ok ive posted this before but is there anyone here into electronica be it techno, electro, drum n bass, industrial, euro, detroit, or any other that i havent mentioned i know theres a few fellow disco biscit munchers out there.
my favriote band at the moment is kraftwerk
any takers?

Ever hear a song called "Marder" by Ramasutra. It's pretty good.

I personally like daft punk (althought their new album seems a bit cheezy), fatboy slim and Chemical Brothers.

who the fuck wants to be influenced by PAC MAN, yeah thats right man PAC FUCKING MAN, you doods walk around dark rooms and eat tablets and listen to repetative music, LIKE FUCKING PAC MAN!!!!

techno music designed for junkies, sorry doods, but from a muso's point of view do you know how easy it is to create that shit!!

i have no problems with electro/industrial harcore shit like played in a few metal styles, but the vien that your shit is played in, fuck man its like it depends how good it is by what you take, fucken tech-NOOO

Hell it's better than rap.

nice one red try get hold of a tune by IF "space invaders are smoking grass" its realy good duby electro and nhil i put it to you that you haven't actually heard any good tech its not all just repetative nonsencei admit there is some electronica that is but thats generally main stream nonsence that i in no way endorce you have to search for good stuff try listening (by the way this is only a sugestion) to japanese telecom, dopplereffekt, drexciya, IF,dj godfather,dj assault.
i admit to truly(in my opinion) enjoy tech to its full potentual xtc is advisably but do you get stoned to and apreciate your music more? its relative. its by no means black and white. its down to the indavidual what recreational drugs they take and how they apreciate them
and anyway most techno has its roots in industrial and speed metal like gabba metal or even stuff like skinny puppy or ministry or atari teenage riot.
and yes it may be easy to create some tech but that doesn't mean its a bad thing (i actually wright tech that gets played in various clubs) look at punk you could say that the three chord early punk scene way easy but i bet you dont consider that a waste of time.

im prety wasted so please excuse any sp errors
dub


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to all the pac men, its the freaken vein of the shit, like their is no point ,

than wasting your time while your bones are in demise(from xtc and dehidration)

i am or never was into punk, but the three chord vein is better than sticking home made pill up you blurter, and dancing around to nothing?????

minestry proberly has a few trks that had some decent themes and lived up to it, but the shit inspired by that is nothing like that atmosphere, it is all touchy feely, and designed to sell more filtered crap!!!!!

i actually make the shit(meth) but dont take it, i am a black metal guitarest, and i train 5 days at the gym every day and run a horde amoungst other things, but dont listen to music high, as the themes and sound scapes of vast majestical unrealenting darkness are not for the rechriational tastes, like pac men music,

talentless and talor made like the top 40 i will always think. plus for junkies!!!

I tried "Space invaders are smoking grass" but I didn't like it much. It's a bit to somber for my tastes.

oh well can't say i didn't try

ok red try a tune by aphex twin called "tamphex" be warned its pretty heavy
or kraftwerk "electric cafe"
or japanese telecom "charachter maps"
nhil i can see im not gonna be able to curve your veiws but theres no need to go off on one just because you don't apreciate somthing.
as i said befor i don't listen to the mass produced noncence i live in one of the most well renowned techno cities in europe i know what im talking about.
try get hold of some gabba (hardcore euro speed metal) most of this uses 505's or 909's to produce the tech beat and fuse it with what ever the fuck they use to make that abrasive sound.
and once again as i said before its relative don't call me a junkie just because i indulge in xtc im not adicted neither do i take stupid amounts or take it with out caution or regually. its purely recreational.
itsd also the only drug i take apart from alcohol which i also do very rarely.
dub.

dub, abrasive?? is any thing of it really heavy man, like intense, i dont mean toe tapping intense but shit you would not hand clap to the triangle being play hard stuff,

i might be interested, i have a few bands on the compilaton we the horde are doing with themes that are electro heavy metal, but i havent ever heard of this shit, i dont think it could really be all that intense if you are listening on xtc, which may be a rechriational type thing but do you know what is in that shit, ha i make meth and i know what goes into this shit thats why i dont use, i get REAL adrenalin out of weight training, and that keeps all the testos in my system and fires my energy and is real , no peaks just plateau!!! if their are any mp3 of any of that shit post them dude, and i will try and find some of the other shit. and yes im afraid you are influence by pac man!! hehehe

I tried out the songs you recommended and the only one I liked was "Character maps" from japanese telecom (What a cool name. If I ever start a techno group, I'll have to get a name like that.).

On a second note, did you see the new video clip from Fatboy Slim for the song "Weapon of choice"? The song is average but the video clip stars Christopher Walken and it's pretty cool.

