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#1
 2002-01-22, 21:36
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j0662 
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DNS registration
Is it posible to register a IP/domain name combo to a DNS directly?
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#2
 2002-01-23, 03:45
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soullace 
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Re: DNS registration
I'm not quite sure on how you would go about doing it in reality, but i do know some theory.
At the top of DNS are what are called root servers. They have pointers to all top level servers like: .com, .org, .net, .gov, .ml. These top level servers point down to other name servers in their domain and so on and so forth.
What you need to do is register with the proper name server within the domain you want to register in.
I do not know the process for which this is done because i have never done it. So just go around and search, im sure you will find somewhere that is offering domain name registration.
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#3
 2002-01-23, 18:10
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j0662 
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Re: DNS registration
Yea, i know how to register a domain.
What i want to know is this...
When you enter an address (www.example.com) in to a computer browser address bar, it looks in the HOSTS file on your harddisk, if it cant find an entry, it connects to a DNS (domain name server) and cross checks the address in the database system contained on that DNS. If that database does not contain the listing, the DNS checks with another DNS, and so on untill it either finds an IP for the address or times out. If the DNS does find a IP for the address, it downloads the IP and address into its own database so that it will know it if someone asks in the future.
Would it be posible to upload your Address/IP combonation to a smaller DNS so eventualy it get looked up and copied throughout the system of DNS's, and therefore not having to pay to register the domain?
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#4
 2002-01-23, 23:23
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syphon detonator 
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Re: DNS registration
logicly it seems possible but how much time would that take? my guese would be at least years. last time i checked dns is not all that expensive so i would just pay it. you could always just start your own dns server with a spare box. also your plan would depend a lot upon how long a browser checks untill it times out and quits. what are you going to use your server for?if its comercial then just pay up. if its warez or personal then just use the exact ip.
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#5
 2002-01-23, 23:31
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Wintermute 
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Re: DNS registration
Your understanding of how the system works is flawed.. at least, from my understanding..
When you register a domain, regardless of registrar, it becomes part of the list of registered domains. As part of the information connected with the domain name, you have the listed nameservers for your domain, usually something like NS1.something.net.
That nameserver is operated either by you, or your webhost, regardless, it's THAT that links an ip to a domain name.
The way that your domain is found by a client, such as your browser, is your browser connects to your ISP's version of the list of domain-nameserver information, which then connects you to your host's nameserver, which then points to the ip address or virtual address of your site. This is why it takes 48-72 hours for a domain name to propagate around the net, because different isp's update the list from the domain registrars at different times. I don't see how with your scheme, you'd ever get to be part of the list that the isp's maintain..
Bleh, sorry if this didn't make sense or isn't technically accurate, it's just my verison of how I understand DNS systems to work, from my experience with hosting my own sites for a year or two.
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#6
 2002-01-23, 23:52
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j0662 
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Re: DNS registration
Yea suze you're probably right, i'll look into it more.
syphon, i want to do find out how to do it more for the knowledge than for anything else. I was jus reading about DNS's and i had a thought.
ah wel, ty anyway.
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