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Old 2002-12-20, 07:56
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Default Anti-Drug Propaganda

In the past, anti-drug ads have been sensational, often misinforming, and usually lame. I don't see anything wrong with encouraging parents to talk to their kids. Some of these ads, though, are getting really fucking ridiculous.

So here's the new ad. Two guys sit at a table. One says to the other, "This 'Drug money funds terrorism' thing is a ploy, a manipulation. Why should I believe that?" The other guy responds, "Because it's a fact." The guy in the commercial even thinks it's bullshit. "It's a fact?" The second guy: "F-A-C-T. Fact." �So you want me to believe it because it�s true? That�s your argument?� �It is true.�

And that�s it. No proof. No justification. Now things become facts simply because those in power say so.

Go here and get your fill of the bullshit:
http://www.mediacampaign.org/mg/television.html

This one is Ploy, and it�s sequel Okay is only slightly less full of shit.
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Old 2002-12-20, 08:35
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So that would make out dealers terroists? Bull shit. Who makes this shit up, ah the goverment.

-Firewall
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Old 2002-12-20, 09:04
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everyone knows thats bull shit. theres even a shirt on Tshirthell.com for it. http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a115
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Old 2002-12-20, 16:33
Chronic-Smoker Chronic-Smoker is offline
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actually, i was just talking about this in the topic "why is weed illegal" and ill copy and paste what i put on there;

i saw this anti-drug commercial where these 2 kids are talking about some stupid stuff. Then couple seconds later, it shows one of the kids hitting the bong, and the other kid found a gun, said something like "hey dude check this out" all of a sudden you hear a gunshot. After that it said something like; Pot, It distores reality or something like that. It really piss me off after that.


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Old 2002-12-20, 16:43
Chronic-Smoker Chronic-Smoker is offline
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that 1st link that was given on here had that thing i was talking about. On that site i think its under Den.
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Old 2002-12-20, 16:58
Chronic-Smoker Chronic-Smoker is offline
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ohh if you people wanna get pist off by some of the replies people said about pot go here.
http://www.freevibe.com/boards/site/threads.asp?threadID=15

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Old 2002-12-20, 17:50
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i go to highschool and they show this stupid youth commercials all the time on this thing called channel one (http://www.channelone.com) anyways they are real stupid and the message is wrong but we crack up because they are funny. Like when the dude drives off and nails that kid. No self rightous child would be riding there bike through there with no parents and if they were high most likely they wouldnt speed off like they did.
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Old 2002-12-20, 18:35
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if you have good fast connection, and want to get high and watch all those commercials online.. then go to http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/

the bigest drug propoganda site on the web, i love geting high and reading stupid bullshit strories how marijuana makes people commit suicides when they don't have money to buy pot...

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Old 2002-12-20, 21:53
pyro918v pyro918v is offline
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at my school they have posters on the walls that have like a hot model, and it says "Shes modeling because she didnt do drugs" then they have a poor bum laying on the streets next to it..
but these commercials they are coming out with about smoking weed is bullshit... just like the one where the 2 are smoking a J in a stadium bathroom(?) no ones even that stupid to do it in a place like that.
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Old 2002-12-20, 22:23
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we used to smoke J's in the cinema .
HAHAAHA i was actually quite paranoid, my old mate is fucking stupid. He thinks that 'literally' all people do it and no-one gives a shit about it!

It sounds cuntish but i'd love to see him get searched on the street and jailed for dealing
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Old 2002-12-20, 22:31
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Isn't it convienient that they can use terrorists now (after 9/11)? Where was this angle before? Joe bought a joint which funded a drive by by the dealer who paid the drug lord from South America, bla bla.... The worst thing is these narrow-minded sheeple that swallow this obvious concoction of fear injected, save the childeren, let's return to Leave it to Bearver simpltons! What about the BIGGEST drug dealer of 'em all--the Government? There are millions of xanax and valium heads running around and noboby cares because it's legal. Take those scrips back and half of the mothers who want to be Mrs. Cleaver will be shaking like a leaf for a week from pill withdraw. And wht is it always "Drugs and Alcohol"? Fucking alcohol is a powerful DRUG that rips lives apart--oh thats right its legal! Legalize pot, coke, and L.S.D. and take back the booze and you'd see crime and traffic accedents cut in half. Fuck these Marxist retarted lawmaking jaded fucks!
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Old 2002-12-21, 04:56
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Originally posted by Chronic-Smoker:
ohh if you people wanna get pist off by some of the replies people said about pot go here.
http://www.freevibe.com/boards/site/threads.asp?threadID=15



Fuck I REALLY wish I didn't click on that link. It has now driven me to the brink of insanity trying to devise a way to simultaneously murder all those sheltered little children in their beds.[/end sadistic rant]

Please don't post something like that again, for the sake of my mental health.

