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Old 2002-12-20, 01:38
one man riot one man riot is offline
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Default Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

Anyone have any stories with this? NO BULLSHIT, please... thank you. Just wondering about it.
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Old 2002-12-20, 01:59
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i have plenty of storys . About 2 years ago i use to do drama every single night. most people on here will tell you its shit and its a teeny bopper drug wich it is, BUT its also the closest thing i know to dautra that comes in a regulated form. See i always wanted to try a lil jimmson weed but the fact that i could hardly eat any of it and die turned me off to it. So along came dramamine.

anyways this is what i can tell you first of all it is VERY uncomfortable! this is why i eventually stoped doing it, i just couldnt take the comfort level of the dose i had to take to trip. At the end i was eating 24 pills at a time.

Ok the first time i ever did it i was at school, it was the morning and i ate 10 pills before first period (i was a jr in high school then). At first i started to feel really good almost stoned . Then that went away and i started to get uncomfortably heavy. Then really bad tasting dry mouth. So i put my head down on the desk in regret, trying to fall asleep. Bell rang i went to wieghts class i was trippin balls by then. I thought the black floor was blue and i saw bugs all over the place (dramamine make you think hullcinations are real, especially when you dont know what a trip is like) so i crawled all over the floor and slapped 'spiders' a friend asked wtf was goin on with my head, i told him so he took care of me sat me down and wouldnt let me kill myself trying to lift weights! Anyways mostly that day i saw bugs and desk sorda slide around subtly. I have learned its best to trip in DIM lighting.

Now out o f the hundreds of times ive tripped at night i have lifted my blanket and seen a hand come for my face, a phone cord turn to a snake, dead bodies on the floor, lil men walkin in fron of the tv and much more. Two very strong trips i took caused major hullcinations. Like i was standing pissing on a tree and it grew around me and got taller, this scared the shit out of me wich caused me to run around the yard to my friend with my dick hangin out and me not noticing, he was high and didnt notice either he was to busy talking to his 'brother' lmao. And then i was watchinmg fight club another time, and all of the suddens aliens like from the movie aliens were attacking brad pit and shit, and i watched this for about two hours or so.

So in conclusion its very strong but very uncomfortable. It also makes you tired as hell before i was a regular user i took nodoz to stay awake for it. I havent used recreationally in a long time but now the shit wont but me to sleep at all unless i mix some xanax with it.

have fun
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Old 2002-12-20, 03:01
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

Dude i used to trip out so much on that stuff.But i used to do Benadryl.Its the same thing.

The first time I took 15 pills im my room at night so i woudnt freak in front of alot of people.I took em and i didnt fell and thing for about 15 minutes.Then it hit me and it felt like a decent weed high.I remebered i had to do i report or my grade would go down worse that it already is. I wrote the whole thing.I was so proud of myself for acaually doing it.So i was in english the next day and i had to hand it in.I opened my binder and found a page that had my name on it and the name of it but on all the lines were scrible marks.I swore i did the whole thing.


The 2nd time i tried it i took 23 before i went to school.I got off the bus and as soon as my foot hit the floor I heard that song in the garden of eden.Just 1 part i knew playing over and over.I was getting pretty tired but i managed to make it to math class.I sat in my desk and the teacher asked me 2 come up there.I found out i couldnt get out of my desk no matter how hard i tried.So he came and started sayin something i coudnt understand.Then he started getting smaller and smaller.I coudnt help laugh at him.


To make a long story short if you take alot you see alot of cool things.My wildest was my friend travis who lives miles away came in my room and challeged my to a fight and he kicked me in the face and i really felt it.But i beat the crap out of him.

