I saw this ad for a 'voodoo magick box' in the back of the latest 2600. It is aparrently a small black box with a knob and a jack to plug these electrodes into. You put some gel on the electrodes and clamp them on your earlobes then twist the knob until you start tripping.
It seems to much like electroshock therapy to me but I'm as curious as I am skeptic about this lil product. (if that makes any sense.) I would appreciate any input you have on this strange little device that seems to do so many wonderful things without damaging you.
Go and see...
www.voodoomagickbox.com

Ous,
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Looks like a crock of shit. Yet 2600 is a respectable mag.....

Quite respectable...

But, yes, crock-of-shit did come to mind when I saw the ad...

If I had a better source of income I'd just shut up and buy it but...

Ous,
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30 day money-back guarantee!

Sounds good. If it really works, it might be worth buying it and/or mixing it with real drugs. If anyone has tried this, let us know!

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Originally posted by Dion:
Yet 2600 is a respectable mag.....

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LOL!

Actually that was just spillover from when this guy said he got the latest 2600...

heh im gonna buy it! ill let you guys know how it tturns out. I gotta wait till my next pay check but since it was in a 2600 i think its legit, ive also read of these machines in pysch classes. It says it helps easy withdrawals, helps insommnia and depression. Makes your memmory better and helps you focus! this is almost everything i need to get my life back to normal!! AND you dont have to have a hook up to get it

I used to work for a small company called e ov horus mind machines when I was younger. We would go to raves with a similar machine, except ours consisted of a more complicated computer and glasses that would flash bright light in verious sequences. While the claimed effects were similar to what the tesimonies on the site say, and while they were fucking cool, particulariliy if you were on acid, I'm skeptical you could get anything similar to real drug high. I would love to here from someone that uses it though.

I can't believe people are still falling for this. These things have been around in one form or another since the late 1800s!

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Originally posted by kosmo2000:
I can't believe people are still falling for this. These things have been around in one form or another since the late 1800s!

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Alright what exactly do they do. Lets have some ral input here. My friend Shannon is going to get one to check out based on the money back guarentee. If you have some info on this I'm all ears.

Well, whether 2600 is respectable or not it doesn't have any thing to do with the respectability of the companies that advertise in it. If the advertiser will pay the magazine money then the magazine won't give 2 shits whether the company is a crock of shit or not.

Chunkmiester
I think that you are simply throwing your money away

Your brain runs at different frequencies.... ALpha, beta, Delta and Theta i think.
one is from sleeping, delta i think...... 1 is for high concentration which is either alpha or beta..... 1 is for relaxation which is again either alpha or beta.... and i think Theta is creativity and memory, i think.
When i say for.... what i mean is that your brain is in this frequency for doing watever.....

What these boxes do and many others like .... i think..... they put your brain into this frequency...... Like the flashing lights... they go at a certain frequency, making your brain run at the speed. I think.
I have tried one out on the comp, and when i shut my eyes i felt them moving fast, much like in REM sleep... but other than that nothing.... although i really didnt do it for long.

I hope you understand this... i couldnt really think of how else to put it....

i think imma order one and see if it works. with a money back guarentee what do i have to lose.
i wonder what will happen if i left it on for like 5 hours or over night.

change my mind let me just quote this off their temrs of service:

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All VoodooMagickBox products are guaranteed against defects in workmanship for a period of thirty (30) days from the date of purchase. All sales are final and no refunds are available. If you believe the unit you received is defective, contact our customer service department for instructions on returning the unit for free repair or replacement.

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so basically, if its not broken you don't get your money back. and even if it is broken you don't get your money back, you get a new machine.

Always read the small print....

Anyway.... if u look back though these posts a couple of pages i think.... u will find a post about digital drugs.... it has some links to some downloads that claim to change your brain frequency.
I think it runs along the same lines.

A little Info on Brainwave machines...I would suspect they could be used to their greatest potential while on phsycadelics and possibly DXM for those interested.


