look people, you want a real conspiracy? sept 11. the whole damn thing, noboy's saying it. You know it. all of you, you see it. Osama Bin laden tapes( damn that shit's so fucking fake), missing, conflicting and obviously false info. Cmon here people, prove me wrong.

I'm willing to post a reply but only if you give factual reasons why it could be a conspiracy.

'I think it is' doesn't constitute a conspiracy or the waste of time replying to it.

prove that what you're is true. anything you'll say is less than circumstantial, thus, lacking basis. there's nothing you reveal that will shed a new light on the whole dillema.

There are many documents and much evidence on the subject of organisations, american and others that knew this would happen etc. If you belive these sources is up to you but they are there.

A don't think this is a conspiracy though, more of a lack of a process for different countries intelligence forces co-ordinating anti-terrorist information.

Put it this way, theres nothing concrete but the Sept. 11th incident isn't all they say it is.

We must have done something to piss someone of reeeealy bad in order to get hit with that operation, and I don't think it was just the U.S. interverntion in the middile East, we have been doing that forever and they never did shit until now.

Heres a bright Idea. circumstansial evidence, bah! the fuckin pigs dont even have that, they just make assumptions and attack. Why??

Well ya why! War inspires patriotism. With national pride at an all time low, the government needed a ploy. I cant have concrete evidence, but neither do they, they can just make shit up, run it for days on the 24 hour news channel, and to the masses, its true. Anybody saying its just a hoax will be shot down by people, generally good people, blinded by the fact that 3,00 people are dead, and they already have it stuck in their heads that some elusve charachetr has done it.

This Emanuel Goldstien of our era has only been photographed and made a tape and sent it to the untied states.

No concrete evidence, my friends, I am only aremed withcommon sense. Take a careful look at the photos of this Osama charcter. For one, he looks like hes posing to be p[ut on the 20 dollar bill. For somebody trying to hide, these recent pictures are leaking pretty easily back to the old united states and all. Hes even smiling a pretty smile.
As for his recent vidio release, I dont even have to comment. Once again, for somebody hiding in a cave, he did a pretty good job of confessing to these and other crimes on a clear, well cinematographed vidio and did a great job of mailing it to CNN. Incredibly convinient. Miraculously. The next step in this saga? our forces "find" him and "lose" his body, or burn it or mutialte his bopdy to an unrecognizable point, or something. Convinient. All evidence is circumstancially destroyed, and peace is again in priode swelled conservative, monoist, white christian america.

I dont expect to change you7're minds, they've already made sure that I cant. I bid thee a good day .

you little dumbshit, did it not occur to you that osama has his own ways of demoralizing military and the usa "hey look, I'm on camera, throwing out religious paradigms, and foreseeing the end of the usa, and you can't catch me. but enjoy the video, infidels." You're another dipshit, wiht too much time on your hands, and no common sense. If I was osama, I'd be flunging videos and pictures right and left, just to show how powerless usa military is. As long as people get to see him, it infuriates them more, it's like teasing little kids, showing himself as invincible and elusive.

Man of the mist, If the USA did do this then we want proof. Circumstancial will do.

The US is set to lose more money long term than it has made from this short term. Also Bush is the only president to have been in power since WW2 that has had a direct attack happen on the US. The people wont forget this.

Can't people just accept the fact that maybe there are actually people out there that do hate amarica and want to see the infidels burn in hell.

Yeah right, you dont tease kids with guns. If hes smart enough to pull of a major attack, I think he has SOME sense. You guys are fucking sheep. This goes beyong just money. People spend lots of money and m,ake major sacrifices if they think their country is in danger, its called taking advantage of the stupid television washed masses. I gave you my circumstantial evidence, what the US has to gain, and that the sneaky Capityolists could easily peull\ it off without anybody really questioning it. You guys are just proving my point, I say what I think is going on, and I immediantly hit a wall of people who have never thought about thinking diferent. A beautiful plan if I do say so myself. No justice like mob justice...

I would also like to thank rk Magneto for his semi support.

