or if the government will make it the idea at some point.
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#15
 2001-09-14, 23:42
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Z3m 
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Re: Hijacked Planes Lead U.S. Senate to Ban Companies from Producing Strong Encryption
The problem is that if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.
Gnome is so macish.
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