[This message has been edited by KungFuJim (edited 12-20-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-20, 04:05
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are you talkin about diphenhydramine hcl like in tylenol pm and benedrl? or dramamine? i took like 15 tylenol pms, and all i did was have a better time talkin to people, and i couldnt sit still for 5 seconds... everything was itchy and movin. i took like 12 beneadryls and all it did was make me drowzy. where the hell are these people sayin it makes you hallucinate? are you talkin about equate, or motionsickness pills? (dramamine)
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Old 2002-12-20, 04:41
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i got a story bout that. one time i was at my mom's and she had like a shitload of those motion sickness pills cause she works at some children's hospital. i never did them before so i took them back home with me and popped 15 them before school not knowing at all what to expect. i'll regret that shit for the rest of my life. everytime i looked out of the door of class, i saw a huge blizzard blowing shitloads of snow everywhere. when the bell rang, i was afraid to go out because i had no jacket, but luckily my friend knew what dramamine was like so he just pulled me out there and when i stepped in the hall all the snow turned into green green grass and there were little rodents running everywhere. when my bud got my books for me because i was too fucked up to do it myself, i thought i was holding a giant deck of cards and i started screaming about it. then my friend said some kid called me a fag and i totally flipped out on the fucker and started hitting him. then the authorities came by and hauled me away. i was in inhouse for 5 days because of that damn drug. it pissed me off. dramamine sucks. not to mention all the ankle pains i had. i had to keep flexing my ankle really hard to stop this pain i was having. it's a fucked up thing.
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Old 2002-12-20, 09:46
one man riot one man riot is offline
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

OK, these are all good, but my one question is, since it is sleeping medication, won't it nearly knock me out? and also, how many is good for a first time? I have the cheapo walgreens ones, that are Diphenhydramine HCL 25 mg. How many should i take for a decent (not mind blowing) trip?
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Old 2002-12-20, 19:39
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

It takes 6 of the 25mg ones and to make me feel drunk and heavy and uncoordinated, but then again I'm a skinny guy (118 lbs or so)... 8 or 10 25mg pills might be a good start (makes me feel all trippy, good for watching TV, with the occasional major weird thing) and then go from there.... don't lie down and close your eyes because it does make you really drowsy, just try your best to stay awake.

Edit: FYI, these were a generic store brand Benadryl thing, not sleeping pills, but they did have 25mg of diphenhydramine.

[This message has been edited by Squarepants (edited 12-21-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-20, 20:40
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To answer your question:

Although I haven't tried it myself (and I don't really intend to), yes, they make you very tired. Apparently thats one of the worst side effects is how dead you feel afterwords.
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Old 2002-12-20, 21:43
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

ive looked around at different stores here and they dont have dramamine anywhere.. wut store would have it? or wut pills are jus like it that will make u hallucinate?
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Old 2002-12-20, 22:00
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one time when i was moving away and packing my stuff, i found these weird pills, i don't remember the name of them but IM 100% sure they were dramamines only the high dosage ones like 300mg... if they don't exist then sorry maybe im wrong... so i took only 2 pills not expecting anything just to see whats the hell would they do to me... nothing happend so i was bored and went to sleep, i fell asleep almost instantly... and it was the most videst most real and scary dream iv ever had... i don't even know if it was a dream but i remember everything clearily still and it happend like 5month ago... i was fluying around my room, not really fluying but just jumping up and down on my bed and it was the greatest feeling, some song was playing with like the cooles lyrics was on and i was listening to it (later i found out that the song doesn even exist... but i still remember the lyrics) then i fell from my bed (still in a dream) and woke up, so i was wtf just happend, i really enjoyed the experience (it only lasted like 10 minutes) and wanted to go back to sleep so i put my head down and instantly fell asleep and this time i was just walking around my house making coffee and talking to people... i kept waking up ocasionally though couse real voices of people were scaring me...

so here is my trip in a dream, later i wanted to experience the trip in real life, so me and my friend each took 6 of generic pills, don't even know how many mg's, and got on the train and took a trip to another state (my new house) on the train i got really drowsy and kept falling in these "sleep state" holes it was kinda cool and the walls were breating but it wasnt too intense... next day hangover was a bitch and i decided not to fuck with them anymore...

but today i actually want to take the right dosage for a good trip... i'll post my experience later
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Old 2002-12-21, 00:20
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

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Originally posted by pyro918v:
ive looked around at different stores here and they dont have dramamine anywhere.. wut store would have it? or wut pills are jus like it that will make u hallucinate?


