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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2002-12-03, 08:45
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subvertpunk 
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Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Ok, i have been giving this alot of thought and for some reason decided i want to go through with it. I am going to shoot around 10 to 30mg's of OC. Heh, ok well here is what i need help with. First of all where can i get a syringe? Anywhere i can buy one? Anyway i can make one? I have access to 100cc syringes (just what i need) BUT i know they are infected with HEP C. See my mom take interfuron shots and throws the needle away when shes done. Now i know i could bleach one overnight but it still worries me that it wont kill the HEP. So my question would be is there anyway to obtain a syringe, i dont know any diabetics either  . Another question i have is does it make a diffrence where i spike myself? I mean can i do it in a vien in the foot, or will that be less of a rush than the arm? The only reason i want to shoot in the foot is becuase i wont have to tie off and it will be alot easier for me to sit indian style and inject it without fucking up. Now one last question, mostly for Meta or the Rev. How fucking stupid of an idea is this? I mean i obviously have a fucking addiction problem (i can never stay god damn clean! although this time im doin a real good job of not getting physically dependent), so if i do this will i most likely end up never wanting to use opiates without shooting them again? Any answers would be appreciated  .
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#2
 2002-12-03, 14:09
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Fighting For Freedom 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Dude,
First and foremost I would advise you NOT to shoot anything up EVER - needles are for losers.....period.
Nevertheless, if you decide to go ahead with it, I suggest you seek guidance from someone who knows what they're doing and can be there when you do it to help you. This forum is the last place you should be looking for help.
I hope you come to your senses and do the right thing. If not, stay safe regardless...
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#3
 2002-12-03, 14:21
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Fighting For Freedom 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
What Risks?
Overdose or Heart Attack
By introducing substances directly into the body, either by injecting intravenously (into a vein) or intramuscularly (into a muscle) the body's natural defenses are bypassed. The effects of the drugs are increased and therefore the risk of overdosing (opiates or slow drugs), or having a heart attack (stimulants) are increased.
Infections
Since you have bypassed your natural defense systems you run the risk of infecting yourself with bacteria and viruses that would not normally enter the body. These infections can range from minor injection site inflammations through to diseases such as HIV and hepatitis C which will have a more permanent detrimental effect on your health and may kill you.
Poisoning
Many illicit drugs contain high levels of impurities or may be contaminated with dangerous by products of the manufacturing process. This can lead to systemic problems if you inject them straight into your body. This can range from phlebitis through to allergic seizures.
Injection Mistakes
Injecting drug straight into your body requires good technique and a knowledge of risks. Such as the positions of nerves, the difference between a vein and an artery, and the effects of different substances on body tissue. For example injecting into nerves can cause paralysis, injecting into arteries can cause blockages which may lead to limb amputation. Some substances are very alkaline and may burn body tissues.
Harm Reduction
There are ways of reducing these risks. For more information about the philosophy of harm reduction CLICK HERE
Safer Injection Techniques T o reduce this risk of overdose or heart attack use half of your intended dose first, then wait for the drugs to take effect and top up if you need to. Since many illicit drugs are concentrated in order to be smuggled or of an unknown strength a low dose can allow you to gauge the strength of the gear first.
Bacteria and viruses are all around us and your body has natural defenses to them. If you are going to inject into your body you should endeavour to try to minimise the risk of injecting these organisms.
Clean you hands thoroughly before starting by washing them with soap and water. Use a clean towel to dry them.
In preparing your drugs for injection heat the liquid until it boils briefly. This will kill many bacteria.Filter your drugs; having made a solution to inject you should filter your drugs to remove as many impurities as possible CLICK HERE for more information about filtering drugs.
Don't share drug preparation equipment such as spoons, tourniquets, filters, rinsing water. Viruses particularly Hepatitis C virus require only tiny amounts of viral material to enter your body to infect you. The amount of virus needed is not visible to the human eye.
Separate injection equipment for each person using. Use a new fit every time and don't share needles and syringes.Do not allow other people to inject you. Cross contamination with blood is highly probable. If possible inject yourself.
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#4
 2002-12-03, 16:11
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Mr.Fubar 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
I would'nt use those needles if they got Hep C. Bleach just kills bacteria not virus. So how would you explain how you got hep C.
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#5
 2002-12-04, 04:26
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
you must be an idiot for thinking of using needles contaminated with hep. c
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#6
 2002-12-04, 07:31
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kronikus 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Your right, that is stupid. And I won't help condone such activity. My only advice is NOT to stick that needle in your arm.
Waiting for Meta's reply...
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#7
 2003-01-09, 23:23
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antifreeze 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
What are you stupid? Go to Rite Aid, Walgreens, etc... Any Pharmacy type store sells syringes. I think it's about $30 for a box of mirco tip needles. Just say your grandma is a diabetic. You can just walk in and buy them. Used needles? Use your fucking head.
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#8
 2003-01-09, 23:27
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ScorchedWeasel 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Around here doctors will give out free syringes to people wanting to shoot drugs because they don't want you to get diseased, don't under any circumstances use the needles possibly infected with hep.
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#9
 2003-01-09, 23:57
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Heres what i think about anyone romotely thinking about using dirty needles. http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=4720
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#10
 2003-01-09, 23:58
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Damnit man **Slaps sense into subvertpunk** There is a high risk of vein damage, infection, and other shit from that. I have never injected a drug, nor will I ever. Perhaps you should reconsider. Infections are spread INCREDIBLY easy through needles. Thats why hospitals spend so much money on gloves, alcohol, clean syringes, syringe disposal, and cleanup every year.
My advice, since i am guessing a lecture isnt what you wanted, ALCOHOL SWABS EVERYWHERE!!! at injection site, on spoon, on tourniquet, on surface. Buy some disposable latex gloves. Wear them. Use a needle 1 time. They are disposable; not meant to be reused. Please be careful.
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#11
 2003-01-10, 00:01
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Lloma 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Go into a pharmacy, you can buy syringes from the pharmacist. I suggest buying 5 or 10 and saying something like you're on vacation and you remembered the insulin but forgot the syringes, so you need some... lame story like that will be fine, they won't question you. You could buy just one, but it's less suspicious if you buy several at a time.
I'm not advocating the injection of anything into your body. But if you're going to do it, you should be safe about it and use a clean needle.
[This message has been edited by Lloma (edited 01-10-2003).]
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#12
 2003-01-10, 00:31
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
Don't shoot shit subvertpunk, too fucking dangerous for anyone.
If you must know, how about heating the needle first over flame?
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#13
 2003-01-10, 00:34
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ExtazyBoy 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
i don't shoot and don't know anything about it, but i do know if you sterilize your sirenge/needle sirenge properly you won't get infections... but it's still better to get knew sirenge every time u inject
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#14
 2003-01-10, 01:09
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mrsmith 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
dude get real hey i will just send you some wof my hiv dude then you can just get it over with.have this shit for a day. you will think ..........maybe
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#15
 2003-01-10, 01:11
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
he wasn't going to use him moms dirty needles. although i wish you would go into treatment more or again. i can't possibly imagine what being addicted like that is like and i don't know if anyone can without being there. but i would suggest you seriously consider trying to be totally clean for a substantle amount of time. or at least buy a very big bag of grass and smoke that. also i am not generally opposed to safe injection. it's just not really my style.
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#16
 2003-01-10, 03:18
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D.N.S 
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Re: Need advice, planning on doing something very stupid.
do not shoot oc's
you can shoot heroin but dont shoot oc's
oh yeah use clean needles everytime this is where i get mine from www.hocks.com
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