ok, so ive been thinking. &totse has alot of bullshit txt files in its archives. people come to the site, read them, and then sign up and create a thread asking about one of them. then they get flamed out and dont ever want to come back. of course many of us can tell which txts are total shite, and which are legitimate. but maybe to a new user or someone who hasnt been around alot of drugs, they seem legitimate. so lets nip this in the bud, and go through the txts and weed out the bullshit ones. and then some of us can write legitimate ones and submit them, or find others on the web to replace them. sound good? so, if youd like to help go through the drugs archives and find the txts you think are bullshit. post the link to them here, and ill check them out and add them to the list to be eliminated. then hopefully one of the admins will agree with me, and validate our efforts, and help us clean this place up a bit and get some legitimate information out there instead of txts suggesting tobacco sugar nose plugs. thanks to anyone who tries to help out, in advance.

junglist- we should combine some good answers to questions that come up frequently

ie:
-pipes
-bongs (that hash pipe/bong thing that came up recently was interesting, the one with the cigarette and the bottle)
-growing
-expiriences (decent ones, like the recent AMT)
-drug myths

we'll be able to refer new people to these, instead of flaming and rambling on about how utterly stupid these people are...


[This message has been edited by CRaZyAmishMaN (edited 11-06-2002).]

I would be willing to help out with anything I know anything about.

some of them arent necessisarily bad. just point less http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/fl_tobac.html keep the ones that no one cares about?

pointless to some, but you go there to learn, no?

i just want to get rid of the ones that are useless many of them arent even legitimate. many are totally bogus information. examples of what id like to kill: http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/marijuana/164544.html
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/163146.html

or http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/163314.html

now we cant just kill ones we dont like or dont agree with. only ones that are total shit, or that can be improved upon. information is information, and it should be available. but recipes like "bury your grass for a month, and the smoke the mold" should be removed. just like huffing deoderant or getting high from lack of oxygen.

the reason im asking for help is because i just dont have the time. i work, have class, and also have 2 internet related projects im involved in besides &totse. they both take up much more time than &totse does. furthermore, ive recently moved and no longer have access to high speed internet. since one of these other projects is a filesharing network that i work with i have to run it most of the hours of the day, just to test new builds, work out kinks, etc. so this kills my fuckin low shit bandwidth (can you tell i hate being a fucking dial up customer now??) and doesnt leave me very able to spend all day searching through txt files. i will now try to squeeze in an hour a day, at least, to work on this project, but i can use the help. so if you go search, find files you think are questionable, or know to be totally bogus, just come back to this thread, post the title, and the link to the txt file. you can even use the title as the link by using UBB code. it would work like this: "[ URL=http://theurlofthetxtfile ]title[/URL]" this will make the title the link to the file. of course, if you just put the title, then the link, then skip a line and do it again thats fine as well. ill be keeping a personal file on my PC of files that are definitely crap, potentially crap, and so on.

also note posts in this thread that do not directly relate to this project will be deleted so please, for the morons, dont post here unless it pertains to the subject.

also note that i have no official word from jc or enigma yet, even if they deny me, i will keep this information, log it, and then create one ultimate thread in the end with the links to the bogus and bullshit files, so that we can still reference it. then i will archive it. so either way, we will be helping out &totse majorly, and carving our little names into its history.

[This message has been edited by junglist (edited 11-06-2002).]

This file and anything like it angers me very much:
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/163109.html

this is not true and is very dangerous........if u dont feel like reading it says that u take coricidin cough and cold pills and swirl them in a little water until the red color is gone and this is pure dxm......this is not only bullshit it is very unsafe for someone who doesnt know much about dxm.......lazy people who dont bother doing research might think this is pure and would think it removes the chlorpheniramine maleate(if they even knew what that was and how dangerous it is).using this substance would give the same affects as coricidin as it would remove virtually nothing but the color. dxm users that might think this is pure might go for an upper plateau using this "pure" substance and could end up in the hospital or a coffin.......I consider myself very knowledgable about dxm because i have done extensive research on it and methods of extractions and such.if anyone has a question about dxm i would be glad to answer to the best of my knowledge either via email or on this forum. The link included above is a big hunk of shit and deserves to be removed for being thouroghly false and so that people dont get seriously hurt.

