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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2002-10-20, 04:08
Salo Salo is offline
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Default Low Quality Crank

Could one possibly substitute the benzedrex inhalers in Freddy J's recipe for "Low Quality Crank" with ephedrine pills from a healthfood store? And if so how many pills would it take?
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Old 2002-10-20, 08:56
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
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Topics like this are why I want to become a moderator.
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Old 2002-10-20, 15:00
skroat skroat is offline
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You could go out and get some good crank for less money then you would spend buying the supplies to make shitty crank.

why bother
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Old 2002-10-20, 17:09
kronikus kronikus is offline
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*sigh*

Short answer: Sure buddy. You can substitute anything you want in that recipe. Regardless, you're still going to end up with no-quality crank.
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Old 2002-10-20, 17:34
SomeEverydayNobody SomeEverydayNobody is offline
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moron
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Old 2002-10-20, 19:59
Salo Salo is offline
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Who cares? I'd just tell the people I'd sell it to it was good, they don't know any better, it's not like they're a bunch of crackheads. Jesus fucking christ post one thing and some jerk-off with a million posts calls me a moron, sorry if I'm not meeting your high forum standards for drug addicts you prick.
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Old 2002-10-20, 20:18
Tanna Tanna is offline
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"Could one possibly substitute the benzedrex inhalers in Freddy J's recipe for "Low Quality Crank" with ephedrine pills from a healthfood store? And if so how many pills would it take?"

*sighs*
The "recipe" is bullshit, and look at it this way if you must, could i substitute beer instead of bread to make toast? No? but they both contain yeast? Go through rodium and chemhead, understand it, then you will understand were the hostillity aimed at you came from.
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Old 2002-10-20, 20:55
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hmm...

<== pours some beer in toaster...
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Old 2002-10-20, 23:31
Salo Salo is offline
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Yeah well I just wanted to give it a shot to familiarize myself with the chemicals used in it's creation, it's like the first time I made moonshine it was total shit.
I see alot of people post stupid things in forums but if I think it's stupid I don't bother replying, and if you think I'm going about it wrong then tell me, I don't deserve this "moron" shit.
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Old 2002-10-21, 00:10
methmaster methmaster is offline
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I think we all ready did tell you..... by calling you a moron. and yes your friends would be able to tell because you tell them its good and they try it and its not. then you get your ass kicked and you wish that you hadnt ever asked this question.
 #11 
Old 2002-10-21, 03:46
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Listen up you pock-marked halfpint scumbag. I asked for advice, not opinions, so shut your dick holster.
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Old 2002-10-21, 18:06
kronikus kronikus is offline
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You want some advice? Learn to take some critisism. What you should have done first is researched and asked about that particular FAKE recipe and then you would have found out that you can't make meth from inhalers. That's why people are calling you a moron.
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Old 2002-10-21, 23:45
Salo Salo is offline
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I can handle critism, it's the outright insults that set me off.
If it doesn't work, say "It doesn't work don't bother", I don't fucking know I'm not a chemist, I just don't wanna go running around picking shit up just to fuck up and end up with a shitload of useless chems.
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Old 2002-10-22, 08:51
Black_Orpheus Black_Orpheus is offline
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Wow... you are a moron salo. Your posts belie(sp?) a lack of social skills and a short temper. And judging by the rapier-sharp wit of your postings, it seems like the drugs have been taking their toll. Selling methamphetamine is dangerous enough, but you enter a whole 'nother level of legal peril when you start manufacturing that shit(3-5 yrs federal prison.) You seem stupid enough to get caught, though incarceration would be a welcome filter on your faulty genes.
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Old 2002-10-22, 14:25
anhydroid anhydroid is offline
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Hey Black O and the rest of you smart asses. Not everyone lives in front of the computer and has a degree in Chemistry. Bet none of you would call him a moron to his face. It seems that you are the ones with the short tempers. If your too stupid to answer his question like a normal human being then don't bother. But to try to act big over the computer just because you were picked on all of your lives and thats the only way you can smart off to someone without getting your teeth kicked in. GROW UP NERDS!
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Old 2002-10-22, 14:33
anhydroid anhydroid is offline
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In my opinion that was a pretty good question. I had thought about that too when I first heard the recipe a couple of years ago. It IS a bullshit recipe though. The easiest recipe on this site to try is anhydrous meth for the common man. Everthing is readily available at any store except the anny which if you do some research Physically Not over The Internet
I'm sure you can find eventually. This recipe Does work and you will end up with a lot of good quality crank don't listen to these other assholes who try to do this push/pull shit do it ghetto style like a real man does not Nerd Crank!
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Old 2002-10-22, 16:03
PsychoTropic PsychoTropic is offline
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P/P is not "Nerd Crank". You clearly do not know what you speak of. Swim says the P/P is far safer, and the chemicals are MUCH easier to obtain.


