there is a safe in a certain building that me and probably one more person will try and get into one day this week. the only problem is that the safe is really a door connected to a room. the door itself is made of solid steel. there is also a dial and a handle. is it possible to get in this safe. hell if someone gave me some good info on getting in, i wouldnt mind sending you a couple g's for you r help. thanx in advance

look for info on cracking safe's or lock combinations...there is tunz of info

does totse have all the info i need? or is there someone else i oculd go that could help me more

hmm. im pretty new here, but ever think about usin thermite? how thick is the steel door?

the door is about as thick as 2X4. where can i get some thermite? or what is a simple way to make some

[This message has been edited by thetruth1983 (edited 06-24-2001).]

this safe sounds more like a vault to me the deal with vaults is they make the doors out of steel but the walls around the room are most likely made of sheet rock and wood try going through the wall first . if how ever built the vault did it right then the walls will be lined in steel to but a lot of people do not do this because it cost to much to build. check that out first if you cant get in that way I will need a little more info on the door.

(o ya any thing is possible)

well, if this is a bank safe or another safe then it will probibly have a time lock on it so i *think* that trying to figure out the combo is useless. if there is a lot of valuable things inside then the safe may have a silent alarm so you might want to disable a phone line tower and maybe a power one too. thermite might not work too quickly as you would be putting it on a vertical surface, but i know nothing of thermite so thats just my theory. you might be able to burn through it with a torch, which i can't remember the specific name but i am sure someone will say it. this will take time and will light up the room and the windows as well. maybe a distraction on the other side of town would aid in your theft. *beware* i have heard of certain safes that will spray CN (tear) gas if a breakin attempt is noticed. i will need to know more about it if you want more help. as for the money you promised you may send it to me in my offshore escrow account.

tell us all how it goes if you do do it. i am inerested in knowing.

*note* the above information is for educational purposes only. i will not take responsibilities for anyone who decides to use this information in illigal activities. after all i was not holding a gun to his/her head when he/she whas reading this now was i?

check this out. i dont know the make/model of the safe but i know that the church was built in 1947 and the safes were built along with it. the safe/vault is the size of a door, looks very old but was recently painted white, and has a lever and dial where a door know would be. the door is made of steel but the door facing is made of wood. i am positive that the safe doesnt have an alarm or will shoot tear gas and it doesnt matter if the room is lit because it is enclosed from the outside. we want to be in and out within 20 minutes. any more helpwould be useful. also, what kind of torch do you mean?

If it is in a church you might try hiding a small trasmitting video camera, probably in the ceiling and off to the side of where a person might stand. You would have to sneak in to place it and make sure you could see the dial well enough to make out the combo. This is a smarter way because it is way less obvious and therefore a safer way. (no pun intended)

If this way isn't practical for what you have in mind, I would definately go through a wall...it will probably be concrete and rebar, but you can do it. Drill a lot of holes through the concrete using a masonry bit in a rotary hammer drill (you can probably rent at Home Depot) and go at it with a sledge hammer. if you come across any rebar you can burn through it with an oxy-accetaline torch. This takes some equipment and might take you a little longer that 20 minutes, but I think it is your best(fastest) bet.

-oh and I'll settle for $1500...just let me know when your done...

where can i buy a very small camera that would be right for the job?

try spyshop.com i think they have some good cams. you will have to get a pretty good cam considering you have to be able to read the combo from a distance. and man stealing from a church is low. what if there is a god? then your screwed. good luck!