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| Bad Ideas Fraud, vandalism, torture, theft, revenge, scams, and other bad ideas. Please do a forum search and site search before posting. Questions about explosives, drugs, weapons, and hacking do not belong in this forum. Please keep things theoretical in nature. Do not admit to crimes you have done or are planning to do. |
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#1
 2002-07-28, 02:38
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Don Rit 
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Read this: Scams $$$
Ok, we need more posts on quick scams, and I'm sick of the rob a bank, beat the hell out of an old lady and take her money shit Im talkin about real scams, not dumbass acts of stupidity. Does anyone know where there is more info on this, or other sites?
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#2
 2002-07-28, 02:40
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Nox 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
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#3
 2002-07-28, 06:42
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
Holy shit, what do you want, somehting thatll make a million dollars a day with no effort? Call 100 people and ask them to donate $100 to the 'Make a Wish Foundation' and be entered to win a Mercedese Benz. Give them a PO box address, and wait for cahs. There. Youll be lucky to get oen response all night but go ahead.
Want a real scam? Think about skills you have or can obtain... I myself am trying to learn how to pick locks, and am working on a set. Do soemthing like that. Im also continueing on testing my ability (throw a jacket over a chair) to pick pocket. Helps work on speed. Do things like that. Develope random skills, that may seem simple and minor at first, and then find someone who needs them. For example, some 16 year old wants to buy beer. So, you steal some guys wallet, who kkinda looks like the kid, ands not to old, sell his liscense for $50, and keep the cash. Boom, no doubt you could have made from $50-$200 [thats on average, he could always have more in his wallet] in an hour. Just go downtown and find a group of kids, ask which opne wants a fake ID for $50. Tell em to wait 20 minutes, steal the wallet, and youre done. Obviously itll take time to work on the pickpocketing skills, but nothign comesinstantly!
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#4
 2002-07-28, 09:08
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quandary 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
please... why so many posts new guy... just stop it..
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#5
 2002-07-28, 16:29
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braindog 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
Idea I've always pondered but never tried. Hope the new guy's not a cop!
1) Scope out a major hotel in the downtown district of a busy metropolitan city. It must have several stories, six or seven at least. If you are in a big city, you should have an ample choice. Try to choose one that has upper-middle-class clientel. Not insanely rich, too much secrutiy. But not too scumy, no money to be made. Ok, now days or weeks before the big event, go in and check out the place good. GO under the guise of visiting a friend or buy some flowers and ride the elevator up to the top floor, leave the flowers outside a room with a vague 'I love you' card attached and just leave. The purpose is not to deliver flowers but merely to get a feel for the place.
2) All you'll need are two items. A high power stungun, and a believalbe disguise. Dress up like a big ol' nobody. Pizza guy, delivery man, repair man, waiter(most hotels like that have restuarants and room service), etc. Keep your hair short. If you have a mustache, keep it nice and trimmed. Where a hat of some kind! (I'll explain that in a moment) The purpose here is to be highly forgettable. You want someone to look at you then immediately look away, disregarding you as just a normal Joe. If you have to interact with anyone, be polite, but pithy. Don't offer extrainous information. "Hey, I'm just here delivering pizza to room 502." What if the person you're talking to just happens to be in room 502? You get the point.
3) Pick a high traffic time. Eight o'clock on a Friday night...EXCELLENT! Especially if they have a convention going on! It's utter chaos. Calmly walk right through the front door. Don't make eye contact. Walk casually, but with intent. YOu are there to to a specific job, for a specific reason. Go directly to the elevator. Get on and pick a random floor. Now, most elevators have security cams, but they're shitty black n' white cams that point downward, remember.. you're wearing a hat. Ride the evelator up and down. First go all the way to the top, that way everybody that needs to get off has gotten off. Then ride it back down. Act lost. You're just a lowly delivery boy/girl trying to find a room, no harm done.
4) The point of all of this, which will probably come off as anti-climatic because I've bantered on for four hours, is this: You want to wait for a one person to be alone on the elevator with you. A mark. Someone who's got some dough and some plastic to boot. You'll be standing at the back of the elevator, they'll get on and stand beside or in front of you. In front is better. Zap the fucker good with the stungun. IF you're behind him and the camera is pointing downward, towards you, it won't pick up the subtle attack (that is, if you do it subtly!) Don't look at the poor bastard. Look straight ahead. Silently slip the stungun out of your pocket and zap the fucker, plain and simple. You'll have only seconds before the doors open again. Pocket the gun, act like you're trying to bring him to and pocket his wallet, all while you lean over the victim (camera's probably won't pick this up). Act VERY concerned. When the doors open, look up at the people in utter shock and say in a panicked voice (but don't yell!) "Quick! This man just passed out! Someone watch him! I'm going to go dail 911!" Stand up, and walk briskly out of the elevator. If you're not in the lobby, find the stairway door and take the stairs down (good thing to find out when you go to scope the place out).
5) Walk calmly but briskly out of the front door. You're a pizza man, you got other deliveries to make. Walk around the corner to a parked car, or jump in a cab, or jump on a bus. The point is, leave quickly and quietly.
