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 #1 
Old 2000-10-04, 18:46
GroundZero GroundZero is offline
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Thanks for making my job so fun Eldritch!

The flyer scheme worked well. It didn't start a riot but it was very effective.

This is what we did: We printed up a flyer that advertised the Gravediggaz playing at the target club. On the flyer, we put free before midnight. This was so that the aggressive genre would show up at 11:30 which is the also the time that most of their regular customers show up. It worked! The night it happened the people that came to see the show were pissed. They didn't get very violent. However, they did hang out in the parking lot for hours and harass the customers. That night about 50 people didn't go in to the club because they were afraid to walk through the parking lot. Doesn't seem like much but the week after. Which was last week. Their numbers dropped from 5-600 to about 75 people.

LITERALLY THOU$AND$ LO$T!

Here's another idea that I think might fly:

The building is one story tall. I looked at the roof from the next parking lot over and I can see that there is an air intake/vent for ciculation through-out the club. What I would like to do is spray pepper-spray or mace in it to clear the club from the inside out. It would be easy to do because I could throw it from the lot I was looking from and it's a clear shot (about 20ft). What I would like to know is if anybody has a recipe for CS a.k.a teargas. The reason I want CS is the fact that pepper-spray and mace disolves kinda quick. It might not all get into the club or most of it will blow away on the roof. CS doesn't go away to easy. It kinda hangs in the air for a while. If anybody knows how to make it, it would be appreciated.
 #2 
Old 2000-10-04, 20:39
Bongman Bongman is offline
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Default Re: Sabotage II

Why mace em, when you can lace em! Make them understand.
 #3 
Old 2000-10-04, 23:38
Eldritch Eldritch is offline
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Why use mace or pepper spray? Do you hate the customers that much? If you toss a smoke grenade in there it will pour through the ventilation system (provided it's not a one way duct) and more than likely set off all the sprinklers inside. A fire scare will ensue and aside from shutting the place down for a night and possible longer from water damage, you'll probably ruin some peoples clubbing clothes if the sprinkler system is very good.
 #4 
Old 2000-10-05, 01:39
Alan Smithee Alan Smithee is offline
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Iv got to agree wiht eldrich there is a fine line between a harmless prank and maceing people for beeing in the wrong place at the wrong time. A stink bomb would also be apropriate or just ranic eggs and dairy products. Remember though you might get caught and the cost of water damage and cleaning out a stink can be high. what exactly did the owner do to make you hate him? If it was somthing like firing you or not let you in because your a minor You already got your revenge and you didnt get caught, its done walk away while your a head. what exactly did this guy do?
 #5 
Old 2000-10-05, 04:38
Bongman Bongman is offline
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I'll say it again.

Why mace em when you can lace em!

Lace=Liqued Acid
 #6 
Old 2000-10-05, 14:05
GroundZero GroundZero is offline
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Well, It started about 6 months ago. There is a club that I work for. It's a great place to work. The owner is an older man that has owned a few places over the years and he's good guy. He knows what he's doing and he's a fair man. Sometimes he can be hard to work for cause he's an old marine. He's a guy that will help you if your down i.e. money or whatever he can do.
At this club he is an absentee owner. Usually the manager makes all the decisions on a regular basis. The last manager (not the current one) didn't have the heart to run the place. He was drinking on the job, stealing, and not promoting the place as he should of been. When the owner caught on it was too late. When he was about to dismiss (fire) the guy, and send a guy that has worked for him a while in his place, the manager emptied the safe and left with out any notice. The place was hurting. The assisstant mgr. a young kid who didn't really manage much but did all the errands and other stuff had to open the place. He had no idea of what happened until he came into work and realized there was no mgr and no money. Money had to be released to the assisst mgr who would normally not have acsess to the clubs bank account to open the place for buisness. The money was for change, beer, etc.
Now the new mgr gets here. He came here on short notice and drove for 24 hours to get here in order to save the buisness. When he got here I could tell he felt uncomfortable.
He didn't know anyone and had never been in an awkward situation like this before. Also, he had never even been in the state. Now the plan was that he would come down for 2 weeks stabilize the place and go home for a week to get his belongings to move to here. During the first week I felt bad for him. The last mgr had left the place in such a rutt/debt/ hole that the new guy literally fought off bill collectors, utility companies, and even the IRS on which last mgr did not pay. Just to keep the place open. He was stressing. To make matters worse, one of the promoters had loaned the last mgr money (a few thousand) with a legal agreement to be payed back in the CLUBS name for god knows what and was threating to take his night somewhere else. The 2nd week the new mgr was here the owner came down. He had just had heart surgery and the whole thing was taking a toll on him. He didn't do anything wrong to deserve this but shit happens ya know. He came down with $20G cash to pay the bills that he had not known owed and left with $40 in his pocket and not everything was payed off.
Then, the new mgr leaves for a week to go home and move here. He worked his ass off and even though he was only here for 2 weeks the club was running better internally than it had ever did. We had everything that we needed. Everything was stocked. We had flyers for the nights that didn't have a promoter. Things were getting done. He even made plans to renevate the place to give it a fresh new look. While he was gone the assisst mgr had to open the place and make sure things were working. During the week, Friday night, one of the DJ's said to every one "why don't we go to another club so we don't have to deal with the problems of this place". I said I thought that it was fucked up for him to even mention something like that, it seems like everything is getting better. Most of the other employees aggreed and no one thought it meant anything more. Came into work Saturday night to set up for my shift. NO ONE was there to open the doors. I thought, "this is weird""what the fucks going on". I and few other employees where just waiting/thinking the same thing. We called the assisst mgr and there was no answer. It came time to open and still no one was there. We waited the entire night. What was even more strange was that not that many people showed up that night. We figured that many would show and we would take there name down for a free entry and drink for next week. Only about 50 people came from a regular amount of about 500. I couldn't believe it. The DJ + the promoter for that night + the assisst mgr + another promoter/bartender had quit with out notice and didn't tell the mgr or the owner. The reason not that many people showed was that they took the mailing list and sent a mass mailing that stated the place is closed down due to the fact the owner does dirty buisness, anyone who would still work there must be dirty too, and that the reason the last mgr left was because the owner owed HIM money and would not pay.