should be really easy to find at any pharmacy/drug store.... if all else fails, ask somebody who works there where it is. Or try Benadryl, they're bound to sell that somewhere.
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Old 2002-12-21, 00:59
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

ive tried benadryl before.. i wuz sitting on a chair and im like damn this shit aint workin.. then i looked at the computer and my vision got all warped.. then i tried getting up and it felt like gravity wuz pushing me down. i kept waving my hand in front of my face and it would be in slow motion.. then somehow i snapped back to reality cuz my sister came home.. but my face i guess looked really messed up like i looked dead.. she would ask me questions and i couldnt answer them cuz i forgot wut i wuz gonna say.. i sat back down and wuz jus staring at the window, and happened to look over, and i saw my sister looking in the trash trying to see if wut i took... the feeling wuz aight.. i'd like to try it again or try dramamine..
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Old 2002-12-21, 17:07
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

As pussilanimous as it sounds, I have doubts on whether to try it, as I've heard numerous horror stories of OD's, and how it doesn't even do anything. Basically all I am looking for is some reassurance. I've decided my dosage will be 7 25mg pills, and I'm gonna take em tomorrow morning. winter break! woo.
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Old 2002-12-21, 17:23
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I've taken drams multiple times, the first time i took them by myself, i just found them in my medicine cabinet and having nothing better to do i took 9, these were gravol which contain 50 mg dimenhydrinate in each pill, about an hour later i was drawing a picture when it started to walk around, i looked at my desk and it had turned purple, after this i was extremely tired and went to sleep. The next time i took them with a friend, i had 11 of the same pills, we went to pick up my friend's girlfriend. i didn't get any big hallucinations, just things flying in the sky, then when we went back to my house we got lost and very confused, we turned around fully like 3 times lol

and the last time i took them, i took 18 of the same pills, it was extreme craziness, when i didn't move my eyes there were yellow patterns that seemed to close in on me, i saw everything moving, and i saw gas-like fumes everywhere (wavy lines) it was crazy, i think i'm going to go take more now lol
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Old 2002-12-21, 17:59
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

Sorry for the amateur-ish question, but what are the main differences between dramamine and diphenhydramine?
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Old 2002-12-21, 18:33
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potency, 25 mg diphenhydramine = 50 mg dimenhydrinate

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Old 2002-12-22, 23:00
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took 23 25mg "ines" tonight... nothing special is happening, i drak some coffee to stay awake, sometimes i get like blured vission and screen runs away from me and stuff.. but nothing special ... i'll keep u in touch...
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Old 2002-12-23, 00:05
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Default Re: Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep pills)

quote:
Originally posted by one man riot:
Sorry for the amateur-ish question, but what are the main differences between dramamine and diphenhydramine?


Its not amateurish.
Dramamine is the 8-chlorotheophyllinate salt of diphenhydramine, means the potency is different(less).
I'm the resident DHM expert(self-proclaimed of course).
I'm 136 pounds.
To quote my friend Dube, "its sort of like taking weed, beer and alot of shit all together."
The sleepiness is different from normal tiredness, its like a part of you is tired and another part isn't.
Or atleast this is how it is with me.
6 capsules(25 mg) tends to fuck me up, I can barely walk on that much. I've seen shadows and rats and odd things on the walls, after smoking about 3 pills in a joint(hard to keep lit) and taking 40 mg orally, and/or taking a few up the nose.
I like picking an under-rated or under-used drug and extensivly discovering everything about it.
I'd advise against taking 10 at your first session. Take 3 first, then ease into 6.
Too many people take too much at first then complain about how its shit.