With any luck you will be miles away and would have already sold the stolen credit cards before anyone is any the wiser. People on vacation carry lots o' dough. The black n' white security cams are going to pick up the image of an average looking guy with no redeeming features to pinpoint him. Wait two weeks and try another hotel, although I wouldn't try this more than two or three times in the same city, that's just begging to be caught. Hell, go to another city and pull the same scam all over again.
**The only down side I've thought up is this: What if the fucker you zap has a heart condition? You just turned armed robbery into murder one! Oh, well...thems the prices the dishonest pay I guess.
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#6
 2002-07-28, 18:45
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rlpinca 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
Decent idea except for one thing. Stun guns don't knock people out. They hurt like a mother fucker,but they'd still be able to let other people know what happened if someone was on the floor where the elevator stopped.
I had a friend that would pick up hookers, take them to their deserted spot. He'd fuck her then while she was getting dressed, he'd hit her with pepper spray or a stun gun and take her money and boot her ass out of the car. Hookers usually won't call the cops because they have warrants, drugs, or just want to get back to work without being lectured. He made a decent amount of money like that.
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#7
 2002-07-29, 10:45
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Droogian 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
No offence but that idea about the hotel was shithouse. Not only is your face available for the cops to see, but after all that you get a couple of hundred? Fuck, you could get assult. It's much easier and a better idea to just find some fancy, cappacino, gucci mother fucker off the street and roll him with a gun or knife.
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#8
 2002-07-29, 12:57
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braindog 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
quote: Originally posted by Droogian: No offence but that idea about the hotel was shithouse. Not only is your face available for the cops to see, but after all that you get a couple of hundred? Fuck, you could get assult. It's much easier and a better idea to just find some fancy, cappacino, gucci mother fucker off the street and roll him with a gun or knife.
no offenSe taken. the idea has it's flaws, which is why i've never tried it. but stunning observation on your part. truly stunning. although...couldn't you get assAult by rolling someone cappUcCino motherfucker with a gun or knife? you're probably more likely to hurt someone with a weapon such as those. just a thought. no offenSe.
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#9
 2002-07-29, 14:24
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rlpinca 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
How about cleaning out recycling bins? Here we have a few at a park that are about the size of a regular dumpster. I know a guy that goes there every few days and gets about a hundred pounds of cans in about 30 minutes. Granted that only gets you about $30 but he goes to several of them a week and grows a little bit of weed. He makes around $200 a week and doesn't have to do any real work. He's happy being a bum and really doesn't want anything else.
Something else you could do is break into auto shops. They rarely have alarms and usually have expensive ass tools. For example, 1/2" Snap On Impact Wrench $400-$600 new, you can sell it for $150 easy. A Snap On or Mac socket set can sell for $50-$200. Just take your stuff to an few out of town shops and tell the mechanics that you're moving and need to sell your tools. I've bought a few tools like this that I knew were stolen. Good tools are expensive as hell.
If you steal something, don't try to sell your shit at a pawn shop in the same town. Pawn shops usually have to turn a report into the cops every day giving detailed descriptions of what they bought.
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#10
 2002-07-29, 19:34
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I Love Poop 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
quote: Idea I've always pondered but never tried. Hope the new guy's not a cop!
Braindog judging by your "rubberband and paperclip" post in weapons and combat you wouldn't know if your own mother was a cop and shaking you down.
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#11
 2002-07-29, 20:19
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Don Rit 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
at least i got one on my side, thanks uh i love poop
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#12
 2002-07-29, 21:10
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braindog 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
quote: Originally posted by I Love Poop: [b]Braindog judging by your "rubberband and paperclip" post in weapons and combat you wouldn't know if your own mother was a cop and shaking you down.[/B]
Hey now! That was an awesome post! I stand steadfast by my claim of the lethality of the "rubberband and paperclip"! If one does not understand my evil genius, I can sympathize. Be on the lookout for my future post detailing the construction of the highly deadly "origami ninja star"! By the way, I know for a fact my mother isn't a cop! She's a full time crack whore I'll have you know! ***puts pinky finger to bottom lip and laughs maniacly*** BWAHAHAHA! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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#13
 2002-07-30, 12:00
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Renegade 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
Ok heres one.
Say you bought a video "Rambo First Blood" and you liked the movie but you would of liked it more if you got it for free ? Well keep the video back home but go back to the shop with the reciept, pick another copy up of rambo and go to the counter. Say you would like a refund on this as your mom has already bought it for your fathers birthday.
Hoefully all being well they will refund your money and you have some money in your pocket and the video ready to be watched again back home.
I havent tried this baring in mind but in theory it should work.
I do this with cans of coke and food and stuff at shopping stores. They refund straightaway,
Peace Renegade,
P.S. if you want it to be cheaper find the reciepts on the shop floors etc.
[This message has been edited by Renegade (edited 07-30-2002).]
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#14
 2002-07-31, 03:27
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6C 
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Re: Read this: Scams $$$
Gang Bangers sell porn filled CDs for me at parties for $15. CD includes Snoop Doggs Doggy Style Pam and Tommy Lost Footage Pam and Bret Michaels secret tape
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