Light and Sound Machines are devices which use flashing light and sounds to induce changes in brainwave activity. The simplest of these, costing as little as $20, consists of a bunch of LEDs hooked up to a timer chip with a potentiometer for you to adjust the flashing frequency. The most complex of these (I've seen them list for as much as $500) are full- fledged portable computers which can independently control multicolored lights for each eye, as well as stereo headphones. Some of them allow you to plug in your own music, and will layer the brainwave beat frequency on top of it.

These are available from a number of sources, including the aforementioned Tools for Exploration (call for their catalog), "new age" stores, science stores, and of course on the Internet. To some degree you get what you pay for, but keep in mind that not everyone responds to these gadgets, and you may be better off not forking over the big bucks until you're sure it will be worth it. There's also a shareware program for PC's called "flasher" (see Section 7.4.5) which does the same sort of thing.

The theory on these devices is this. What we call "brainwaves" are the overall resonant properties of neural networks which, to a certain extent, behave like oscillators. Like most oscillators, these can be driven externally, and in this case, the best way to do so is via the eyes and ears. Flashing lights are known to affect brainwave activity, as are pulsing sounds (especially when a beat frequency is applied between the two ears). Epileptics are particularly susceptible to this, and most people are susceptible to the so-called "photic driving" effect, which can induce nausea and confusion using only flashing light and sound.

In other words, flashing lights and pulsing sounds can potentiate oscillations in the brain's neural networks in much the same way that one pushes a child on a swing. At precisely the right moment, a little push adds to the energy of the oscillator and keeps it going. Light and Sound machines apply just the right push at the right time to enhance brainwave activity in particular frequencies.

Using these devices, one can potentiate activity at various brainwave frequencies. Thus far the most commonly discussed brainwave frequencies (or more accurately frequency ranges) are alpha, theta, beta, delta, and sigma. The presence or absence of a given brainwave frequency is an indication of mental state, and by inducing brainwave activity, one can enhance those mental states.

A quick over-simplified summary of brainwave bands:

Alpha waves range from 8 to 12 Hz (cycles per second). Alpha waves appear to be associated with meditative and hypnotic states and sleep. One study on brainwaves and golf (356) found that alpha activity seems to be a good predictor for accurate putting; others have suggested that alpha waves tend to occur while one is absorbed in physical or mental tasks.
Beta waves range from 20 to 28 Hz and appear to be associated with active concentration and thought.
Theta waves range from 3 to 8 Hz, and seem to arise from a hippocampal circuit, possibly with the help of a circuit in the brainstem (358). Theta waves tend to decrease immediately before volitional movements, and are probably an indicator of a closed feedback loop in the limbic system. The theta rhythm may help to encode spatial and/or temporal information (359). Interestingly, the prohormone DHEA increases theta activity (357).
Delta waves, 0.3 to 3 Hz, typically occur only during non-REM sleep. NMDA antagonists (presumably including DXM) greatly increase delta waves during subsequent non-REM sleep (360).
Sigma waves, 10 to 15 Hz, seem to occur primarily during sleep.
Gamma waves, 30Hz and above, may reflect certain aspects of the cognitive process.

Me remebers "super seizure robots" from when then Simpsons went to Japan

A little off topic but it came to mind. Music has a similar effect, its repetive beats cause a mild form of hypnotism, with slight alterations in the speed of the beats it goes unnoticed. Peoples brains natturally latch on to the rythm, peoples conversations will naturally follow it, there brain tends to follow its speed, although its not a total, its only a small difference. On drugs it happens alot more and is alot more noticeable. Say an MC gets on the mic, if hes good then he controls the train of thought, a drugged up ravers mind will follow an mcs words mentally forming images. Naturally without the drugs it happens but nowere near as noticeable.

I think this might be the same, the brains speed will naturally join the rythm of the lights, but not too an extreme level give the person some drugs and it will happen alot more. Add an MC and you can lead the thought process, add a hypnotist and you can lead the thought process, without them to lead, your subconcious will lead.
So if thats all true (which i ohnestly dont know im just thinking) then it would work but it wouldnt be a noticeable effect without drugs, and the same effects would be felt by putting on a cd. The thing is it would work but at the same time would only work if your already messed up and still might not make a difference.
In which case its a major rip off.