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Old 2002-12-21, 04:56
RejectJC RejectJC is offline
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How in the hell does it support terrorism, i hate those commercials. We support terrorism everyday when we buy stuff because the tax money goes to the goverment. Who goes off and bomb places and kill innocent people, thats terrorism. So fuck their campaign and fuck terrorism, because terrorism is everyhwere its our goverment, its in iraq, afghanistan, canada(well maybe not there) but basically everyhwere you can think of there is some sort of terrorism. Thats why those commercials are so damn dumb.



[This message has been edited by RejectJC (edited 12-21-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-21, 05:16
Billowz Billowz is offline
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Hahahah i just posted a message on that goddamned bored trying to teach those kids a lesson.


Damnit...I can't even post because it's against the rules.

You can't post here if: Your post is clearly written by someone beyond Freevibe's age group.


That's so dumb, it's trapping the kids in the propaganda at such a young age, it's impossible to turn them back!
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Old 2002-12-21, 06:15
RejectJC RejectJC is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Billowz:
Fuck I REALLY wish I didn't click on that link. It has now driven me to the brink of insanity trying to devise a way to simultaneously murder all those sheltered little children in their beds.[/end sadistic rant]



That site is dumb, and they wont let you post if you suggest them to smoke it and try it for themselves. Its a stupid website that is propaganding kids to not try marijuana. Marijuana will not kill them i dont see what their big deal is, oh ya, money. They make money of their dumb website and same with all these other stupid anti drug places.

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Old 2002-12-21, 06:39
Chronic-Smoker Chronic-Smoker is offline
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Heres some replies off that freevibe site that kids were saying that get you pissed off.

12/18/2002 10:11:38 PM
weedis4homofags -- i would say.."Yo dawg, get that * outa my face... it's four times worse than cigs and ill mess u up foo!"


12/18/2002 8:00:38 PM
boby -- Everytime someone offers me pot i just tell them the story of how my dad died from smoking the weed. I got a friend to Quit smoking after hearing the story

Smoking THE weed.. Lmao, how fuckin ridiculous.
http://www.freevibe.com/boards/site/threads.asp?threadID=15&page=2


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Old 2002-12-21, 09:51
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I smoke secret agents in public places but I wouldn't smoke a joint even though I probably would get away with it. Just wouldn't wanna risk it.

Anyways fuck anti-drug commercials, they're full of shit.

-Syko
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Old 2002-12-21, 21:17
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That freevibe shit really pissed me off... It just isn't right. Some of those little bitches are probly older than me and yet they are so fucking ignorant it is amazing. It sounds like they don't know anything more about weed than what D.A.R.E (grrr I hate those brainwashing bastards) left them with. Lol the deputy that tought my class brought in a crack rock or somthing like it. Those ignorant little shits should either look up that sort of stuff for themselves or just come over here and see what intelligent people have to say about all of the "Dangers" of "the weed"
Peace Out

*Dooby Snacks*
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Old 2002-12-21, 21:29
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The only one that I can stand is that "truth" thing about tobacco. It doesn't force an opinion on anyone (no comment on what it may imply), and i like when a group just shows the facts. That's why truth is way better than that parternship bullshit. ANyway, cigs are dumb. I only smoke the green herbs.
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Old 2002-12-21, 23:10
ren_blak ren_blak is offline
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heh, i just sent a message to www.freevibe.com 's "my story" board, I hope they post it

