im getting bored of reading the current topics. So to raise some activity in my numbed brain ill create a post. Ok here goes. Out of every fraud or scam out there (credit card, home, vehicle) I would like to know what other people think as to what will raise the most money with least effort and what would raise the most money effort aside? I have my own thoughts and wonder if maybe ive missed a couple. Let me know what you guys think. Make sure its realistic. No fantasy BS scams.

The American dream.

carding makes alot of money fast (if you are good at it) but it is a high risk crime and not easy. In fact there are no real get rich quick scams, over than robbing a bank, but even then you don't get to spend the money as you will probably be in jail. If it was easy to make money from crime everyone would be doing it. Dealing would be a good thing to get into if you have the contacts, or growing...

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I got something on the go right now and am carefully plottin it out, if all goes well I'll tell you about it at a later date.

when i posted i wanted new ideas at what people thought in what a good scam is. People say that there are no get rich quick but there are some that get you richer than others. tell me what you think is the best scam for this. Ok next one was what is the best scam no matter how long it took. best meaning most money and relatively safe. I know what i think and want YOU to tell everyone what you think. ill give you what i think later and see if you guys agree.

the best scam..theoretically speaking, is the untracable one.... you say everythings tracable? well maybe only to a very minor extent, observe.....

the person that you get your card shit from know you as someone else

the normal people you sell your carded shit to never really see or know you(you be like a big drug dealer, deal to a few trusted people who you train with a good bullshit story on how they bought the laptops from a guy in an ally[he then only gets possesion of stolen property,onless caught selling, but still not to major])

kill whoever rats

use a public computer like at a library with latex gloves on and disguise yourself a bit like not your usual clothes

get ordered to a PO box at mail boxes etc.(the addredd is a suite) that you obtained with a fake (or photocopied altered) ID

Pick it up in a car with a switched licence plate and also wear not your usual clothes

NEVER USE THE CARD AGAIN
NEVER USE THE SAME BOX AGAIN, EVER
NEVER USE THE SAME ANYTHING AGAIN

remember for your group to imagine that yous already followed your plan, then lead an investigation trying to catch yourselves and sentence yourselves, if you can catch youself change the plan to make it better untill you cant...
ALWAYS STUDY ABOUT PAST ATTEMPTS,THE LAW,INVESTIGATIONS and remember
CRIME IS AN ART AS WELL AS A GAME!!!!



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why not?

A friend of my boyfriend used to have this con artist friend who got a hold of one of his neighbours chequebooks, of whom he was supposed to be friends with. He got her college I.D card and then they wrote out a cheque for ten thousand dollars and just walked into Western Union and cashed it. No fooling. No questions asked. They just cashed a fucking ten thousand dollar cheque and no one got in trouble at all. It was like it never happened... So, there are a few lucky cases once in a while. However, I guess it wasn't so lucky for the girl whose cheque book he stole...

Cheers,
Lost

maybe it was good for them but too bad it wasnt me chashing the check. damn.

in other word dont leave ANY evidence cuz if you dont the law aint got a case. case dismissed and you get no jail time. he he

how can you obtain someone's cheque book? and if it's like over 50 or something, isn't that when you need to whip out a photo id? and if you do couldn't you just get one?

check it out when i used to work for target we only checked ids on checks over about $60. no id necessary. If they look at the check then take a couple of seconds then ask for your id then you accuse them of profileing and ask to speak to the manager. they will apologize and kiss your ass then go through with the check. Profiling is like discriminating. just say cuz the name on the card sounds white and your black or vice versa. someone did this to me and boy did i hate it. one last thing if you enter the store grab some food and eat it. dont pay just eat then throw the wrapper away. you cannot get in trouble. you ate the evidence. they have no proof and large stores would rather lose the money then chase a customer away over a $0.99 bag of chips. ok finally the very last thing if you have some clothes with the tag still on and its from a fancy store like macys or robinsons may return it to Nordstrom and say that you bought it there if they dont return it got to the dept manager if they dont do it go to the store manager and they WILL return it if not then call the Nordstrom brothers and they will personally talk to you apologize and get everyone in trouble for not exchanging your item. they may even give you some gift certificates for your trouble. the key point is to say that you will NEVER shop there again. this is the sweet spot. they would rather lose money then lose a customer. but dont do this too often. I know this will work for sure.

