As rage had posted.... their is a world out there which most of the people see everyday.. you see the stuggle but not the cause.. have you been to school lately? have you seen why these things happen? society is like any drug.. it hampers the mind and clouds thought processes. fight club is a good example of you want to explain america.. 1984 by george orwell goes more in depth. all america is today is just a clouded nazi party... the holocaust here isnt of jews or of any special person but to those that can think.. its a genocide of the mind. no one controls this except themselves.. no high goverment official knows this no one does but the few that live within it like me and whoever else... its a comfort like all drugs and what not.. society is comfort, comfort for those who wish not to look at themselves. you dont need society to live you can move to an island and be perfectly self sustainable... if you want to change the world you are going to have to make people look at themselves. they wont listen to you if you tell them that people die because society is a drug.. no one is in control but you. animals go for pleasure and never for pain if you want to be "Enlightened" look at your self and face the pain, face the pain that there is no answer and you will see all that society can not. and because of fear society was created by the people for them to help them deal with thought of looking at themselves. the corprate world or miracles or scientific advance will get you no where.. when you go to school you see the idiots in there trends of a comercial society they where the swastica cause it makes them feel needed to a group or sect.. i have seen this world and i know why it exists... the only question is to care if it changes.. cause when i go to school i see no hope for their world but death and lifelessness. being an animal and being lazy is what got this world where it is today.. there is no one person to blame its people and if you see YOU arent people now are you? to think of how to begin changing this world is laughable. enlighten some people and maybe a new spark of hope will emerge.. if you want to go up you must go all the way down to that place where it hurts and when you are content you will see more than you thought... if you dont want pain than thats your choice but dont go blaming other people because your moms lifes sucks or because you have a job... your in control of your own life remeber? no one can tell you who you are or what the answers are... hey what do i know? you judge for yourself on what is truth and what is a lie? the only truth is... is that there is no truth and that truth is the truth you belive to be true cause you believe in yourself... i encourage you individuals to read Anthem by Ayn Rand and 1984 by George Orwell... the choice is yours its your life you do what you want

i thought so

..you thought what... right. I suddenly felt like you were brainwashing me, but the feeling quickley subsided and I accepted what you were saying and I liked and I kept on going... everyone's taking of change... everyone's talking of society and it's break down. Take Papa Roaches song "No Obsession"... not 'cause I'm listening to it right now,,, but 'cause the lyrics ring home a little truth.. "There's no money, there's possessions, only obsession...." Well, we can all talk of change... which I can only almost mostly agree that we have to suck it up, in a sense. But I agree, as much as another can to words that aren't his(as in mine). But the certain people in the world are living better than people as a whole have for, like, ever. And I don't think they want to change. So it will take the end... to realize it all. Like it takes death to realize life.... inevitability... and maybe your own contradiction of fate (so I coin the phrase). I'm gonna go read your post above this one... something like "The End of the World"... sounds of interest... wait. After all, the consequence of a beginning is an end.

Fuck sakes.. dont quote songs you sheep. Think for yourselves. The world isnt gonna end until your creator says so. now just sit back and watch all the bullshit in the meantime

i thought that.... no one would reply cause i thought no one gave a shit either way or didnt know what i was talking about... not an outward statment i guess...

Sheep, White Witch, your sounding more and more like someone I really didn't want to know. Yeah, that's suppose to be an insult. Quote song... I'll see symbolism in the way I choose to... as that which you may ignore. Think for myself. I'm stupefied by you comment. We're not all conspiracy theorists that believe the worlds gonna end... and we ain't all religious... see where I'm headed. Fuck you. 'Cause with everything else that's what I have to resort to... and now back to the point of this thread...........