I often play mental games of how to commit the perfect crime, This is the result I came up with for robbery. There are three portions of this crime.

First create a marketing questionare; put thirty interest questions on it, IE are you interested in sports ect. Make sure to put two specific items on it computers and guns/hunting. Say that filling out this qustionare will enter you into a drawing for a free vacation. Say a vegas vacation or a whitewater rafting trip, also ask in the questionare the size of the family if there is one.

When You know which houses without children contain computer equipment and weaponry send those people notification that they have won send them the vacation packages. that way you know when they will be out of the house.

Report a fictisious robbery to the police to determine the code used to report a burglary in progress, it'll be the one they say is occuring at said location.

use a glass cutter to remove a window on the ground floor if the house has a security system remove the glass and remove the valuables, guns/computers, through the window, if there is no security system take the goods out the door carry a police scanner if you here a report of a burglary in progress in the area run like chichen shit.

remember when responding to a burglary they don't use a siren.

there you have it the hypotheticly perfect crime.

Hey pretty cool not a bad idea. You thought it out pretty well. But I think instead of actually giving them tickets to a vacation just say something like you won the tickets pelase come over here to pick them up. Give them like a good 15 miles away location. That way you get to have more money left over. And that way you dont need any money at all to perform it. Because what if they dont have alot of computers? Then you end up paying alot for their tickets. But not bad. Also I have a system in my house. And one day it didnt work so the cops came over. You were right they come without a siren. There were 2 guys and a german shepard dog. So watch out for the dogs. Because they are trained to sniff you out. But I think if you get that perfume stuff that animals have an instinct to be attracted to then the dog will jut go towardsi it and chase nothing else.

Once A guy sold an expensive car and the guys that paid him sprayed the money with it. So when the guy went home he hid the money in his house. Later when he left the guys that bough the car borke in and brough some homeless cat with them. The cat automaticly went straight to the money so they didnt have to search for it since the cat followed the smell. So they got the car and their money back. Just giving you more ideas for a perfect crime.

And another one I saw this in a movie. These guys were robbing a bank and they had like 40 people on the floor. They were wearing like ski masks and black suits. As soon as they got the money they shoved it in their clothes. Next they took a brief case with a bomb in it and said to everyone there is a bomb in here which will explode in 10 seconds everybody run. So the crowd got wild and everybody started running out. At the same time they took off their ski masks and their black suits and ran out like the rest of the crowd. Because they were dressed normal then and everybody was panicing too much while running so nobody cared about them. So all the cops saw was like 50 people running out like crazy and the building exploding. The crooks got in a van and drove away. Neat and a perfect crime huh?

Instead of holiday tickets, maybe spend a lot less money on a meal for the family. If you ask them for a suitable date so you can book it, you will know when they will be out.

As for the mind games, i do that a lot, but with murdering people. I always spend so much time on the little things work seems to go so fast. It always gets down to, what gloves would i use, where would i buy them, with cash?, myself or a friend?

You can like spend a week just thinking about how to buy/dispose of the gloves/weapon.

I dont know if you know how much vagas vacations cost, hell the practicaly give them away. As for rafting, It seems like that would be an activity for an outdoors person. and an outdoor person who has An intrest in guns would have a number of weapons, and at black market prices the expenditures would out weigh the costs. Also the timeframe of a weekend trip is superior, aside from the added bonus of it being less resistable. If their is a chance to win a free dinner you probably wouldn't risk the junk mail that that kind of a survey would entail.

So whats your comment about all my good ideas i posted? the last one is a perfect crime. But that would be cool then that person would have guns and you could take them too. plus guns are expensive. but rember just tell them to pick up the tickets like 15 miles away and then do it, that idea doesnt require any money input.

Your Idea gives a shorter time frame, Considering that this is to be done to a number of houses, about 20, in one city in one weekend this is not a good Idea. Its also suspicious that you aren't able to mail them the tickets. Southwest airlines sells tickets to las vagas for like $50 one way Or is it $79 round trip, any way its absurdly cheap, the casinos subsidise it. On second thought nix the rafting and Computers should be left out of it, pawn shops require Id, The guns can be sold on the black market for more than legal guns. about the cost at worst the profit is 8,000 at best the profit is 194,000 depending on the amount and kinds of arms, the true amount live in the happy area in the middle.