Please do not delete this post as I think it is important for people to know, that this anti-drug stuff is extremely stupid. Now, I say this in the most calm and un-harsh way that I can.
I have smoked the "devil weed" since grade 7, I am in grade 10 now and I'm 15 years old. Now, some drugs do affect GPA. I am in the gifted(smart, not dumb) program at my highschool. I maintain my marks, they haven't dropped in the least bit. I think that you people just need a scapegoat for you're stupidity, truly. And many of you seem to have tried drugs without knowing anything about them. I know what I'm talking about, I've tried many drugs since grade 9. Not because of peer pressure, but because I was interested in altered states of perception. I have experimented with weed, alcohol, 5-MeO-DMT, salvia, acid, DXM, shrooms, many opiates, 2C-B, dimenhydrinate, and 2C-I. As I said, I have maintained my marks without struggling in the least bit. Drugs give people interesting perceptions and help many people deal with their problems. I have always been depressed, after taking acid I've been able to sort out my problems. Drugs can be very helpful. We shouldn't create anti-drug propaganda. This is terrible. Instead of focusing on what the drugs will do to very few people, we should be educating the public on the dosage levels so that they don't overdose and die. And there are many drug myths. To list just a few:
-marijuana does not kill brain cells
-you can not overdose on acid, you can be extremely messed up for many days(depending how much you have) but you won't die
-the only deaths reported on acid have been because the people didn't have a sitter

I am sorry that this message didn't follow your message board policy, but it is important that people understand the truth. I am not promoting drug use, if you don't want to use drugs, please don't, if people are pressuring you into them, tell them to screw off. And if you are going to experiment with a drug, don't do it too often, because you may become addicted. Use common sense people and stay informed about drugs, don't just listen to one side of the story. Hopefully this message will have reached at least one person. Then they won't be persuaded to only follow the anti-drug propaganda.
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Old 2002-12-21, 23:31
punkrawkerstonershit punkrawkerstonershit is offline
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Some more freevibe shit:what isn't my anti-drug? when u smoke pot, LSD, heroine.

They think you smoke lsd what idoits
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Old 2002-12-21, 23:41
ren_blak ren_blak is offline
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That's why I hate that shit, because they're bad-mouthing stuff they haven't even seen being used. Some of those people probably haven't even seen *gasp* marijuana. And they go on talking about how they can get addicted after taking it once. Frankly, I think these people are complete idiots who don't know what they're talking about. They say on that site how 60% of teenagers are in drug rehab programs for marijuana. I'm guessing this is mainly because they're parents found some, and, being brainwashed themselves, thought their child was addicted. Well pshaw. I say we take down this site, start a petition, spam they're message board with threads about how great drugs are, just do something to piss them off lol. I especially hate people who say that people who smoke weed are violent. Most of the people who smoke weed are so mellow or lazy that they don't want to be violent.

lol, look at the reply to this question, I think the people running this site are complete idiots lol

randolf -- you guys said that magic mushrooms make a poison that causes hallucinations. if this is a poison, how then is is only possible to overdose on mushrooms if you eat somewhere near your body weight in them? wouldn't this mean that psylocybin and psylocin are not poisons?

Regardless of the amount needed to overdose, these substances are poisonous just the same. For more information on hallucinogens go to www.health.org Freevibe

[This message has been edited by ren_blak (edited 12-22-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-22, 00:03
pyro918v pyro918v is offline
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wow.. those stories are bullshit... for teenagers that dont do drugs they really cant spell worth shit... and they have the nerve to say that people that do drugs ruin their life and get stupid... hmm interesting..
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Old 2002-12-22, 05:46
Chronic-Smoker Chronic-Smoker is offline
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heres another stupid thing from that freevibe site...

12/17/2002 6:00:52 PM
polarbear -- what do u do when your boyfriend promises you he wont do pot, and then does it and his personality changes completely. Do you back off and let him make his own mistakes or try to stop him, even when you know you're powerless now

Answer: You can not change what he does but only let him know how you feel. If at some point he decides he wants help to stop you can call The National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information at 1-800-729-6686 for a treatment referral. Freevibe

Does she know that refering him to that rehab will ruin his life?

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Old 2002-12-22, 16:35
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i remember the DARE program. It got me fucking scared of all drugs and it said if you smoked one joint you could possibly die because they knew we were young and stupid and we would be gullable to their every word(we were only in 5th grade) I think its a bunch of whore shit and im tired of it.

I only would smoke in a public place like behind the store where those dumb 18 wheelers go to deliver stuff or something where no one goes, thats what my friends do i havent done it yet but im probly going to just so i can be high and walk around through some cool stores and shit.

[This message has been edited by RejectJC (edited 12-22-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-23, 00:42
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Why do you guys get so pissed off at the freevibe people, instead of being mad at their stupidity and try to change there minds we should just have a fun time laughing at their completely ignorant and brainwashed mind because god knows we can't change it.
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Old 2002-12-23, 01:01
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At my old school we had a D.A.R.E program.