They literally STOLE the buisness!

I will tell you guys the rest of what happened later. Right now it is almost time for me to get to work.
 #7 
Old 2000-10-05, 17:53
Suziegirl Suziegirl is offline
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Ahh all makes sense now..

well you can also go for individual revenge on those people... Let me guess, their social security numbers are on file at the club right?
You could do some really interesting things with that.....

If you wanted to spend some money, arranging to have a large amount of drugs in the club one night, hell, get someone to give them away for free for about 2-3 hours, then call the cops and tip them off, once your friend is safely away, you could also leave a decently large stash in the toilets or somewhere, then when you call the cops, tell them that the dealer was doing business in the the toilets, and the club owners/managers knew all about it, but turned a blind eye so their patrons would be happy. If you're convincing enough as a good citizen "ohhh I was there, never been there before, but drugs are bad bad bad things" the cops go there, find the drugs, kick everyone out and ruin the night, and also put the club under serious investigation... Of course you'll get a few incidental people arrested for accepting the free drugs, but I bet they won't be going back to that club again.. Make sure the person handing out drugs is pretty heavily disguised, so noone can describe them.. Just make them dress in an outlandish way, bright colors and hats and stuff, because then the people will notice the clothes more than the person.. preferably a friend from out of town...
 #8 
Old 2000-10-05, 20:14
raverz_choice raverz_choice is offline
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you could always kill him. It is the easiest.

as well you might want to consider some of they ideas in the revenge 1 and 2 post.
 #9 
Old 2000-10-06, 02:16
Alan Smithee Alan Smithee is offline
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arson.
 #10 
Old 2000-10-06, 19:29
Suziegirl Suziegirl is offline
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arson is too obvious... too easy to get busted for, because the motive is too obvious..
 #11 
Old 2000-10-07, 01:27
Alan Smithee Alan Smithee is offline
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alright then try to get the health inspectors onto them.
 #12 
Old 2000-10-07, 07:28
Trippy_McGee Trippy_McGee is offline
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Release a sackful of sewer rats onto the dance floor.

*crunch, crunch, crunch*
 #13 
Old 2000-10-07, 07:36
Alan Smithee Alan Smithee is offline
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poop on him.
 #14 
Old 2000-10-08, 08:13
Trippy_McGee Trippy_McGee is offline
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Fill a plastic bag with watered down shit. Then stand in a strategical place, poke a hole in the bag with a knife or needle and spin the bag above your head. Yummy yummy.
 #15 
Old 2000-10-08, 18:03
raverz_choice raverz_choice is offline
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I don't know there is always that letting sewer rats out and that drugs idea but could you not do this. buy like 5 baby mice and stick them in the pockets of a very expensive and an offen looked at coat/pair of pants the works and stick the mice in the pockets when a costomer puts it on well I think you know the rest.

If you let the sewer rats loose and did the drug idea all in around the same time you were to throw a smoke bomb in the air ducts well after the water stopped pooring and the cops searched the place for drugs I think around this time somebody is bound to notice all these damn rats.
 #16 
Old 2000-10-09, 03:49
Suziegirl Suziegirl is offline
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Too freaking obvious as a setup if you do all that stuff at once.

The idea is to make it seem real, because if it looks like a setup, the cops will be looking for a setup-ee, whereas if it looks at least reasonably genuine, then the club will be the ones getting in trouble, not you..
 #17 
Old 2000-10-09, 09:10
GroundZero GroundZero is offline
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Sorry to not post back right away. It was a long weekend.

Your right Eldritch I don't hate the customers at all. Mace or pepper spray is a bad idea. However, smoke is a good one.

 #18 
Old 2000-10-09, 11:51
AltF4 AltF4 is offline
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They would know who the setupee is. They would be looking for a setuper... just thought i would be a smart-ass...
 
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