[This message has been edited by TheSell0ut (edited 12-23-2002).]
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Old 2002-12-23, 00:26
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Originally posted by one man riot:
As pussilanimous as it sounds, I have doubts on whether to try it, as I've heard numerous horror stories of OD's, and how it doesn't even do anything. Basically all I am looking for is some reassurance. I've decided my dosage will be 7 25mg pills, and I'm gonna take em tomorrow morning. winter break! woo.


dude something will happen , its for real
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Old 2002-12-23, 00:41
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this holloween i took around 17 diphenhydramine benadrly pills and was with some freinds walking around at night. my freind kept looking like a girl. a back pack i kept thinking was some one watching me. we only went to like 4 houses for candy it felt like we went to 45 houses. i saw bats flying in the sky, i kept getting confused as to where my skateboard was, when i was holding it. i ent up walking with ppl i didnt know
and they were like "your freinds are over there" and i said "okay" or something

another time i took about maby around 15 , i thought i saw a rat run up the wall but it wasnt. and other crazy stuff happend.

i also saw frogs, slugs outside. im my bathroom i saw there white bugs with red eyes.
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Old 2002-12-23, 02:14
one man riot one man riot is offline
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ok well right now its 11:15 EST and I took 3. ill keep updating, to see whawt happens. If all else fails, at least i know that tomorrow my friends are bringing over an eighth of northern lights. So ill get fucked up in the next 24 hours.
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Old 2002-12-23, 12:14
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quote:
Originally posted by one man riot:
ok well right now its 11:15 EST and I took 3. ill keep updating, to see whawt happens. If all else fails, at least i know that tomorrow my friends are bringing over an eighth of northern lights. So ill get fucked up in the next 24 hours.


3 loooooool... 3 is a normal dose almost, i take 4 everynigh for like 2 month now to help me fall asleep...

also yesteredays trip was preaty cracy for me 23countx25mg ... i had really good visuals but wasnt all that dilusional probly couse of my high tolerance to this shit...

i heard voices ocasionally, forgot where i was sometimes, when was talking to people had slutered speech and idiotic movements, like i was supose to go to the store but instead went in the room and stayed there for 15 minutes thinkin of what i came there in a first place for...

not VERY enjoyable trip but worth trying couple of times though...


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Old 2002-12-23, 15:01
one man riot one man riot is offline
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well someone told me to take 3 then ease into 6.....and yea, it did nopthing


except make me fall asleep

well today my friends are bringing weed, so no need to do it today
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Old 2002-12-24, 16:39
TheSell0ut TheSell0ut is offline
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Alot of us think this drug is shit, and alot of us don't.
Few of those who don't are actually intelligent and respectable.
Anyway, the drug doesn't make me go to sleep, it just makes me drowsy so I use it at night sometimes. It gives me a bit of an edge to help sleep better.
But if I take it during the day it doesn't make me sleep at all.


