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View Poll Results: What do you believe?
The U.S. carried out the attacks. 97 32.88%
The U.S. knew before hand but did not carry out the attacks. 104 35.25%
The U.S. did not know and did not carry out the attacks. 81 27.46%
Other (Please elaborate) 13 4.41%
Voters: 295. You may not vote on this poll

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 #1 
Old 2002-10-06, 19:45
jadiba jadiba is offline
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Default Beware the China foe

Beware the China foe, Everyone screamed IT-IT came from overseas!

Recently I have been finding many shopping links leading outside the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe democratic capitalist countries block.

A growing number of websites based in China and Arabic countries appear to be collecting personal (credit card numbers, phone numbers, names, addresses, . . .) information for questionable transactions for things like �Get Free Grant Money from the US Government�, �HGH course all age related illnesses�, there are others that appear to be more legitimate, but I intentionally avoid shopping outside the �democratic capitalist countries�.

The potential problem appears to be growing? It looks like foreign governments and groups can collect enough information to possibly create enough �Identity Theft (IT)� using �Information Technology (IT)� (sort of DDOS method of shopping) over a week to maybe collapse a few major economies temporarily. This would have great impact on western economies during a �FIRST STRIKE".

Are we prepared? Is this possible? Have our leaders been proactive in discovering a potential IT-IT attack, and providing a good IT-IT defense? I mean our laws and regulations don�t mean a damn thing outside the USA, Europe, . . ..

Now when I shop online I always do an address, phone, Trace-Route and a couple other checks before I buy anything. If I am not sure . . . I go shop at a local B&C business.

WHAT DO Y�ALL THINK? Am I just to paranoid about this situation?

I wish those �slashdot.org� geeks would comment on this kind of topic, because the internet could become much more panic restrictive.

Jadi � Reality is a self induced hallucination.
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Old 2002-10-06, 20:07
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Shhh!

Everybody here is already parinoid about everything , no need to add to the mayhem.
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Old 2002-10-07, 23:11
SATURNROCKETX SATURNROCKETX is offline
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Default Re: Beware the China foe

Yep. When those porn sites say "you get to see this site free forever if you give us your credit card number", your CC number is obviously being cataloged for SOMETHING, and this makes sense. "Age verification" my Aunt Eunice!
Read what Eric Thomson has to say about the Chinese (there is a book he talked about called "Ways That Are Dark" about the Chinese too) at http://www.FAEM.com under Eric's file.

[This message has been edited by SATURNROCKETX (edited 10-07-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-10, 06:32
Gnool Gnool is offline
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It would be totally cool if China ruled the world, so stop your complaining.
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Old 2002-10-10, 21:10
SATURNROCKETX SATURNROCKETX is offline
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The only cool thing about such a world is that you would not exist in it, except perhaps as a male prostitute, which offends my sensibilities.
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Old 2002-10-10, 23:07
-_-OsiriS-_- -_-OsiriS-_- is offline
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If China ruled the world, there would be no freedom of speech, or the Internet.


That would sooo not be cool...I have to kick your ass for just saying that.


/me kicks Gnool's ass.
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Old 2002-10-12, 09:05
Gnool Gnool is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by -_-OsiriS-_-:
If China ruled the world, there would be no freedom of speech, or the Internet.


That would sooo not be cool...I have to kick your ass for just saying that.


/me kicks Gnool's ass.



lol, I was actually hoping for more of a reaction than that, but I'll have to settle for that

Yeah it would suck having no internet.
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Old 2002-10-13, 04:20
gun-nut gun-nut is offline
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china would not rule the world...
if they do, that would be doom day....
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Old 2002-10-16, 21:48
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China is probably the only country - and the only regime - that could take over the (western) world right now. Russia is too weakened at the moment, and countries like Iraq may be dangerous, but not in that sense.

But right now it seems more likely that China will try to "take over" in the same way as Japan did, for a while, not so long ago. Economically. They are already such a huge market that the western world can�t afford to ignore them. Western countries have to do business with China, whether they like it or not, and they have to aknowledge that the chinese government are "normalising" things for their people, even if they (mostly) don�t.

In the not so distant future China�s economy will be strong enough for their government-run companies to repeat what the japanese companies did in the last two decades last century; buy up european and US companies, not to mention that they can take control over even more than what they already control in the so called Third World.

Japan�s economy broke down after the boom, and they lost a lot of what they bought up. But that is not so likely to happen for China, when (rather than if) they start "buying up the western world".

As for the rather separate issue of the Internet. It was probably designed in the first place to monitor us (wich doesn�t contradict the official history about military purposes. They don�t lie, they just don�t tell the whole truth).

It was totally impossible to open and read every letter that was sent in the days when snail-mail ruled. It was equally impossible to monitor all analog, phone communication.
It was totally impossible to check how people used their money in the days of coins and bills...

It IS possible to monitor ALL communication on the Internet, on the modern phone-nets, and in the air - cellphones etc. It is also possible to monitor our use of money, as long as we use credit-cards. Along with the credit-cards and cell-phones there is also a "bonus": as it is possible to see where someone is, everytime he or she uses the card or the cellular...

If we after this return to China, and to what is said above: that if China takes over there�ll be no more Internet. Do you really think they would close down the best equipment in the world when it comes to monitoring people?!

My guess is they wouldn�t...

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