cmon people i know im not the only one that knows how to pull a decent scam. starts speaking up. answer my post. i know that not all of you out there are completely incompetent. put your brain to use and respond DAMN IT!!! im tired of the same old shit give me new thoughts to go from. if you have a scam and wanna know if it will work run it by me ill tell you the god honest truth. or a plain yes or no.

well i dont know what to do with this , but my mom worked at wallmart and she tells me every thing about the store , but eney way

you dont need a receat to return stuff and u can return stuff from eney store (like canaidian tire) to wallmart as long as they have it.

now what im tryin to say is wait for a sail or a really cheep price from somewere elce .
then check wallmart to see if the price is higher than that if it is buy the item thats cheep from another store and come back to wall mart and return the item and get your money back + pluse the diffrence (eg, u see a 100 dollar stereo from canadian tire and its 200 bucks at wall mart , then u buy the 100 dollar deal and return it to wallmart and make a 100 dollar profit)

some times u can make alot of money some times u can make just a buck , but keep your eyes open in the flyers!..

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Originally posted by bigsnoopdeezy:
well i dont know what to do with this , but my mom worked at wallmart and she tells me every thing about the store , but eney way

you dont need a receat to return stuff and u can return stuff from eney store (like canaidian tire) to wallmart as long as they have it.

now what im tryin to say is wait for a sail or a really cheep price from somewere elce .
then check wallmart to see if the price is higher than that if it is buy the item thats cheep from another store and come back to wall mart and return the item and get your money back + pluse the diffrence (eg, u see a 100 dollar stereo from canadian tire and its 200 bucks at wall mart , then u buy the 100 dollar deal and return it to wallmart and make a 100 dollar profit)

some times u can make alot of money some times u can make just a buck , but keep your eyes open in the flyers!..

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wrong!

Without a reciept Wal-mart returns store credit. Not cash. I fuck with walmart every weekend. the other problem walmart has is if you return an item without a reciept you only get store credit for the lowest price that item was sold for. So if that item was sold at 15% of its orriginal price that is the amount you get in store credit. If you pull enough scams you can in fact use all your store credits to purchase a computer. But lets face it, if you walk up to a cashier with 12 in store credits you will most likely be questioned in a big way.

also if you get 3 or more store credits in a month period they refuse store credits. they know the scams. you can only get credit a few times. they do in fact ask for ID when you have no reciept. this way they can keep your name on file. and target is even stricter.

well no , just cuz u fuck evry one in wallmart dosnt mean ur answer is correct dumb bitch , imean white witch..

the first thing they say is do you want store credit , you dont have to take it , you can demand the money , belive me my moms deals with welfare bums like ur self every day that return shit without a recipt and get ther money..

Nito,

Check washing. Find my post. Steal checks, wash them in acetone. Obtain a fake ID, write out the ID to the name of the ID with yer pic on it. Then go cash it. Throw away the ID.

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You're in a laundry room, You're in a laundry room, the clue just came to you? Oh.

ill check out the check washing you know who else returns without a reciept for cash is home depot just show them your id. ive posted this b4 but im sure no one notices. i couldnt find that check washing send me a direct link please. i think i already know it but ill take it as a refresher course. thanx for posting just keep it coming.

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Originally posted by Lokil:
Nito,

[b]Check washing. Find my post. Steal checks, wash them in acetone. Obtain a fake ID, write out the ID to the name of the ID with yer pic on it. Then go cash it. Throw away the ID.