The guy in charge told us all these stories about doing drugs and how they would kill us.

One such story was the case of an eleven year old girl who had been convinced to inhale LPG (mixture of propane, pentane and butane gas). Apparantly, she inhaled a lungfull then stumbled around a bit and then fell over. This was because her lungs had exploded.

Bullshit.

At the time I thought that they could have exploded because of pressure or something (hey, I was 11). But after a while I thought about it and i figured that the only way the LPG would have exploded is that if her lungs had 3% LPG and 97% air and she somehow inhaled a lit match.

The sad thing is, we all took what he said as fact. We didn't question it at all. So this can result in millions of brain-washed young people.

It makes me angry they feed people these blatant lies.

gowerski

(edit: spelling of blatant was blant)

[This message has been edited by gowerski (edited 12-23-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-23, 01:08
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that truth shit sucks i think. cigarettes are not good for you. are there people that are out there that don't know this in america? also they try to make a big deal about the corporation's press releases and such. they sell a poison...they are going to try and downplay its harmful affects as much as possible. wouldn't you? i don't smoke by the way. also there magazine ads are lame. unlike freevibe where one minute you are reading a video game magazine next thing you know you are looking at 3 of the biggest joints you have ever seen.
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Old 2002-12-23, 02:55
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I think alcohol really is one of the worst drugs. i mean the addiction really creeps up on you. mom's father has scerosis of the liver, and is literaly psychotic because of the toxins that destroyed his brain. If the motherfucker had been blowin coke, all he would have to show for it is a runny nose. He could have done anything, and it would have turned out better than this. fuck the government for alcohol. fuck people who r against weed and stuff but not against alcohol. Its problyh cause theryre a bunch of hypocrite motherfuckers
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Old 2002-12-23, 02:57
2likestuff 2likestuff is offline
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oh yeah, my dealers dad is in the fucking army, kinda weird that his son is trying to kill him.
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Old 2002-12-23, 03:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Chronic-Smoker:
ohh if you people wanna get pist off by some of the replies people said about pot go here.
http://www.freevibe.com/boards/site/threads.asp?threadID=15





Have you noticed how there is not one post on there supporting weed? That's because those fuckers censor it so none of us get to say good stuff about it. God damn fags...
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Old 2003-02-04, 05:19
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Damn that web site you listed is fucked up

People can't think for themselves anymore they let the great government think for them.
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Old 2003-02-04, 05:35
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i bet these extremely stupid ads are used to get pot smokers so mad at them that they end up doing stupid shit...this obviously won't work.
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Old 2003-02-05, 06:51
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Someone left this message on freevibe::

K.itty Kitty -- Iwould say sure but then throw it out even if i wuold get in trouble I would be doing my friend a favor and if it was a person I didnt know I WOULD DO THEM A FOVOR AND SY NO AND JUST TELL THEM WHY AND WALK OFF
::::::::::::::::::

If they threw my shit out, I would beat some ass!
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Old 2003-02-05, 07:58
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lol, nice fucking "free"vibe site, you can't even freely express your views unless you agree that drugs are bad. One of these days everyone here should just flood their forums with the true facts about drugs.
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Old 2003-02-05, 08:07
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I hate that bloody terrorist/drug connection ad--it is heinous, pernicious. Even if it had a grain of truth in it--maybe, just maybe some heroin or hash or coke money goes to terrorists--but still it is an insult to patriotic American pot growers and meth chemists. Ironically, one of the few honest and reasonable drug education ads was never aired. I know, because I wrote and produced the thing. Here's the script: POV--a young teens bedroom, we see him in bed, it's night time--Voiceover--It's midnight, and Johnny's getting ready to make his drug connection. Then we see the kid sneaking downstairs and getting into his parent's liquor cabinet. Fact is, the illegal drug that most kids use first is alcohol, and they usually get it first by getting into their parent's booze supply. We mailed that spot (it was on 16mm film stock, which will give you an idea of how long ago this was) to every TV station in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania. No one aired it--offended too many people.
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Old 2003-02-05, 11:14
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quote:
Originally posted by ThetaReactor:
http://www.mediacampaign.org/mg/television.html



Wow.

I've never ever seen anything as pathetic and as plastic as that.

None of that would fly here in Aust. We tend to have graphic drunken car crashes on the tv instead.
 
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