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Old 2002-09-21, 02:15
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Default Marilyn Manson

does anyone here like his music? he himself is a complete tosser, but you can't really fault his music. some of his instrumentals are brilliant (like the resident evil theme, and 'seizure of power'(that track is perfect) from the soundtrack).

anyway, whats his best cd?
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Old 2002-09-21, 11:00
laerif laerif is offline
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manson sucks on corporate cock nowadays if you ask me in the days of portait of an america family and antichrist superstar even mechinical animals he was genius but this holywood shit is just not worth mentioning
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Old 2002-09-21, 14:15
thewhacker thewhacker is offline
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so very true.

Damn goths and their so called "anti-christ"

well all i have to say is
"image theres no countries. Nothing to kill or die for, no religion too"-john lennon
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Old 2002-09-22, 02:29
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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i like most of his music. my favorite song is mechanical animals. that image of "im a hand grenade that never stoped exploding" is so fucking vivid its sick.
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Old 2002-09-22, 11:51
laerif laerif is offline
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favorite song would have to be the reflecting god tripped to it (well full last tour on earth cd) but that track stuck in my head as a watched him live from a birdeye view its been my fav of his ever since
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Old 2002-09-22, 14:52
kingenrage kingenrage is offline
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in case u guys didnt know manson revolutionised rock music as much as kiss and mettalica.
He will not fit under a label and he has become a great artist over the years backed by many musical experiances. i couldnt name his best song because they are so many.
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Old 2002-09-22, 16:03
djsam djsam is offline
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I love Manson, but I can't help but laugh at the above post. Manson revolutionary? Hell no. Pretty much everything he does, he's gotten from someone else.

Like I said, I love Manson, but its all a fucking act. He knows it, he admits it. Ever met the guy? I have. Backstage, was he spitting blood, sucking his own dick? No. He was laughing, having a good time.

And also, I can put him under a label very well. Goth rock. Its that simple. Elements of metal, industrial, and even grunge in there (very hard to see, but its there). And of course, rock.

And one more thing. How did Kiss and Metallica revolutionize music? For Metallica, there were plenty of other bands playing speed metal just like them, even before them. Kiss? They may have made costumes and big boots cool, but their music wasn't anything all that different then what was currently available. Hell, they did a fucking disco album. Thats sooooo revolutionary.
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Old 2002-09-22, 17:07
kingenrage kingenrage is offline
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by the sheer number of fans, and the # of bands that adopted that style.

maybe revolutionary is a big word.
lets just say influanced
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Old 2002-09-22, 20:29
Death_Pixie Death_Pixie is offline
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Manson is greatness... Okay so he is getting a bit mellow, but he up till AntiChrist (or maybe Mechanical Animals) He was just so great that it can make up for the past few years of badness. Afterall, every band has its bad songs and albums. I just hope the new album will go back tword more of the old manson we all know and love. His music seemed to go from Hateful and sick (portrait, antichrist) to sorrowful and depressing (MA, and holywood). I would say he has done good on most of the albums, espeshally if you could the last tour and Smells like children ones... he has like 2 (or one if you like MA) out of 6, so its not too bad for someone who has been around for so long.
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Old 2002-09-22, 21:52
Phonix Shock Phonix Shock is offline
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OMG u think Manson is GOTH ROCK, his music sounds do not belong in the goth rock genre.
I think you better look Goth Rock up!!

Anyway, i am a fan of Manson's music defintly, i loved Anti-Christ Superstar, one of his best albums in my opinion, i can't wait for this new album to come out.
Golden Age of Grotesque, humm, nice title.


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Old 2002-09-22, 23:23
kingenrage kingenrage is offline
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Correct me if im wrong but goth rock is:
Some chick who should be in the opera, drums out of control, base almost no varation and high end guitar rifs.