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Originally posted by sckbch:
prove that what you're is true. anything you'll say is less than circumstantial, thus, lacking basis. there's nothing you reveal that will shed a new light on the whole dillema.

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What would be the point people with credible thought that post get a LOCK hmm! I enjoy the the opinions of all! im sure it makes your conspiracy forum look more like a conspiracy which might be your point! To wich I really do not care.
The world is trully twisted & truth is srtanger than fiction for wich it's mask is born of.
I enjoy the totse's drive not the drivers so lay of the horn a little will ya.

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A closed mind is bred from an empty soul!

What the fuck are you bleating about. I have a more open mind than you ever would.

If someone turned round to me and showed me every reason why they think man didn't land on the moon, or why JFK was assasinated by the russians, or why the reptillians do live amongst us then yeah i'd probably take a look.

But by saying you're all brainwashed does constitute a theory.

It may be a conspiracy set up by the american government, but then again it might not. I consider myself intelligent and until you give me i peice of evidence showing me that you might be right then maybe i'll open my ears some more.

I also know a lot more about the middle east crisis than you. Have you ever been to afghanistan? Have you ever seen a diagram of the Tora Bora caves and others? Have you seen the fanatical hate that some muslims carry against the US?

I doubt it.

So get off your soapbox and return with more ideas.

the second you start thinking you are smarted or more open minded than anyone else, you become the dumbest, most closeminded person of anyone.

why dont you find your own soap box instead of tearing down others'? an I'm pretty sure you haven't seen that shit either. shuttup, you sound like a governmebnt agent, wouldn' doubt it either.

No i haven't seen it, but i know OF it. thats the important thing.

For fucks sake, read this post
http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum8/HTML/000263.html

And then read yours. Now tell me the difference. Krazy matty has got links, something you haven't, to back his ideas up. He has a motive. Something you don't. He even has some kind of evidence.

You have none of these.

If you had written a little bit about the Israeli secret services (if you actually know their name!?!) or a little about the US reports about how they scrambled fighters before anyone else knew there was a highjack or about the information that was passed from british intelligence to the FBI a while back and filed away or any other small paerticle of information then maybe i'd take you seriously.

And if its a big conspiracy, what have the US gained from this? You need a conclusion to your grand master theory on life and the universe.

Your soapbox is pathetic, let me burn it for you.

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Originally posted by ManOfTheMists:
look people, you want a real conspiracy? sept 11. the whole damn thing, noboy's saying it. You know it. all of you, you see it. Osama Bin laden tapes( damn that shit's so fucking fake), missing, conflicting and obviously false info. Cmon here people, prove me wrong.

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Exactly what missing conflicting and obviously fake info??

Are you an expert on faked videotapes? If you are i'd like to see your analysis on the 'fakeness' of the tapes.

If not, i'd like to see some evidence that it is.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by ManOfTheMists:
the second you start thinking you are smarted or more open minded than anyone else, you become the dumbest, most closeminded person of anyone.

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do you actually suggest we shouldn't think that we are smarter, or more open minded than somebody else? if there ever was a conformist message on this board, i think you just got yourself the half-ass subliminal subversive award. bravo, don't fight the urge to step into the traffic.

lol

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Originally posted by ManOfTheMists:
look people, you want a real conspiracy? sept 11. the whole damn thing, noboy's saying it.

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ummm.. correct me if im wrong but almost everyone in the 'Attack on the united states' forum is saying it... it has probably been the biggest topic of coverstation since 7/11... do you ever read this board?

I doubt it, and unlike some people in other forums he doesn't know anything about the so called conspiracy hes uncovered.

he's just one of those people that barely look at the headlines in the newspaper, without reading an actual article. example:

FORD EXPLORER EXPLODES when a lit match is dropped in to the gas tank.

he only reads the bold-lettered part. that way, there's many more conspiracies to be uncovered in the sunday paper.

lol

....and then when he goes to tell his friends in the pub/bar he makes up the small print to impress them with his immaginary knowledge.