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/marijuana/164544.html
i do believe i could write a more accurate price list for the whole uk ive bought weed from glasgow down to london i have friends in ireland and i do know my weed.
--edit:
ive made a txt with prices in uk� and us$ for both res and grass plus ireland id remote areas as well.
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made txt files for gravity bongs, waterfalls, lungs.
someone could do joints im sure someone is better than me, i prefer my machines for weed

[This message has been edited by laerif (edited 11-06-2002).]

[This message has been edited by laerif (edited 11-06-2002).]

I'll help, as I get time at work [faster connection].

I'm near certain Root & J.C. will at least be open to the idea, and you present it well.

Maybe if it is also pointed out that while freedom of speech is all well and good, TOTSE would better serve as a place known for accurate information and not an on-line 'Anarchist's Cookbook' [not that is is seen as that now: I would hate for it to in the future though].

i would also like to see some posts in the archives mainly on like nutmeg and dxm posts just post a link to the archive where the question has been awnsered and close the topic maybe start a topic with every fact about dxm and leave it here for bout a day let people add to it then archive it if we do this you can still close topics but still awnsering the question preventing some newbie from going out and doing something stupid also it would prevent the newbie from getting flamed and then posting new topics about how his topic was closed and the moderators are all nazis and also just put all informable posts in the archive

[This message has been edited by r0k (edited 11-06-2002).]

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i would also like to see some posts in the archives mainly on like nutmeg and dxm posts just post a link to the archive where the question has been awnsered and close the topic maybe start a topic with every fact about dxm and leave it here for bout a day let people add to it then archive it if we do this you can still close topics but still awnsering the question preventing some newbie from going out and doing something stupid also it would prevent the newbie from getting flamed and then posting new topics about how his topic was closed and the moderators are all nazis and also just put all informable posts in the archive

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1) that was one really long sentence..haha

2) that sounds like a great idea and i would gladly contribute

txts id like removed:
How to NOT get a DUI
because its fucking stupid.

How to buy booze when you're under 18. It kicks as

How to buy Liquor

How to obtain liquor when you're underage
the 3 above are all the same... wtf? and theyre fucking stupid.

Making beer
because ascii "pictures" never fucking work. and its from jolly roger, need i say more?

Proposed alcohol warnings for bottles of booze
because this isnt a joke book.

The ABC's of Drinking
once again, not a jokebook.

The Beginning of An Industry
because we dont care about his story.

The Bud Calendar. Drink!
cute, but, um... not informative of anything.

ok, theres the booze section. that should give you an example of what kind of lists im looking for here.



[This message has been edited by junglist (edited 11-06-2002).]

We definately need to get rid of this: http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/163044.html

For a start there are three "how to pass a drug test" files. Its worth keeping the How to *beat* drug tests text file but get rid of How to Pass A Piss Test and Ways to beat drug tests because they practically say what the first one says. Oh and there are links to the two later files that i mentioned in both the "legal issues of drug use" and "misc drug info" sections.

Oh and where to start in the nitrous section? First off get rid of Funny story about nitrous, it is totally irrelevant and its not even very funny. Also Whip Cream Fun has got to go- it gives a false impression to newbies. You need to get pure nitrous in bulbs or cylinders not by using the odd bit of unabsorbed nitrous in a whipped cream can.

Thats it for this post- but another will follow...

Chunkmiester

I have just three words: go for it.

Please post lists of URLs that you think suck, or are completely inaccurate. I will be happy to look at them, and if they need to go, fine.

Also, if you want to submit other information, use the SUBMISSIONS button on the left side of the screen. Submit your article, we are waiting!