I like the chemical brothers, There set at Glastonbury was something elce. Music is different for everyone, techno and trance are an acquired 'taste' I love the songs that I just get mixed up into, anticipating every change because of the patterns forming In my mind and going wild as you flow with the music as the mood of the music takes you on a journey. Before you say anything I have never taken Pills, I have smoked weed, but that�s a different story. I love my music.

Oh and Nihil having a meth lab and selling it is one thing but boasting about it on a popular website it just plain dumb, I doubt you do make the shit as you would probably have more sense than to talk about it so openly here, yet again i do have to commend you for not being a complete dick and staying clean. I hear stories of meth labs blowing up cos the owner was stoned rotten, that might just be a government scare story though.

ok nhil try a tune by aphex twin "tamphex" or anything by atri teenage riot i recomend anything of the album "60 second wipeout" "posiblly "digital hardcore" (fucking amazing tune) or the dj from atari teenage riot alec empire im not to into the super hardcore scene but ive got a lot of freinds who are ill ask about for you.


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Prodigy, Chemical Bros, Portishead & more recently, Moby. Electronica or not, I dunno. But I like dem.

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i really like daft punks new album in a sick way. also a big underworld, orb, leftfield, aphex, roni size, and juno reactor fan. i kinda think fatboy slim has gone down hill fast.

Kraftwerks is the forefather of techno. Formed in germany 1968.

Everytime i hear people say David Bowie invented modern Rock i wanna smack them and yell "Kraftwerks" in their face!

mobys cool. Very good album.

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I love their shit, but it's too mainstream.

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Moby was good but only when he remixed old R&B song. His real techno wasn't that good.

i would have to say the crystal method is my favorite techno group, their music owns i would rather listen to them over anything they dont really play repetative music but i mean have any of you heard of buisy child? thats a real popular song its was played on the movie gone in 60 seconds and they did a cover of one their songs with tha band filter "trip like i do" thats and awsome song as well. i am alson into trance and thats where tha repative music comes in but i mean sum of trance is gay but if you are lucky enough to find sum worth listening to its awsome. and Dj keoki is pretty damn awsome as well. and last i am not a raver nor do i take XTC, i mean you dont gota be a raver to enjoy techno, and i thnk that raves are mainstream bullshit, everyone i know heads to houston every week to go to a rave i mean we got preps going and all kinds of things.

I don't know. I tried Crystall method and I like busy child and all but I think I prefer Fatboy Slim & Chemical Brothers.

hey dub.

nice music references.
have you heard I-F's cd "Mixed Up in The Hague"? very good stuff on there.
also, if you like dopplereffekt, japanese telecom, & drexciya - you should check out electroids. it's more electro goodness produced by the same/similar group of people.
what other music you into, you listed mostly electro stuff? any IDM? any techno? any house? etc?

peace.
ali

nice one, im not really that into house though i quite like some of the french stuff ive been getting into some japanese techno Takkyu Ishino he's got this tremendus tune "ghost in the shell" i just bought a record by him "pulsing disco cat" thats preety nice i like autecher(they just played about a week ago but i was working), dave tarida, tobias shcmit,scan 7, aux 88(they do a lot of remixes of dopplereffekt and drexciya stuff),ritchie hawtin, subhead, jeff mills. the lists endless.
by the way whats IDM?
also is that I-F album just come out ive got fucking consumer and the man from pack.
my mate had electroworld but it got stole at a party.


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i'm not too big on house either, maybe some tech-house and a little Theo Parrish - namely his sound signatures cd.

i'f's mixed up in the hague v.1 (on cd) came out last year around this time. try to get your hands on it - it's really good. i'm not into disco - but he pulls out some old italo disco (like mann parrish) records on it as well as mixing in some newer stuff (like ectomorph).

i'm going to see autechre at the beginning of may (in chicago) and at the detroit electronic music festival at the end of may. i saw them before (in 95) and i like their older stuff better than the newer stuff - but i'm still going to see them.

i saw jeff mills in detroit on march first this year - he did a 6 hour retrospective set, starting out with some old school breaks, then some early big rave music, and finally some of todays hard banging techno.

IDM is "Intelligent Dance Music". a lot of different stuff falls under that header, Kid 606, Boards of Canada, Autechre, Aphex Twin, Ken Ishi, - and on and on. kind of listenable techno as opposed to dancefloor techno.

i haven't heard of takkyu ishino before -
i'm going to check out some of his stuff next time i'm out spending money on music.

ali

ah you swine i really wanna get some detroit action when is it? i could possibly squease(sp) my meager wage to go.
my mates at a club round my way got dj godfather not that long ago and "shake"shakire shakes got a 6 month residency.
have you heard live at the liquid rooms by jeff mills
takkyu ishino does some good stuff on the "i love techno" albums


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