I love to roll with xtc pills, but mollies are supposed to be pure mdma right. well I have only taken once at bonnaro music festival and was good experience, the only thing was the capsule was filled with brownish powder and a friend of mine who has dealt with them more say the powder should be white. well I thought it was good, but I can't find alot of info on them(only tried erowid)still looking. at any rate widespread is coming to town, and am going to look in lot. anyone know much about color or powder, usual amount of mdma in capsule?, etc...

It think it can be brown or white, but I'm not sure. I know it is a white powder. And, I know I saw this old Boarder Patrol drug book and it had capsuled brown powder as ecstasy... It was old though, like 80's.

Here's a little more on capsuled MDMA

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Yeah... mollys are supposed to be pure white.

What you got was probably a mix of molly and Sassafrass (a natural cousin of MDMA... nasty, from what i've heard). Usually Molly is 0.1g per capusle... more if you get a good one. Also, sometimes mollies are cut with quinine (because it drys the powder out) to make bumping them easier. Bleh. Stick to lickin'.

Personally, I don't roll pills anymore. Just not worth it. Mollies are such a much more beautifully pure feeling.

Oh, and Bonnaroo was incredible... glad to hear you had a good time there!

Chances are is that the MDMA is just dirty. This could be due to the chemist not cleaning, or just doing a bad job at making it. Depending on the capsule size, could be '0' (500 mgs) or could '000' (150 mgs), it may need to be mixed with a filler to make the capsule look full. This wont hinder the effects. It just makes the people who think the caps have to be full to be strong, shut up.

I really dont think you can find any info on the web about this. Capsules can vary so much. Even with in the same batch someone could open it up and mix shit with it and then recap it.

Best of luck.

ive actually seen alot of sassafrass around the panic scene, so i wouldnt be surprised if thats what it was. i could just be dirty molly, but in my opinion its not likely. sassafrass will produce a slightly different buzz, and should last a bit longer though.

HSHId @ bonnaroo 2! (we hope, i couldnt take 2 nights of panic and SCI, but if they float your boat then more power to ya! see you in hampton 1/2/03-1/4!)

what getting high off sassafras i knew mdma was made from saasafras oil but i didnt know you could get high from it i got all kinds of those trees any one care to elaborate

"...see you in hampton 1/2/03-1/4!"

Ahh! I hate you!!

I wonder if Trey's going to play at 'roo2... he said in an interview that we won't get to hear any more TAB for another 2 years, so that makes me doubt it. And it dosen't seem like Phish would play it.. wonder whats going to happen...



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i dunno. i didnt go to bonnaroo this summer, because, like i said, panic and SCI arent really my thing. but, trey really seemed to dig the whole deal and so theres a possibility. but if phish did play it theyd need a new site for 150,000 people and phish would have to play 2 nights. we will have to wait to find out i guess, but i think it would be rockin.

and yeah, i lucked out on hampton tickets, still hoping that i can score a NYE somewhere. if you really want to go keep calling ticketmaster, theyve re-released alot of tickets since the first release, rumor says that there will be another re-release in early december.

hey man, if youre really into panic and phish and that whole scene and like live concert recordings check out furthurnet its a filesharing network, peer to peer, of all live and legal shows from all kinds of bands. i work on it, and its growing so fast. its not like kazaa or morpheus or shit like that. its completely open source, runs on linux, macs or windoze, and offeres mp3 and shn for download. soon we will be adding flac filesupport and ogg vorbis. theres tons of phish, dead, panic, sci, moe, etc. check out the bandlist for a complete list of the bands currently shared on the network. open source means no spyware, no adware, no gimmicks, just good clean downloading fun. theres even a chatroom! </shameless self promotion>

Back in my rolling days (it was legal until 1985) brown pills or powder were the result of cutting MDMA with Heroin. It was a nice, relaxing type trip but heroin was added becuase it was cheaper than pure MDMA by weight.

I don't know what happened and why extasy is so bunk knowadays (maybe I just built a tollerance after 400 hits or the trip is simply not "new"). But it seems to me that the X today is LESS potent than yesteryear (where's my cane?).

We used to use 00 caps with 150mg's of pure MDMA from Texas. Sometimes we'd snort 100mg's and then eat a capsule. Back then, you knew the X was good if you passed out first.

BTW back then, X was $6-$8 dollars a hit in small quantity and it was fucking good.

So...you should invent a time-machine.