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hey lokil does this stuff really work?

i work a mervyns this works some times. buy some cloths people need cloth so buy some pay with cash. then come back next week or goto another store pick up the same items you bought take the hangers out and stuff then but the cloths into a meryns bag *thats important just makes it look like you bought it* then return it. If they dont but a line and signature next to the returned item do it over and over again. Try not to return everything on the reciept that will look odd and they may page "L" that means get the fuck out of the store. Like say your in mens doing this and you hear "L 390 L 390" 390 may be the number of the department look at the phones this will tell you the number of the department your in so you can listen for the pages. People do this shit all the time and since the burden of proof is on the store it actually hard to get in trouble. Do this with expensive blue jeans and you can make 100 bucks with two pairs.

ya Lateralus, the key is making a new very well made fake id with each check you cash. and try to up the amount of the check reasonably...

be careful when doing the receipt scam. cuz they watch for that. i used to work for target and people would do that all the time. go in the parking lot and find a receipt worth keeping then go in and find it exchange and boom your set. good thing to do this with is a vacuum cleaners. they range from 100 - 200 dollars. at target whenever we saw a receipt we had to rip it up to prevent this.

things are getting a little dull so to raise some conversation here goes. so this is not a scam but is a illegal method of making SHIT LOADS of money. so what do you guys think about coyotes? whats a coyote huh? its the guys that cross mexicans from mexico to the US for about 2 g's a head depending on the method of entry. ways of entry include walking across the border fields. walking straight through the border with a fake id and SS#. or in a vehicle. Let me know what you guys think about this business. 2 grand between 1 hour - 1 day. not bad ehh. some one close to me does this and has about 80 grand waiting for him after he gets out of prison. he did get caught cuz someone snitched. but 80,000 for 1 year of prison i think its worth it.

what no responses??!??!?!?!?!?!? whats amatta with you people. no intellegent thoughts. a forum full of rocket scientists and not post i am shocked and dismayed. i dont beleive it the most intelligent people in the world and no responses damn. i am SO dissapointed. ha what a bunch of BS huh.

does this mean that all the people out there do not have a fucking opinion. WTF is wrong with people. why dont you guys just freely express your opinions instead of holding them back like an idiot.

I'm not going to be involved with Mexican nationals.

about the wal-mart return policy if you return something without a receipt the ask to see your id then they give you a wal-mart gift card with the amout of purchase know with that gift card go and buy something that cost then same price then they will give you a reciept then take that item back with the reciept and they will give you cash no question ask

Target wow were all part of the Marshal Fields family isn't that swell! Yeah people love to fuck with receipts. Hell I'd do it. Oh yeah and if you work at one of these store you can usaully find *store copy* receipts in the trash bins back in recieving with numbers and signatures don't ask me how the hell they get there. Im to big of a pussy to fuck with credit card fraud. And the day after Thanks Giving Jesus just come into the store with an empty bag fill it up and leave. HAHA the alarm will go off but just keep walking. Come early like when the door opens there will be like 300 people in the store.

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well this ideas not so much of a scam but its fraud

if you get someone with a bank card that has these options

1.checking account
2.and the "no holding" option
3.and a daily cash limit thats 200bucks or alot of money.

then take an envalope put a peice of paper in the size of a check and seal it..its gotta be thows envalopes beside the bank machine in the bank

then put some sun glasses or a hat on or some shit so the camaras dont catch ur face

go to the ATM at the bank stick in the envalope and with ur frends card select deposit...then it says u deposited it
then with the "no holding" option on the card go to another atm and withdraw that

then get ur frend to call in a day later and say that they lost there card in the movie theater or something , they will check it up and say it was frauded and will ask them to come in and sign this peice of paper that says they did not do it(witch they didnt ovecourse)

..and thats it

peopole are doing this like crazy from our school..i aint tellin u witch one

but they would make like 2 or 300 bucks just in one card..

some banks dont have that option with "no hold" so u gotta look around ...and dont be doumb and fraud a brand new card u just got..

...Or you could make a card on a fake account.