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| Bad Ideas Fraud, vandalism, torture, theft, revenge, scams, and other bad ideas. Please do a forum search and site search before posting. Questions about explosives, drugs, weapons, and hacking do not belong in this forum. Please keep things theoretical in nature. Do not admit to crimes you have done or are planning to do. |
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#1
 2001-05-10, 00:56
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loke4 
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Polygraph question????
Is it possible to lie on a polygraph test and still pass it? If so, how should I prepare for it?
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#2
 2001-05-10, 08:05
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Spiffy McBang 
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Re: Polygraph question????
Convince yourself that everything you're saying is the truth.
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#3
 2001-05-10, 15:44
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Neo Nemesis 
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Re: Polygraph question????
SPIFFY IS A GENIOUS THAT IS SO TRUE if you convince yourself that the cold isnt cold, you wont be cold;if you convince yourself that you didnt know that you were commiting fraud and you were just doing a friend a favor, you can get off just believe what you say.
------------------ Crime is an Art and a science
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#4
 2001-05-13, 03:23
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Re: Polygraph question????
Ya, Preppy is right.
------------------ You're in a laundry room, You're in a laundry room, the clue just came to you? Oh.
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#5
 2001-05-13, 07:07
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White Witch 
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Re: Polygraph question????
quote: Originally posted by Neo Nemesis: SPIFFY IS A GENIOUS THAT IS SO TRUE if you convince yourself that the cold isnt cold, you wont be cold;if you convince yourself that you didnt know that you were commiting fraud and you were just doing a friend a favor, you can get off just believe what you say.
do how would i explain the tremoring and hypothermia?
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#6
 2001-05-13, 19:52
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othium 
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Re: Polygraph question????
they ask you a seriose of about 10 quistions over and over, they even tell you what quistions there going to ask.
they just ask the quistions in a different order.
even if you manage to calm yourself down so it seems that you are telling the truth when they ask the few quistions that you are trying to lie about you often get a little scare *what if they find out* and that will make it come out positive for lieing.
so a never tried way of getting by the test would be act freaked out and fail every single quistion.
they would have no choice but to call it unusable evidence.
plus a lie detector test is unuesable ni court anyway.
------------------ cogito, ergo sum
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#7
 2001-05-14, 16:11
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Re: Polygraph question????
It's much more easier to take a few of CNS depressants, any kind. Neural response will be diverted, therefore much slower, thus making polygraph results inconclusive.
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#8
 2001-05-14, 16:29
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Neo Nemesis 
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Re: Polygraph question????
well if you believe that what your sayin is true then you wont be trembling and it wont matter how they word it if you dont have the fear of getting caught its all the art of bullshitting
------------------ Crime is an Art and a science
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#9
 2001-05-14, 16:33
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Re: Polygraph question????
yea, but the thing is you ACTUALLY have to really believe it. You can't just say, yea it's cold. You really have to convince yourself and believe it. When they ask the questions, your first reaction is what it picks up, so if you hesitate and get nervous, that's a lie, but if it's your first instinct and reaction to say it's cold, you're covered.
------------------ ...ever since, I've been The Champ.
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#10
 2001-05-14, 19:49
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Spiffy McBang 
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Re: Polygraph question????
quote: Originally posted by sckbch: It's much more easier to take a few of CNS depressants, any kind. Neural response will be diverted, therefore much slower, thus making polygraph results inconclusive.
What are the chances someone would get drug-tested along with the polygraph, though? More importantly, would this stuff show up? The depressants may be easier, but the question is if it's leaving an opening for you to get fucked, and if so, what are the chances it'll happen..
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#11
 2001-05-14, 21:37
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sckbch 
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Re: Polygraph question????
Ok, for example: Benzodiazepines do not show up in the bloodstream as easily as any other drug. Benzos also require slightly different, therefore more expensive test. Qualitative testing for presence of benzodiazepine is required. Quantitative levels are not usually clinically useful. Detection in plasma is usually only performed in specialized analytical toxicology laboratories, drug testing kits lack capability of detecting benzos in plasma.
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#12
 2001-05-14, 23:42
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Re: Polygraph question????
The standard trick is to over react to all the questions. You must do this realisticly and the simplest way is to think of a lie and tell it in your head before answering with the truth. The test relies on there being a difference between your responce to questions which they know the answer to and you therefore don't know the answer to and the questions they don't. The act of mentaly lying will mask the difference. However to do this well you need practice and that is hard to come by unless you work for the KGB.
------------------ ~Kameron Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!)
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#13
 2001-05-15, 04:31
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Re: Polygraph question????
I once lied on a polygraph test and passed... The police made me take one... Does that mean I'm a psychopath? Perhaps... I mean, that's what the doctors keep telling me.
I'm not kidding.
Cheers, Lost
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#14
 2001-05-15, 10:35
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Spiffy McBang 
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Re: Polygraph question????
Psychopath? hmm... I'll have to e-mail you next time I'm in Florida.. 
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#15
 2001-05-15, 13:25
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joho 
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Re: Polygraph question????
Try putting a pin in your shoe.Each time you are asked something step on the pin.This will raise your stress levels.Thus masking when you are telling lies.
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#16
 2001-05-15, 16:55
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Neo Nemesis 
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Re: Polygraph question????
the problem with stepping on a pin is that during the test youre required to sit STILL, it will detect a movement and the degree of stress will still very from the pin truth and the lie. about the natural instinct, whenever i train anybody for a sceem were pulling off i teach them how to make up a story that can be used in court as truth and wont have any conflicting evidence, and how to plant the evidence, and most importantly how to believe the story that you came up with, believe it so much that you in fact know that its the truth, become a phsycopath until your outa the heat live your lie. fuck the KGB anybody can do it with enough mentality, but if it cant be used as evidence in court, then why worry?
------------------ Crime is an Art and a science
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#17
 2001-05-15, 18:19
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Spiffy McBang 
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Re: Polygraph question????
It may not be used in court..
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#18
 2001-05-16, 14:57
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Re: Polygraph question????
I did not mean stamp on the pin.You only need to press a toe for example.And you do it for every question.Not just the truth thus causing stress for every time.And believe me pain is more stressful than lying.
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#19
 2001-05-16, 18:45
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othium 
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joho has a good idea, in fact we are all right in way.
------------------ cogito, ergo sum
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#20
 2001-05-25, 02:34
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Re: Polygraph question????
Yeah I'd never take one, in the US they are inadmissible in court if they find you lying or telling the truth so what's the point. You can always hold your breath and tense up you arms and abdominal mussels this will simply make the test garbage. Of coarse the test giver will know this but fuck him.
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#21
 2001-05-25, 08:13
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Z3m 
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Re: Polygraph question????
What I've been told is that it's very simple to pass a test when you recognize that it can't detect a lie. The rest is candy cakes.
That's what I've been told.
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#22
 2001-05-25, 11:28
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Ancisace 
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Re: Polygraph question????
How about a GSR test? How would you go about passing one of those? *curious*
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