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Old 2002-12-15, 06:47
BorisB BorisB is offline
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Default Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

I have a few questions. I read the article in the "drugs" section on Ampethetamynes but it was too consisce and didn't explain much.

1. How do you differentiate Ampethetamynes and Methampethetamynes?
2. What are the effects of stimulation of Ampethetamynes?
3. What are the damaging effects of Ampethetamynes?
4. What are the effects of Aderol?

any miscellaneous or elaboration on what you say on these topics would be awesome, thanks.
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Old 2002-12-15, 10:09
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

I think we all know where this is going to be moved...
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Old 2002-12-15, 10:46
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

Well, even if it does get moved, I ain't gonna do nothing until he learns to spell "Ampethetamynes" the right way [and I know the use of the 'y' is for a Continental effect, and it ain't gonna cut it with us.

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Old 2002-12-15, 11:17
ahriman ahriman is offline
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

Methamphetamine is basically a turbo charged amphetamine. The "meth" from Meth-amphetamine comes from the chemical name "methyl". The chemical Methamphetamine is composed of an amphetamine molecule with an additional methyl group attached to its nitrogen (amine group). A methyl is one of the simplest atomic groups which can be added to a molecule: it is a single carbon atom with a set of (usually) 3 hydrogens. All the methyl allows it a little better fat solubility and thus better penetration into the brain.

Adderall is simply a brand name for a particular mix of different "stereoisomers" (same atoms connecting at the same places, just pointing in different directions in space at one point in the molecule) and salts of amphetamine.
Th basic racemic amphetamine consists of levo- and dextro-amphetamine. l-amphetamine is not considered as "fun" as d-amphetamine. 10 mg Adderall contains:

Dextro-amphetamine Saccharate- 2.5 mg, Dextro-amphetamine Sulfate(USP)- 2.5 mg; Racemic-amphetamine Aspartate- 2.5 mg, & Racemic-amphetamine Sulfate- 2.5 mg.

That's a total of 6.3 mg of the straight base amphetamine (excluding the salt weights). Dexedrine contains pure dextro-amphetamine and is considered more recreational by many.

Dextro-amphetamine dosages are about 2-3 times higher than that of meth, in my opinion. With little or no tolerance about 25mg oral (equally to about 30mg of Addrall) should give a decent buzz. But it doesn't last as long as meth due to the missing methyl-group which makes it easier for your body to break down the molecule. Common duration for amphetamine is about 6 hours.

You can't really compare dextro-amphetamine to street speed since you never know how pure or impure street-products are. You can't even be sure the stuff they sell you is meth or amphetamine rather than a substance like ephedrine or caffeine.
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Old 2002-12-15, 13:25
Agent Boris_KGB Agent Boris_KGB is offline
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

I just want to know why this guy is using my name...
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Old 2002-12-15, 15:22
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

Cause he's a poseur.

--Malignant
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Old 2002-12-15, 16:33
Sivvy Sivvy is offline
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i feel bad for you agent boris. heres this dumbshit walking around giving you a bad name. bitch to the administrators about banning his ass.
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Old 2002-12-15, 17:06
Agent Boris_KGB Agent Boris_KGB is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Sivvy:
i feel bad for you agent boris. heres this dumbshit walking around giving you a bad name. bitch to the administrators about banning his ass.


I hope people can differenciate between me and him...And bitching to the administrators is not a good idea...
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Old 2002-12-15, 17:29
Sivvy Sivvy is offline
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everybody acts like they're all best buds with the administration. lol
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Old 2002-12-15, 19:20
dopeman420 dopeman420 is offline
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

ahriman, your posts are few, but your data are sound. word.
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Old 2002-12-16, 06:01
lpgeni lpgeni is offline
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

quote:
Originally posted by ahriman:
Methamphetamine is basically a turbo charged amphetamine. The "meth" from Meth-amphetamine comes from the chemical name "methyl". The chemical Methamphetamine is composed of an amphetamine molecule with an additional methyl group attached to its nitrogen (amine group). A methyl is one of the simplest atomic groups which can be added to a molecule: it is a single carbon atom with a set of (usually) 3 hydrogens. All the methyl allows it a little better fat solubility and thus better penetration into the brain.

Adderall is simply a brand name for a particular mix of different "stereoisomers" (same atoms connecting at the same places, just pointing in different directions in space at one point in the molecule) and salts of amphetamine.
Th basic racemic amphetamine consists of levo- and dextro-amphetamine. l-amphetamine is not considered as "fun" as d-amphetamine. 10 mg Adderall contains:

Dextro-amphetamine Saccharate- 2.5 mg, Dextro-amphetamine Sulfate(USP)- 2.5 mg; Racemic-amphetamine Aspartate- 2.5 mg, & Racemic-amphetamine Sulfate- 2.5 mg.

That's a total of 6.3 mg of the straight base amphetamine (excluding the salt weights). Dexedrine contains pure dextro-amphetamine and is considered more recreational by many.

Dextro-amphetamine dosages are about 2-3 times higher than that of meth, in my opinion. With little or no tolerance about 25mg oral (equally to about 30mg of Addrall) should give a decent buzz. But it doesn't last as long as meth due to the missing methyl-group which makes it easier for your body to break down the molecule. Common duration for amphetamine is about 6 hours.

You can't really compare dextro-amphetamine to street speed since you never know how pure or impure street-products are. You can't even be sure the stuff they sell you is meth or amphetamine rather than a substance like ephedrine or caffeine.



In other words: EROWID.ORG
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Old 2002-12-16, 13:51
ExtazyBoy ExtazyBoy is offline
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Default Re: Ampethetamynes? Methampethetamynes? difference?

you ididots the guy asked a simple question and you all started posting either flames or just copleatly of topic bullshit...

hey guy... it's really simple meth is just simply super powerfull amp... which gives you much stronger effects meaning it's more addictive and the comedown is also alot worse...

amp is used in some prescription drugs to tread adhd... like you mentioned addrall... sniffing it or eating it WILL give you a nice speedy effect and bur remember it's also addictive...

 
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