The cat Idea might work on someone who had never heard of a bank.

The police detain people at crime scenes for questioning, Furthermore all they would need to do even if the robbers had disabled the camera would be to compare the people at the crime scene to those on the security video. those not in the video would be suspects. Even if they didn't detain every one at the scene there are enough cameras at the scene to record every one comming out. Beyond that if there were audio recording at the scene the sound of a persons voice can give an acurate picture of what the face looks like coupled with the fact that Eye color is visable give a pretty good picture of the face if the first and second options are not pursued.

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Southwest airlines sells tickets to las vagas for like $50 one way Or is it $79 round trip, any way its absurdly cheap, the casinos subsidise it.

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Never been to america, but if the tickets are cheap then it is a much better idea as you'll get them out for a whole weekend.

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The cat Idea might work on someone who had never heard of a bank.

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Or a safe!

Well i know the cat idea is stupid but i was just telling a story related how to get the dogs to not chase you. But the bank they shot all the cameras. And there was like 50 people running like crazy out of the bank in all directions what could the police do? everybody was just running so there ya go.

still with news and police cameras every one comming out of the building would have been photograped. There still screwed twice. The best bank robbery would be to use makup to totaly change your apperance walk in hand the teller a slip that says you have a bomb which you will detonate if police arrive and instructs them to transfer funds into a caymen Islands bank account which a man on the outside on a computer will send it around a large number of times so its lost track of. then walk out to a waiting cab go to a motel room rented previously with cash under an assumed name while in costume. change costumes take off the elevator shoes and put them in a suit case. hail a different cab head home.

well thats the best crime true but we had a guy in our town do that with a gun instead of bomb without makeup and just ask for alot of cahs like all they had and he did it to like 10 banks and never got caught. not bad.

Wow what a perfect crime Alan Smithe.I really cant believe how good your extremly hard core plan is.U send them on a holiday and break in and steal their television or their 386dx computer.Now that is the perfect crime Alan,so long as you dont drop the T.V when you peddle away in to the sunset on your push bike. QUOTE


use a glass cutter to remove a window on the ground floor if the house has a security system remove the glass and remove the valuables, guns/computers, through the window


Well great sherlock holmes how do u know the room hasnt got a PIR? Sorry Alan Smithe your dumb and dont know what that is huh!! Its a Passive Infa-red Detector!
I can see it now.. Alan sends occupants on a vacation,goes to house,dog barks, Alan Smithe shits his pants and runs like a little girl,gets a flat tyre on his push bike on the way home and sulks to his mommy!!


THE PERFECT CRIME BY ALAN SMITHE

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youre just pissed cause I said you have small testicles and you should be chemicly castrated, its still true though.

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Hey guy he had a good idea and he's not dumb so don't say he is. He is just apparently unlearned as far as home security devices go and theif trackin skills that cops use or maybe he was just stoned out of his mind when he wrote that but regardless it was still a good idea. Oh by the way alan uhm what about the hair that you leave behind and all the other possible D.N.A. trails like blood and skin and the motion detecters well just about everything. BUt keep thinkin guy thinkin is good for you yea!

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I like pot, and am I'm hungry guy.

I'm sure if you dropped a glove and put some snuff on top of it, a police dog would have a time following anything.

mace the dog, and only procede if you dont see an alarm permit, break in however the hell you want without making a commotion.

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BINGO Alan...now what ever gave you that idea. Unprovoked childish retorts normally do get me a little offside. Where on TOTSE have i directed a personal remark towards you? If you have a great idea or need advice im behind you %100..if i havnt liked what you post in the past do you see my name in the replies commenting on your genitals and the outcome of your fatherhood!!!! NO...

cal, about dna evidence change in the bathtub pour bleach in it and rinse thouroghly, shave your head bald before hand, wear a wig. burn the wig along with the rest of the costumes, and rent the room under the costume you leave the room with. If youre really paranoid about the hair thing though get some from a barber shop and put some of it around the room to leave a false trail. I thought about most of the contingencies but didn't think them worth mentioning.