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Old 2002-12-31, 23:47
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ok..before you fuckin get skeptical
i experimented with diphenhydramine, and where most people feel like complete
shit nothing short of a complete suicidal experience, i was feeling suicidal
before i did the drug so i liked the effect of feeling like you were in hell.
SO i did this drug a lot. like a ridiuculous suicidal amount of times, i'm
talking fucking a box of like fuckin 30 pills of benedryl a day dude. And yes i
ended up in fucking a program yea im still alive but this went on for like a
month. I would say i tripped off this shit like 19 times in that month and that
is sick cuz most people do it once and fucking ritualistically grab boxes of
benedryl from shelves and stomp on them whenever they run into the sick shit
again. But i said fuck it. And I fucking noticed some weird ass shit.
OK> BG info, diphenhydramine comes from a plant known as deadly nightshade and
fuckin its called Belladonna yada blah blah not all the scientific shit is down
straight but this plant is associated with witchcraft in africa. Now watch this
the wierd thing is in eqypt cleopatra and other fuckin queens and shit did this
drug cuz it made your pupils huge like all black and this was supposed to be
like a beutiful thing. Now watch this. Fuckin when i did this shit not only did
my pupils get huge but chicks would like not be able to stop staring at me. I'm
not fucking around dude, i mean i get looks cuz they say im cute but when i was
on this shit t was like every fucking chick had to stare at me., And dude no
check this out it gets wierder. My facial features started changing, My cheeks
got more like defined my nose got like all like perfectly like sharp it was
fucking insane dude., but the fucked up part is it turned me into a complete
airhead., i had no thoughts running through my head, you actually hear a
sucking sound in your head that sounds like brain cells melting or getting
sucked into oblivion. The trip is the ultimate definition of "downer". But
check this out, it gets worse, your voice gets real deep but not only that but
you can scream like WAY TO fucking loud and you actually get that vibration in
your voice like a singer like it sounds good too like eddie vedder or someones
voice. So i have this theory that like all these people like Marylin Manson and
vedder and kurtd cobain did this shit. Especially Kurt I mean I love him like
no other but listen to the bleach CD> he has a song called downer and one of
the lines is "steal another box" but no wait it FUCKING GETS WORSE dude. KORN
life is peachy. The first track "twist" sounds about as coherant as a dog
barking when you listen to it sober. Listen to it on diphenhydramine and you
can make out sentences, meaning !!@! its so freaky its like he's saying some of
them came but none of them were right its like fucking SICK SICK SICK its like
you have to take off the headphones and fucking write down your thoughts. STAY
AWAY FROM THE DOORS on this shit., Jim Morrison will send you screaming down
the street yelling that the end is near. Kurt Cobain on Tourettes on In utero
sounds like a fucking barking dog like Korn too but listen to it on this downer
of all downers and you can totally hear insane shit. OH MY GOD its like
HOLLYWOODS little secret uncovered dude i mean fuck dude.
DUDE AND IT GETS EVEN FUCKING WORSE>
when your on this drug, at school, everyone around you acts like they're all
extra powerful, while you feel like shit, they feel like god. not kidding i am
not fucking kidding and you can like tap your hands on the desk and it makes
like a wierd sounds your fingernails become all electric.I KNOW YOUR THINKING
THIS MUTHAFUCKA WAS TRIPPIN NUTS BUT THERE IS A FUCKING SHRED OF SANITY AND
TRUTH BEHIND ALL THIS. I FUCKING SWEAR TRY IT YOURSELF AND SEE. if you can get
past the depression that this shit will lay on you. Just start singing or look
at your eyes in the mirror. and then listen to some NIRVANA and listen to tool.
THEY always talk about dissociative anesthetics. its like everyone in the music
industry always says how everyone is on drugs but i think the downers are the
ones their using whether it be diphenhydramine or what i dont know but before
you just say fuck this guy. let me tell you that i am not a fuck up dude im
like you too i research my drugs I do it for learning but this drug just
exhibited so many paranormal things that i could not say CAME OUT OF MY TRIPPIN
HEAD because it was other people acting wierd around me not just me thinking
they were acting funny. Dude this drug is wierd. The open pupils lead me to
believe some kind of energy in spiritual invisible whatever form exists inside
of us to give us power and this fucking drugs opens the door, lets it out and
you feel like shit but what you get is that everyone who looks into your eyes
gets this good rush of energy because their sucking it out of you and not only
that but you also get a fucking amazing rock star like singing voice, i mean i
am fucking convinced that if i had a band we could fucking make it as long as i
was on downers for concerts i mean your voice to say the least kicks ass,
people notice this from sucking dust off too but this is different. Anyone who
has listened to In Utero closely on headphones KNOWS that KURT had to be on
some shit singing Milk it And Tourettes listen to his voice on milk it it
fucking vibrates like insanity and dude im not gunna keep fucking talking cuz i
doubt anyone has read this far anyway but if u have., i just wanna say thank
you and I AM NOT INSANE i mean maybe i am technically but i am not talking out
of my ass. I was a smart level headed guy before i went into this and what I am
now I cant really put my finger on but this shit is wierd and everywhere i look
i see triangles, and i can stare at the sun without it hurting my eyes and once
i saw a pentagram in the sun and sometimes when i close my eyes i see THE STAR
and i dunno what kinda shit this diphenhydramine is but it feels like the earth
is sucking you in like you feel hella heavy when your on it. I have to stay
away from it for now but i would like to add that it is a commonly known fact
that Elvis was always using hella downers Good looking great voice....fuckin A
dude. The price of stardom is to sell your soul, if you want in get on
diphenhydramine, it'll cost you your will to live but anyone can make it with
this shit. All of the above was a fictional story made up for fun any mention
of suicide is to be taken as a story plot for your entertainment. beLIEve
 
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