alright, so today i smoked 2 bowls of salvia. i experienced no hallucinations. (i did however turn off the lights and it seems like the walls were slanted, and it took me like 5 min to find the switch)
After i turn the lights on, i feel lightheaded and my legs are really wobbly.
Then i got extremly angry. like just as bad if not worse than the anger caused by PCP.
Then i laided down and got extreme paranoia, and could barely sit still because i was so pissed off.

So my 2 questions are this:
Why did I become so angry?

and

What went wrong and why didn't i have any hallucinations?

With salvia im pretty sure yer supposed to eat it to get hallucinagenic experiences. i've never heard of smoking it but it sounds like u got fucked

Questions:

How good is your salvia?..10x standardized, regular 10x, 5x, unenhanced leaf? Is it from a reputible source?

Did you smoke out of a waterbong? Did you hold a massive hit for at least 20 seconds?
Did you put your lighter right on top of the bowl and cherry the hell out of it?

If you say no to even one of these things or just used unenhanced leaf...then chances are you won't breakthrough.

Try it again...and this time do exactly as above. Sometimes (mostly) the 2nd attempt is the jackpot.

you should use a "torch" lighter...

try it again... salvia is one of those drugs with the lovely "reverse tolerance"...

I've never tried salvia, but i have read a great deal about it, supposedly you're supposed to use one of those butane jet flame lighters, because the psychoactive chemicals in salvia aren't vaporized/released unless there is extreme heat on it. Try this and good luck.

~meaty

About your anger:

Salvia can take you in different directions. Mostly, people are so shocked from the ego loss and confusion that they become extremely scared. But if you didn't breakthrough, well I dunno why it would make you tense. You'll have to meditate on it.

One person I administered salvia to was so shocked, he almost became violent. In his mind, he couldn't beleive that we had done "this" to him. He though we had killed him. We had to hold down this 35 year old, 220lb hard-head construction worker on the floor and talk him down from going totally bonkers.

This just illustrates that you should definately have a sitter present. Salvia is no joke. Be careful.

I'm not sure about the anger thing, but I had a similar experiance. I smoked 2 bowls of x10 stuff from www.shamanshop.com and all I got was a little buzz. No hallucinations or anything. I understand that salvia works differently on different people. Some trip really hard and have a hellova ride, some just get buzzed. We are an unlucky few I believe, heh

-GreaterEvil

I don't beleive there is any "unlucky few".

I've administered salvia to over 20 different people and every one of them broke through wildly.

The bottom line is: you need to get about 1-1.5 mg's of salvinorin A into your brain.
That means that you need about 2mg's in your lungs, at one time, held for about 20 seconds (since it doesn't absorb well in your lung tissue and a lot of the salvinorin is exhaled with the smoke)

Maybe I'll give it another go. I hope you're right. Any suggestion on how much to smoke? I smoked two bowls and all I got was buzzed for a few minutes. It was x10.
-GreaterEvil

everyone i've given it to have also had strong experiences.
my strongest time was with unenhanced leaf but i smoked thru a pipe, it was harsh as fuck and i coughed very hjard which is i think why it worked so well. by coughing it rushed the smoke to my brain.

on another note, i'm about to try chewing the leaves, i have 24 leaves, will this be enough for a strong experience?

Psycho, undoubtedly, you got your salvia from a very good source. It's unusual to find regular salvia leaf that has more than 2mg's salvinorin per gram....which it must have for you to breakthrough (you would have to smoke the entire gram in one-two hits otherwise)


Also, salvinorin is distributed very sparsely and unevenly throughout the leaf.
It's possible to encounter a 'chunk' of salvinorin in any given sample of regular leaf thus breaking through. The rest of the leaf may have little salvinorin although.

The best way to combat this inconsistancy is to use standaridized extract. But if you can find a consistantly good strain of regular leaf, then hats off to you.

About the quid method: First off, don't expect an extremely intense journey from this. Smoking is the most efficent way to feel strong effects.

You should use about 20-25 leaves (8-10grams)
You should gently soak the leaves in water first and GENTLY romove excess water (salvinorin is slightly soluble in water).
You should first use a mouthwash to agitate your gums slightly. You need to hold/chew the leaves for 30 minutes WITHOUT spitting anything (this is hard to do). The effects should come on in 20-30 minutes.

hey, ill warn u in advance, this is a story, so if u got sumthin else 2 do skip it. i have smoked unenhanced leave around 10 times. at first i smoked it with a blowtorch.lol. cause i heard it has to be extra hot. i did this a couple times and said fuck it cause it was a waste of time to go thru the torch and the bong for a 5 second high and usually burn mysel. then one day im like aww fuck it and i smoked it with a regular bic lighter and got high for like 10 min. but like i said b4 after i put my stuff away the high was gone mostly. then i went and sat on the couch and was so worried about getting caught i couldnt stand it. (and this is coming from a very very expierienced, tried and tru stoner) so i didnt do it anymore. then, one day it was rainin and i was bored so me and my bro smoked some. trust me the expierience is WAY better if you have someone with you. i havent broken through yet, probably cause i smoke unenhanced leaf, anyone wanna tell me how to make extracts. but recently scince it goes away to quick and i dont get 2 much from it i have a qp and dont feel like touching it. any help would be great. i cant help with your anger. but it does make u do the stupidest shit like clumsieness.

thanx for the info nieztsche
i still haven't got around to chewing it yet, the leaves are from my home grown salvia so even if it aint that strong i'm hoping for a spiritual trip as i have spent a lot of time caring for my plant to get a strong relationship with her.
i'm a bit pissed of to I can't smoke anything atm cos of my lung and i just got my hands on some 10x oh well i'll save it awhile.