J.C. Stanton
jcstanton at totse dot com

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/miscellaneous_drug_information/161631.html

that file is just dumb......its hard to describe how dumb it is......just read it for yourself

delete faq on dxm

because this dxm faq is much better

purely moronic, "get high on gatorade"

A search for Legal Inebriants inaccurate and rambling


how to make really fun coffee and cofee recipies can be combined

weird drugs smoking bananas and toad skins, need i say more?

cool text file on legal drugs and how to make them inaccurate, rambling, not all legal drugs, inaccurate, inaccurate, inaccurate

drugs in your medicine cabinet take 6 benadryl, 2 tylenol, and drink nyquil.

my nail polisher remover trip suggests inhaling pure acetone.

how to enjoy a good cigar not a bad text file, just not in the right section (OTC drugs and household items)

additives! half of this is vandalization/destruction, in the other half it suggests putting syrup of ipecac in drinks, and vinegar in eyedrops...

[This message has been edited by CRaZyAmishMaN (edited 11-06-2002).]

There are 2 files on how to make nitrous oxide that are practically the same. They can be found Here and Here. Keep the latter (http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/nitrous/nitrous.html) as it is formatted in a better way. Although saying that- it would be better to write a whole new text file on how to generate nitrous oxide gas. I used to generate the good stuff about ten years ago, i still remember what i did and what i used and i would be willing to write a new file on it but i would need someone with recent knowledge to check my method over (any volunteers?) because i am sure there may be ways to improve my old method.

Next up on the bin list is Getting Blotto with an Oxygen Head Rush, its total crap- also young people have been known to go into seizures trying these sort of things (asphixiation and the such). These things deprive the brain of oxygen and kill brain cells- not a good thing. Also My Nail Polish Remover Trip should either have a big warning on it, or in my opinion it should be deleted as huffing solvents do serious brain cell damage and in the case of nail polish remover there are a load of nasty hidden extras thrown in too. And the way it says "Nail Polish Remover is the best. I'm tripping so much right now" is total crap- if you keep the file change that opening part.
Now this file has to go, Weird Drugs it is almost copied word for word from the ACB which is no good thing. It includes all the crap like banadine, peanut rusks and toad licking, if you delete no other file delete this one.
Next is Xenadrine, although it has caffiene and has an odd high it really pumps up your heart rate and if you take too much you can really damage yourself.
This file needs updating- Cool text file... because its a decent database but some elements need updating and revising.
(Just a quick note- Someone else will have to point out the errors in the Psychedelics area and also point out the errors to do with the law section regarding the USA as i have little knowledge of such things)


Chunkmiester
Theres still another post coming...

the psychedelics section isn't too bad...

(actually, i have no clue about the synths...)

but it contains a lot of stories
(a stories section maybe?)

also, just edit your message instead of posting new replies (like i did...) to keep this thread nice and condensed (like i'm not doing...)


Marijuana Section- Can we combine the various bongs & shit? in fact, i volunteer to do so (i'll be including pipes) *afterthought, i will only combine short bong shtuff, (example- hooka text is long...) i'm taking the stuff with just instructions/ crap intros.

[yay! condensation!]

[This message has been edited by CRaZyAmishMaN (edited 11-06-2002).]

Actually there won't be- i have just realised how little i know about Psychedelics, Rare and Exotic Drugs and Speedy Drugs.

I may have missed a few bad files (there are always some that get through chunky's net) and if i have suggested a file to delete and i am in error please speak up- i am always learning new things

Chunkmiester

Edit- sorry amish, i will condense from now on (look! look! i've started already!)

Chunkmiester
-needs sleep, goodnight modss, goodnight regss, goodnight members, goodnight noobs, goodnight totse and goodnight Jim Bob

[This message has been edited by Chunkmiester (edited 11-06-2002).]

bump. come on people. help out. for real.

I dont really feel like reading through all the bullshit text files, but I know what I can do. I can go through the forums, and SUBMIT useful info written out by people in their names!?

Obviously I don't wanna get credit for anyone elses efforts, so I would just use their totse user name.

What do you think? Good idea? Bad idea?

