I wanna trip and get a deeper perspective on life. Im not a physconot nor can i get acid, maybe shrooms. But i was wondering what physcadellic is good for getting a perspective on things? LSA? Salvia? Mescaline? dex? Seriously im not looking for a buzz i wanna get some type of enlightenment from it. I guess taking it a physcadellic, while dope sick and going through the mental hell of withdrawal isnt a good idea, so maybe ill load up on vicoden or something. But i really wanna learn something about myself maybe why i started using or anything meanigfull acuaally. Is there also a good setting for this?

heh i spelt spirtual wrong in the topic and i cant edit that part

[This message has been edited by subvertpunk (edited 10-31-2002).]

well if you can get some ibogaine its supposed to be very helpful with addicts ever tripped before? if not dont even think about mescaline umm dxm might be good and very enlightining but many would argue with them if you e mail i can give you a reliable source for all the legal research chemicals like all the 5 meos and amt but i dont want to post it on a message board amt would be good i think but its a 12 hour fry and thats a long time

mesacline and acid are good combinations if you trip alot though.

If not stay well away, when I smoke alot and think alot about my life things can be become very spiritual.

meo chemicals can be spiritual as well especially ol foxy ;P

Have you considered Ayahuasca/Yage? Head over to erowid and check out the ayahausca vault. It has the added bonus of being legal to obtain.

For a little less "spiritual" and slightly more "objective" (I'm not sure exactly how I'd describe it) trip I'd go for some DXM. I've never had a bad dxm trip while I've had many hellish psychadelic experiences. It's also allowed me to see things a little more clearly and rationally. I'm not sure how to describe it. You won't (or at least, I won't) find God on a dxm trip, but you'll get a better understanding of yourself.

I've had very spiritual trips on DXM.

Do dxm with a few friends, you will have some deep conversations and you will think a fucking shitload about what's goin on in your life right now.

I never had what I would consider a spiritual trip on DXM. I've just gotten really fucked up. I've never gotten to fourth plateau, maybe that's why.

i haven't had what i'd call a spiritual trip on dxm, but i've had very introspective trips, and i have a feeling that this is what you're looking for. just don't think TOO much.

Mushrooms can cause soem serious thinking. Do some with some friends. Then after the most serious part of the high is over, go out for a wlak and have your friend[s] keep their mouths shut. Oh the thoughts youll have!

you should look at substances that have historic spiritual use... ayahuasca (or dmt and derivitives/synthetics), salvia, amnitas, etc.

BUT.... youre not going to gain any spirituality or profoud realizations about yourself by just doing these substances... dont expect to drink a cup of tea and down some seeds and get some intense profound effects just because you did it. most of these brews were used in coordination with meditation and other mind excercises, not just takin it and goofin off with friends about how theres a purple elephant on the wall. also.... many of these experiences can be downright fucking scary... alot of ego loss and realization comes in when youre trippin so hard that it scares the shit out of you so much that you dont know if youre about to die or just explode with energy. there is alot to be said for perceived near death experiences ('perceived' because you likely werent near death, but you felt it, believed it, etc.)

My first 3rd plateau DXM trip gave me a new sense of security with myself. It's as if I became more of a friend with myself. Like I understood my troubles more clearly and could rationalize them easier.

Just hope that when you find yourself you like the person you meet