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Old 2002-09-22, 23:48
djsam djsam is offline
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The "goth rock" genre is not one specific thing, its more broad than that.
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Old 2002-09-26, 07:14
TheDarkSalvation TheDarkSalvation is offline
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i'm a huge manson fan but i will be the first to admit his "holywood" album was a dissapointment altho the lyrical content was great in songs like "target audience" and "the nobodies" the line some children died the other day,we fed machines and then we prayed,puked up and down in morbid faith,you should have seen the ratings that day" was just brillant favorite song:man that you fear,turniquet
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Old 2002-09-26, 09:17
Jadedfool Jadedfool is offline
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quote:

Damn goths and their so called "anti-christ"



shut up.

manson is most definitely NOT goth. He's industrial-lite...
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Old 2002-09-26, 16:23
Phonix Shock Phonix Shock is offline
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Oh Finally, yes, he is NOT goth, thank you.

Also once again, NOT GOTH ROCK, if u think he is goth rock u don't know anything about the genre.

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Old 2002-09-26, 19:56
Jadedfool Jadedfool is offline
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goth rock is a myth, sorta like grunge...
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Old 2002-09-28, 15:06
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He is a goth.
admit he is. Like all those fucking goth in school that act like they are so evil because they worship the devil and listen to manson. And then when you ask them if they beleive in god
WELLL YOUI BELEIVE IN THE FUCKING DEVIL THENYOU MUST BELEIVE IN GOD YOU DUMB FUCK ahhhh...

i like his music. I just dont like the act that he pus up its just plain stupid and all these white boys are trying to copy him.
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Old 2002-09-28, 16:53
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manson has been on of my favorites... not for his look, but for his music..

people that base their taste of music by what an artist looks like, are very shallow indeed..
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Old 2002-09-28, 21:18
TheSellOut TheSellOut is offline
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None of you dumbfucks can spell worth a flying fuck.
Manson is pop-goth-shock-rock(a fucking 'o' in every fucking word).
When we look at the real definitions of the words we can hopefully all agree that he should be 'labeled' this.
If you mix your cliches in the right way you can get something considered new. First- Manson can't be original, no one can. If they are we'd all think they were total shit. Don't confuse this with all shit being original- its not. Anyway, Manson's philosophy doesn't exactly follow along the same lines as the one these little goth kiddies belive in. If I was Manson I think I'd start harvesting some of these kiddie-slaves and using them for something profitable. Like selling weapons to foriegn countries or selling cookies door-to-door.
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Old 2002-09-29, 05:11
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Listen to some of his lyrics (or read his fucking autobiography) and you will see Manson is the farthest thing from a devil worshipper - a satanist is actually a LOT closer to a nihilist... somebody who doesn't believe in anything (including god or devil). I can think of numerous interviews on numerous occasions he has said how he believes he is his own god.

I thinks he is another brilliant trying to be the oversoul. I do think Holywood sucked more than any of his other albums, I hope his new one is better
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Old 2002-09-29, 05:36
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everybody hear seems to love manson but hate hollywood. Well i love him, but i think hollywood was one of his better albums. I like depressing music more than angry music. He ignores god all together in HOllywood except for a few short mentions. I don't know why he is so opsessed with Kenedy all the sudden. Very weird fetish for a rockstar. Have you seen the coma white video. And on HOllywood there is 3 tracks about it. Freaky shit.
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Old 2002-09-29, 14:34
TheSellOut TheSellOut is offline
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Holywood had a great number of hits.
About Manson's Kennedy fascination:

Kennedy had an affair with Marilyn Monroe.
In his presidency he was loved as the great American hero, he would have been a perfect anti-christ if not for the fact that he got shot. 'you killed the kennedy's and huxley too' - I think this insinuates that a force larger than the Kennedy's or even Kennedy's assassin's influences(Huxley) is at presence and being spoke to.
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Old 2002-09-29, 21:02
BaalBigor BaalBigor is offline
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Gothic rock sucks and to all those people that think they are evil because they listen to manson is like saying i'm hardcore cuz i listen to limp dix gothic is a ganre that shows all of its good sides in gothic metal and some of its sides in black metal and if you wanna fell evil listen to fucking Cradle Of Filth or Deicide usw. Manson is a disgrace as much as HIM I think of manson as a smart guy with some good ideas but they are not his music like his has been out there before him he just like to shock puritans and make fun of them what he does isn't shocking.i'm not an ozzy fan and i don't like him but bitting a head of an animal well thats a shock
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Old 2002-09-30, 06:28
Jadedfool Jadedfool is offline
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yeah, but he's a really funny guy...
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Old 2002-09-30, 11:46
horns_of_baphomet horns_of_baphomet is offline
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Originally posted by BaalBigor:
if you wanna fall evil listen to fucking Cradle Of Filth or Deicide


Kind of true but if you want to be truely evil listen to cannibal corpse or gorelord. Christ! Singing about ripping out organs and sticking rodents up cunts is a little bit more evil than " wah wah wah, my life sucks, im a grenade look at me" marilyn mansons anti christ superstar wasnt bad but theres something about it i dont like, when i do fi#nally put my finger on it ill let you know

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Old 2002-09-30, 16:57
TheSellOut TheSellOut is offline
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Originally posted by horns_of_baphomet:
Kind of true but if you want to be truely evil listen to cannibal corpse or gorelord. Christ! Singing about ripping out organs and sticking rodents up cunts is a little bit more evil than " wah wah wah, my life sucks, im a grenade look at me" marilyn mansons anti christ superstar wasnt bad but theres something about it i dont like, when i do fi#nally put my finger on it ill let you know




Aren't you a dumbass. If that's 'truely evil' then I can play Satan with these lyrics I just made up:

'Look at me im a child rapist
I'm a human race hatist(?)

I'll screw your mom on the altar
I'll jab a crucifix up her cunt
all awhile smokeing a blunt

I'm licking shit off the ass of some
retirement home patient - because i'm so cool and i live for sensation.'

Oh yeah so much fucking talent for such an evil bastard. Its pretty easy to think up shit to play with peoples sensibilities.

Somehow Manson seems to get his point across better to me than some dimwit(like I pretended to be ) who is quite obviously just trying to be 'hardkor'.




[This message has been edited by TheSellOut (edited 10-01-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-01, 07:13
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just because you like a certain type of music doesn't mean that your trying to be all hardcore. it means that you like the music. it doesn't mean that you like artist either. as i said, marilyn manson (the person or the image depending on how you look at it) is a complete tosser, but his music is great.

anyway, does it really matter what genre it is in?
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Old 2002-10-01, 18:37
horns_of_baphomet horns_of_baphomet is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by TheSellOut:
Aren't you a dumbass. If that's 'truely evil' then I can play Satan with these lyrics I just made up:

'Look at me im a child rapist
I'm a human race hatist(?)

I'll screw your mom on the altar
I'll jab a crucifix up her cunt
all awhile smokeing a blunt

I'm licking shit off the ass of some
retirement home patient - because i'm so cool and i live for sensation.'

Oh yeah so much fucking talent for such an evil bastard. Its pretty easy to think up shit to play with peoples sensibilities.

Somehow Manson seems to get his point across better to me than some dimwit(like I pretended to be ) who is quite obviously just trying to be 'hardkor'.


[This message has been edited by TheSellOut (edited 10-01-2002).]



hmmm... how clever. Youve now shown everyone how ignorant you really are. They play that music because they want to. Not to sound hardcore, not for the money, not for chicks. Its all a laugh and if you take that seriously then you really are just a stupid kid arnt you?
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Old 2002-10-02, 16:53
TheSellOut TheSellOut is offline
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You're the only ignorant one I see, simply because you fail to see any point of view other than your own.
First- you don't seem to understand that 'doing what I like' happens to thread into 'being hardkor' or 'having girls' or 'being famous'. If junk like this is your idea of fun you must be a really boring bastard. It must be fun shouting meaningless words, being unproductive and insulting people who are atleast partially making an impact on others.
 
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