Hey Junglist, are you asking for more people or (as it seems to me) are you rubbishing mine and CrazyAmish's efforts?

Chunkmiester

why dont you toss the speedy drugs section, then rename it to hard drugs. This way we would have a place for meth, coke, and opiates, and whatever else may be floating around im not thinkin about.

totse.com has served up 175,263,885 pages since 03/13/98.

Why would you want to dwindle that number down? You shouldn't try to change something to which you don't belong.

These 2:
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/165183.html
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/speeddrg.html

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Originally posted by Poindexter:
totse.com has served up 175,263,885 pages since 03/13/98.

Why would you want to dwindle that number down? You shouldn't try to change something to which you don't belong.

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isnt that the number of pages shown rather than the number there are? and i think getting rid of dodgy txts telling kids to do stupid or dangerous shit is a rather good i think, what is it that you have a problem with?

i dont understand your post, Poindexter, Lokil, whoever you are. do i not belong?

I honestly belive that alot of the content in the texts are CRAP and 50% of them are acually dangerous. Im suprised there has been no attempted suits on totse over some kid reading shit here and then taking 20 tripple c's, then huffing acetone and dying. I think cleaning up the drugs section is a good idea. Poindexter would you rather see this 1st ammendment stuff turning this site to crap, or would you like to see this site thrive with helpfull info like erowid does?

Ok and Jung this is a better place to discuss my files. After i write them up i will post them here on the forum for review and then subbmit them, that cool? I promise ill use proper grammar and a spell check .

good deal, subvertpunk.

and yeah, theyre crap. thats what this project is about. jc told me to go ahead and compile my list, so its going to be cleaned up sometime.

and the reason theres no lawsuits is because theres a disclaimer at the top of every file.

i acually found this site lookin for some stuff on DEX i was quite the drug abuser but even after huffing spray paints i couldnt see why anyone would fucking drink syrup so i came here and learned nothing about DEX besides you trip lol, i ended up going to erowid to get real info. But i came back and read most of the texts in drugs just becuase they had me laugin for hours!

K this is just a rough rite now, i just wrote this on the virge of the nod, so some of the procedure may be wrong even, im gonna have to go through and edit it and spell check it also so dont worry. I promise by the time i wanna submit to totse i will have a grade A doc. I kinda just wanted to post this to show im really intrested in helpin, and i wount be able to do much since im always at work but heres some progress!

How to Prep Time Release MSContins for IV

Well ms's are one messy pill, and they really arent the greatest source of morphine sulfate to shoot. I will go over that later though. First off you need a 100cc syringe the type diabetics use (any syringe will work i guess, but i will be explaing how to prep your morphin sulfate tabs with a 100cc unit) just ask all your diabetic friends if you can score one of theres. I have also heard you can walk in to rite aid and other stores and there just on the shelf. Now i dunno if you can legally buy them or what so bring em up to the counter and see what happens, if they give you shit then return them to there shelf. Now if you have no diabetic friends as a last resort just steel the gear they wouldnt sell you or raid your doctors office for one. I would always suggest trying to get unsed gear from your diabetic/junky friends though, so you can have your very own needle. You can bleech used needles but that is not 100% effective in getting all the disease out of them. Now time to prep the pill ! Ok so you have your MSContins they have a waxy outer shell and the pill also contains wax binder inside for the time release. Get a spoon (metal of course) then put your MSContin in itfill the syinge up with five units of water, then squirt those five units in the spoon. Now you need to hold a lighter under the spoon let the pill cook but dont get it to hot (or youll end up with a puddle of wax) as soon as the crap on the outside starts to melt away pick it out with your fingers try to get all of the outer coating outa the spoon. Now that most of the outer coating is gone keep cooking the pill at a low temp, you will end up with wax binders in the shit your cooking now, just try to get as much of those binders out as you can using a toothpick or something. Now you dont need to get them all out but just clean it up till it's lookin decent. You should now have your morphine sulfate liqified in the spoon it will be a little goopy than most things you shoot, if you want you can add 5 more units of water get it all a little hot again and then mix thouroughly, now your liquid should be somewhat more watered down. so youve cooked the pill. Next step is your choice filtered or unfiltered. Alot of people will just suck the morphine into the syringe then boot it. I know alot of people have booted MSContins as i described with no filter but that pretty unhealthy. So my suggestion is to get a ciggarette filter (non used that is, you do dope so you must smoke! go get a marlbro out of your pack and take its filter out) put the filter in the spoon it should absorb some of the liquid into it, thats perfectly normal, now stick your needle into the filter and suck up your morphine through the ciggarette filter straight into the needle. You just prepped an MSContin congrads! Next tie off, stick the needle in your vien (BUT FIRST always examine the needle for traces of cotton if theres any on it the pull it off, also its not as common for the cotton to get in the syringe but check! If you shoot cotton, you will end up with cotton fever not deadly but it does hurt so be carefull.) and then pull up to get a little bit of blood in the syringe, then push down on the sryinge. You should feel good about what you did! This is a nasty nasty pill to prep its a mess, and if you just succesfully spiked yourself with it, than all the work was worth the reward.