By the way, idiot, bang, I already scrapped computers if you would have read the posts instead of just looking for a grounds to malign me.


if there are detials I have not included it is out of brevity.

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I dont have to malign you Alan.You do a great job of it yourself every time you post. Anyone here ever broken in to a house and shaved their head bald?,worn a wig?sprinkled hair around the floor?,washed the bath tub with bleach? worn costumes?...

What the fuck!!! is this a fancy dress house cleaning party or something...HAHA sorry i thought it was supposed to be a break n enter

And as for the best bank robbery idea do you really think that the teller wont hit the silent panic alarm? And do you think that after the 5-10 minutes it takes them to do the electronic funds transfer you will casually walk out without getting your ass pumped full of lead?? This is real life,not the movies or some drug induced childish delusion!!!

Well actually you ask for money not transfer, and you write on a pice of paper that you will kill her if she presses the silent panic button, always keep watch of the hands. and act like a regular customer. Tell the teller you will blow up her house if she sets off the alarm when you leave. Well this isnt a stupid idea because a guy in my town did that to like 10 banks and got away.

bbb, If a teller hits a silent alarm on someone who says they have a bomb they are a fucking idiot, much like yourself.

obscure, I said a transfer because you dont need to carry off money which is suspicious.

oh and by the way bbb, the costume refers to the bank you dumb ass motherfucker. Can we say forensic science? I know its multi syllabic, that might make it a challenge for you, but if they find your hair it can be linked to you by dna and simple analysis.

Do you think that when a bank gets robbed that they get every piece of hair off the carpet,theres probably thousands of hair folicles belonging to hundreds of people... HAHA i can see it now...police spend 2 weeks on hands and knee locating thousands of hair samples then scratching their anus and saying fuck me which one belongs to the robber...Sorry but they dont do it, they will however take DNA samples from blood if you cut yourself... The costume thing well obviosly yes its a great idea!!

you'd be surprised how many people have been caught by their hair, Roughing up the bed and planting some on the bed would send them on a false lead.

Actually sending them on the vacation costs money, and provides more ways for people to find out who you are.

For instance, the police will notice that 20 houses were robbed on X date, and all people were away on a free vacation.

An alternate version that has worked for me.

Go dumpster diving behind a travel agency. Many of the local ones, or even big ones will have some information that is useful. I got a large stack of carbon copies of receipts that showed the person's name, address, credit card number, dates of travel, etc.

Now, if there is 4 names listed (father, mother, children) then you know the whole family is going. That house is safe to break into. If it's just one or two people, do some research. Watch their house to see if they have kids, or do what I do. Log into http://www.publicdata.com.ai and use their databases to see if you can tell if they have kids, etc.

Show up the day after they leave. Use a garage door opener hacked with a 555 timer chip. This will allow the garage door opener to scan through every possible code. Pull into the garage, and look around.

Most garages are NOT set up with security systems. But, if the house is setup, then there will be an alarm control panel in the garage, or just inside the door. What you have to do is open the door, and find the alarm box. It's usually located in a closet on the first floor. Find it within one minute and rip all the wires you an see from it. Then break it open and disconnect the battery. To gain more time, disconnect the phone lines from the house outside the house in the telco access box.

Anyways, once you're in, you're just fine. Load all the belongings you want into your van in the garage (nobody can see it cause it's inside). A plus is that you can, the day or two days before, order expensive electronics to the house (laptops, etc) using the credit card number on the receipt. Since credit card companies don't blink on any orders going to the billing address, it'll show up. Just hang out for a while until the door bell rings. Sign for the package (fake signature unless you are stupid) and try to not touch the paper, or use the side of your hand on the paper when signing. Then load up in the van and leave.

This is a pretty safe job.

Cautions:
Neighbors who are aware of the trip. -- Risk

Someone who is coming to water plants or feed cat or dog
-- Will probably not show up day after they leave, or day they leave

Just to let you know, I don't approve of stealing from individuals. I say, pik businesses and corporations and the govt. Any company with a dept made for dealing with theft is large enough to steal from.

Best of luck

Yeah but you should still do the survey and offer a prize to the people that are leaving.