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#1
 2002-05-20, 04:07
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syphon detonator 
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DNS and NAT ip's
i want to run a web and ftp server from my cable but im not sure how. the issue is that i use a NAT router. this router can place one ip in a dmz for serving. is it possible to purchase a domain name for my server even though it will be within a NAT network? if so how would i go about configuring the server? would i set it to the ip from my cable or to an ip within the NAT network? i have heard that it isnt even possible to get a domain name with a server on a NAT network but im not sure if its true.
one other issue is that my IP is not static, however it is renewed every 9 days. i almost always have it renewed to the same IP. i figured that in the event that it would change i could simply append the DNS info through the company i registered with. is that correct? and is there usually a charge to make changes in DNS entries.
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#2
 2002-05-20, 05:23
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
what about redirecting?
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#3
 2002-05-21, 03:31
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cense 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
Ok syphon here is one solution to your problem:
get a good free subdomain from www.dhs.org. With this service you get yourname.dhs.org or yourname.wox.org. You can change the IP it points to but it does take a day or so to process, depending on when you decide to change it.
Anyways... about the server:
On your router, make a rule that directs any traffic it receives on port 80 to the IP of the server inside your NAT network.
Visually:
Client->ISP->your router->your webserver
Im not sure on how you would implement this rule with a store bought router as ive never played with one. On a linux router for instance, you would just use iptables, but im sure you knew that.
Its basic redirection like BSK said.
-- cEnsE
[This message has been edited by cense (edited 05-21-2002).]
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#4
 2002-05-21, 21:01
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syphon detonator 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
so basicly im screwed. i need to use a store bought router without redirecting capabilities. i wouldnt even consider this thing a router but i use it as a WAP so i cant get rid of it. also i cant use a service like the above mentioned. if i were going to do that i might as well just put my page on geocities and link files directly to my ip addy. the whole point was to get a real dot-com versus some amatuer looking subdomain.
anyway thanks, i have to hope this router will be replaced soon.
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#5
 2002-05-21, 21:34
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Jadedfool 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
once again, I'm willing to sell a 2501 rather cheaply, I came into a couple a while back and I have no use for more than one..
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#6
 2002-05-22, 02:22
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syphon detonator 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
thats cisco right jaded? how many ports will it route to and does it have a built in switch? what are you asking (aproximatly is good). email me if your serious about selling it.
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#7
 2002-05-22, 18:58
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syphon detonator 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
ok nevermind, i found a manual and its way out of my price range but thanks for the offer.
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#8
 2002-05-22, 22:12
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cense 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
i personally think a short subdomain looks way better than some long ass hyphenated top level domain because all the good ones are already taken kinda thing.
Here is a solution to *some* of your problem:
buy a cheap box to use as your router and run linux. It works GREAT for me and im even serving PHP enabled apache off of it, then buy yourself a domain.
There are some kinda costly ways to run top level domains with a dynamic IP address as well. http://www.dynip.com/main/ns/9/Category/1/cur/USD/doc/46
DynIP Pro is an option, but not the greatest. Here is another link with something a bit better: http://www.no-ip.com/services/page/plus
and another: http://www.websvr.net/DynamicHost/Introduce/
As you can see, they are pretty easy to find. But i still suggest the subdomain because its free. Linux router for sure.
-- cEnsE
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#9
 2002-05-23, 00:37
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syphon detonator 
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Re: DNS and NAT ip's
well i couldnt score syphon.net but another decent choice is still available. i was going to buy skatergeek.net or skatergeek.com
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