I said something at the top about this. If you get MSContins from the doc and you wanna shoot, see if he will switch you over to Direct Acting Roxy Morphine Sulfate tabs. They are much easyier to work with now wax or any bs, you just cook and shoot. Just a friendly tip for those of you who have a legit way of getting morph tabs.

NOW as i said it needs to be edited and re-read by me. BUT if anyone else that knows how to do this found i wrote something wrong in my procedure then please reply and tell me. Im sure i didnt acually say how to get the coating off the right way and i will fix that in the next version, but other than that the procedure should be acurate.

i am also thinking of writing a file for the opiate abuser with misc info. Like how to help kicks, wich vitamins to take blah blah. How to potienate opiates in diffrent ways liike i have learened if your in alot pain that mixing opiates and alieve or (naproxen sodium) really helps, if you just wanna get a nod some short benzos and a little diphen will help. And including some other things like how to get to sleep when you have over stimulated yourself at nite, and how to use opiates to get painfull jobs done quick by taking to analstegic does with anti-inflamatories, then getting alot of caffiene into your system to prevent the nod lazyness. I just have a buch of home tricks i would like to put in a file. Also Jung if i posted my prep file in the wrong place feel free to move it, i didnt know where you wanted me to stick it so i put it in here, i figure if you like you can move it to its own topic so people can remark on it.

just thought i'd state for repetition that this is a great idea and if ANY drug is left uncovered or under-covered in the new archives, i will gladly write on it.

Get rid of theis garbage-http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/weird.html. I know no one in their right mind will smoke toad skins but who knows, their are some crazy people out there.

I'll write an actually accurate file about OTC drugs. Then when people ask about them, we can point them there before flaming them.

subvert punk: even though i dont condone such a thing, it looks good. having never shot any dope before, ill just take your word for it.

the rest of you, dont wait, just write what you want to write. but start checkin the archives, and pullin out the few that you know are bogus and posting the links here. please

thanks it needs an edit before its done. I know many people dont condone such a thing but i remmber some1 on here wanted to know how to boot MSContin and it is a very messy pill, and easy to die from shooting if you screw it up, so better to be safe than sorry. no one wants wax in there veins!

Someday, Subvert, you will be the "godfather" of opiate abuse on this site, this is written. IDEA: Lets have a way for verifications of the various ideas in the txt files to be shown after the file itself. Like a little "see opinions" button.

a 'what drugs to mix and whick not to' file would be nice, i couldnt do this as i havent done enough but its always something ive wondered since mixing beer and weed was soo good, what else will go together.
laerif

look, im not trying to change the code here, just trying to purge the place of the bullshit text files. if you want to write a text get on it and submit it. but if you dont wantto help go through the archives and find bogus txt files dont bother posting.

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/rare_and_exotic_drugs/162467.html http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/163360.html

I don't know if these have been mentioned yet but they seem to be quite dangerous and extremely stupid.