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Old 2002-12-14, 06:52
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Default Programming languages.

how come you know that it would suck?
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Old 2002-12-14, 13:39
M0rt M0rt is offline
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Default Re: Programming languages.

Assembler gives u the ultimate power over everything anyway....
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Old 2002-12-14, 22:15
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By the way, the perl compiler i have sucks. Whats a good one to get? Zok?
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Old 2002-12-14, 23:30
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Default Re: Programming languages.

ActivePerl comes with some pretty neat tools.
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Old 2002-12-15, 03:51
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perl is an interpreted language...
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Old 2002-12-15, 07:34
Sagewisher Sagewisher is offline
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Default Re: Programming languages.

what's wrong with Pascal?
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Old 2002-12-15, 19:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Sagewisher:
what's wrong with Pascal?


Like perl it can go the way of object orientation. But nothing is "Wrong" with it. No language is "Wrong". I have just gone through C++ and want something diffrent.
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Old 2002-12-17, 01:37
logical-not logical-not is offline
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Back in the day...

When I first started programming I began with BASIC, don't bother, it sucks... even though you can do some funny stuff really easily... I then moved down the road to C, which is bad-fucking-ass (I don't like C++ that much). I coded on several MUDs for a while, and this was inane, oh well.
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Old 2002-12-17, 04:34
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quote:
Originally posted by logical-not:
I began with BASIC, don't bother, it sucks...


and now what�s wrong with BASIC?

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Old 2002-12-17, 23:17
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quote:
Originally posted by BSK:
and now what�s wrong with BASIC?



It's rather trouble some. Have you ever written a program with a couple thousand lines in it? No fun at all to surf through. Hell if you are looking for 1 particular line. (It is easier on computers, I did mine on my TI-89, but it is still unorganized.)

As for C, once youve learned that, learning C++ will be as easy as learning german after you learn yiddish. Blech. C++ Has lots of advantages over C, including the read ability and works better with windows.
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Old 2002-12-18, 00:02
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Gah! when will people realize that *almost* any language can have a purpose?

Sure, coding 2000 line program in BASIC gets a bit confusing but coding a simple program to read in strings, manipulate them, etc is a complete bitch in C++.

Programming languages can only be compared on a relative basis and should be selected based on the project requirements/goals.

If you need easy string handling go with something like perl. if you need rock solid OOP code go with C++. if you need to build a quick windows GUI go with VB... ad infinium
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Old 2002-12-18, 13:13
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quote:
Originally posted by BSK:
how come you know that it would suck?


Writing in binary would suck because its very time consuming to use.


Why?

To write one letter of code would require alot of ones and zeros.

Example: The letter "a" would be 1000111010

This not accurate but imagine writing turn on, open program, run program, end program, and shut down using such a system.
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Old 2002-12-18, 18:46
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Im in highschool right now, and i signed up for pascal programming class, but they switched the whole class(they put all three programming levels in one class, because the sizes were so small) and we all had to learn VB. VB is easy as hell, and it is fairly powerful. I plan to move on to bigger languages, such as c/c++ but not until i get a bit of a better handle on VB.

As for taking classes, i recoemnd it to anyone. I have had a VB5 book sitting on my shelf since i was in 7th grade(im in 10th now) and i never touched it. It was $40 wasted. I took the VB class and i learned tons of things easily.
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Old 2002-12-18, 22:00
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only if you know the difference between a carry and an overflow flag, you know which programming language is the best.

And everything came out of BASIC, it can�t be that wrong. PureBasic rocks.
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Old 2002-12-18, 22:12
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quote:
Originally posted by BSK:
And everything came out of BASIC, it can�t be that wrong.
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Originally posted by gombowlzombie:
Writing in binary would suck because its very time consuming to use.



Once again, No language is "wrong" as long as you can use it
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