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 #1 
Old 2002-10-12, 21:42
Z3m Z3m is offline
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Default 240 volts

I want to run a 240 volt appliance off of a 110 volt outlet. Is all I need a transformer? What would any drawbacks to that be?
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Old 2002-10-12, 22:01
Chunkmiester Chunkmiester is offline
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240v- thats european voltage. Not sure about Mexican voltage though (you say you are from mexico). If the mexican voltage is 110 volts and thats the standard for your area you should be able to get some sort of transformer for the appliance. I have seen in some countries where the voltage is very low you can get a transformer that plugs into two sockets to run one high voltage appliance. I am not too sure about mexican hardware stores but you could look there for a transformer- due to my lack of mexican knowledge you may want to ask the salesperson for advice.

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Old 2002-10-12, 22:16
XeNobiTe XeNobiTe is offline
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It's 220~230 V in europe. I got hit by that. I also got hit by 380V. It's kinda refreshing.
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Old 2002-10-13, 00:38
cense cense is offline
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It's not the volts you "feel" its the amps (current).
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Old 2002-10-13, 08:17
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the european system is always above the 220 Volts, so it�s 240-245, and newer products are made to work with this higher Voltage, although 220 is still written on it. So just get a european transformer.
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Old 2002-10-13, 14:19
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First, I'm not from Mexico. That was a comment on California... *Zooom*

But there are many step up-down transformers that I can get that CLAIM to run a 240 appliance off of a 110 outlet.

Just wondering if this'll work.
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Old 2002-10-13, 16:23
XeNobiTe XeNobiTe is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by cense:
It's not the volts you "feel" its the amps (current).


That's correct.

U = I x R so
I = U / R so
1 amp = 1 volt / 1 ohm so
Current = 220V / My body's resistance

My body's resistance is a great factor here, and that is diffrent from person to person.

Say for instance that my body has a resistance of 5000 ohms.

So for 1V/5000� = 0.0002A

220V/5000� = 0.044A

380V/5000� = 0.076A




[This message has been edited by XeNobiTe (edited 10-13-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-13, 16:42
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quote:
Originally posted by XeNobiTe:
U = I x R


change it to U=RxI and you get a canton in Suisse. Ahh, the great school and the crappy crips ...

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Old 2002-10-13, 16:49
XeNobiTe XeNobiTe is offline
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Both are right.
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Old 2002-10-14, 04:07
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yes, of course, it�s just the sequence that makes it a crip, go take a look at the map of the Suisse ...
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Old 2002-10-14, 05:18
Z3m Z3m is offline
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Ok, Dr. Science, would I be losing any power running with a transformer?
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Old 2002-10-14, 06:28
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Unless your appliance has a very high current requirement, a transformer will be fine. You will waste some energy, but not an appreciable amount. Drawbacks will be a large box wasting space and giving off heat.
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Old 2002-10-14, 18:48
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watt power. That�s all you loose. So your swedish penis pump wouldn�t make it to a yard ...
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Old 2002-10-15, 05:01
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Here is the info Z3m. I hope it helps.

In order to chose a voltage converter you will first have to figure out how many watts your equipment is. Below there are instructions on how to do so.

Step Down voltage converter: Step down converters are to be used in countries with 200-240 volts. These are countries outside of North America. These converters are to be used with electronic equipment that is 110 volts from North America. These Transformers are available in 100 watts and higher

Step Up/Down Two Way Voltage Converter: Transformer can be used to convert 220-240 volts to 110-120 volts and vice versa. Use electronics of any voltage in any country. These transformers are available in 100 watts and higher.

Step Up/Down Two Way Voltage Converter with Regulator: These converters are the same as Step UP/Down Two way Voltage Converter, and they have a built in Voltage regulator. The regulator is to be used in countries with unstable electricity so the electronics will not get damaged due to unstable voltage supply.


How To Find Voltage And Wattage Ratings On Your Appliance
To determine the correct model voltage converter or heavy duty transformer you need, you must know the voltage and wattage requirements of your appliance. You can find this information listed on the appliance manufacturer's label located on the back or bottom of the appliance or in the specifications section of the appliance owner's manual. The label or manual will show the input voltage (100, 120, 220, 240 written as: 120 volts, 120V, 120 volts AC, or 120VAC), the wattage (100 watts or 100W), or the amperage (0.5 Amps or 0.5A or 500mA).

IMPORTANT NOTE: If only the amperage rating is shown, multiply the input voltage by the amperage rating to find the wattage rating. Volts x Amps = Watts or 110V x 1.5 A = 165W

Cycles - 50 Hz vs. 60 Hz
North American 110-120 volt electricity is generated at 60 Hz. (Cycles) Alternating Current. Most foreign 220-240 volt electricity is generated at 50 Hz. (Cycles) Alternating Current. This difference in cycles may cause the motor in your 60 Hz. North American appliance to operate slightly slower when used on 50 Hz. foreign electricity. This cycle difference will also cause analog clocks and timing circuits that use Alternating Current as a timing base to keep incorrect time. Most modern electronic equipment including battery chargers, computers, printers, stereos, tape and CD players, VCR/DVD players, etc. will not be affected by the difference in cycles. IMPORTANT: Voltage converters and transformers do not convert cycles.



[This message has been edited by Ain (edited 10-15-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-15, 07:10
skalez skalez is offline
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ThetaReactor, I just realised how cool your name is. I bow down to you!
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Old 2002-10-15, 08:34
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Ummm...cool.

[edit]

I'm just curious, though. Why do you think it's cool?

[This message has been edited by ThetaReactor (edited 10-15-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-17, 08:00
skalez skalez is offline
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I'm not entirely sure. But it is. Perhaps it's because theta is a greek letter, and your name means something like a power plant that runs off radioactive reactions of theta, and you are this power plant. I find that quite phish.
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Old 2002-10-19, 10:05
Gnool Gnool is offline
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lol "phish", "I bow down to you!"

Yes I agree "Theta Reactor" is a pretty gnarly name (for the reasons skalez said)
 
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