[This message has been edited by PsychoTropic (edited 10-22-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-22, 19:47
MobDog MobDog is offline
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I ask you earlier, can you substitute the "anny" with R-12, how much? Also would the new R-134 stuff work, it's very cold also?


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Originally posted by anhydroid:
In my opinion that was a pretty good question. I had thought about that too when I first heard the recipe a couple of years ago. It IS a bullshit recipe though. The easiest recipe on this site to try is anhydrous meth for the common man. Everthing is readily available at any store except the anny which if you do some research Physically Not over The Internet
I'm sure you can find eventually. This recipe Does work and you will end up with a lot of good quality crank don't listen to these other assholes who try to do this push/pull shit do it ghetto style like a real man does not Nerd Crank!



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Old 2002-10-22, 20:32
GhettoJ GhettoJ is offline
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No,It's not how cold it is its that it reacts with an alkaline metal
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Old 2002-10-22, 21:35
Salo Salo is offline
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Thanks Anhydroid, but there are no farms where I live and thus no anhydrous ammonia tanks, would Joker_187's recipe be an effective alternative?
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Old 2002-10-23, 19:31
justcurious justcurious is offline
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if you use ephedrine youll just get a big old headache from the shit
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Old 2002-10-23, 19:40
Old Sammy Old Sammy is offline
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What the fuck is ur guys problems, he asked a simple question and then 10 of you right off the bat start talking shit. Get something better to do than sit around talking about drugs on the fucking internet...
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Old 2002-10-24, 00:52
justcurious justcurious is offline
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you know what you need to shut the fuck up.if you dont like the subject,get the hell out of this room!youve made now 2 replys....shut the fuck up!
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Old 2002-10-24, 02:18
methmaster methmaster is offline
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its fucking idiotic because he DID absolutley NO research before asking this question. This question has been answered 100 billion fucking time. we are not here to do your work for you.
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Old 2002-10-24, 03:09
djsam djsam is offline
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Yes potential members, this type of thread is exactly what you can expect!

Cool people being outnumbered by idiots, idiots being to stupid to realize how stupid they look...

Yes potential members, this type of exciting conversation is exactly what to expect here at Bombshock, err, totse.

Hope to see you in the fall!
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Old 2002-10-24, 06:58
Salo Salo is offline
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Methmaster, as a matter of fact I went over all the recipes on this site as well as others, I even perused the forum for about an hour for info before posting my question. Stop acting like I asked how to make crank, I asked if I could substitute one chem for another in a recipe that turned out to be bogus anyway. So can you all just STFU with your self righteous bullshit? This is a public forum.

Thanks to everyone who stuck up for me.
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Old 2002-10-24, 11:43
Tanna Tanna is offline
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This thread is a depressing view of whats happening to Totse. Junglist please.
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Old 2002-10-24, 20:34
Salo Salo is offline
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Oh STFU you elitist cocksucker. I wish they would just close this fucking thread so I don't have to see you pious fucks whine anymore.
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Old 2002-10-25, 04:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Salo:
Oh STFU you elitist cocksucker. I wish they would just close this fucking thread so I don't have to see you pious fucks whine anymore.


And another newbie fumbles his one chance at making a first impression.

Apparently none of them realize that it's their early posts thatare going to set the tone and determine how others are going to interact with them.
 #30 
Old 2002-10-25, 20:29
lpgeni lpgeni is offline
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To those who say that Salo should have researched before asking, this forum is to exchange information, discuss opinions and stuff, not to say that u should rather research the whole web, be a chemist, have a lab, and connections too pharmacys before asking. If u are/have all that then share a your trustable opinion/advise instead of rejecting others.
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Old 2002-10-25, 22:24
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So what Metaphysicist? I should just bend over and take your shit? I've seen people with 500+ posts ask newbie questions before but they don't get the flack I have to put up with because you know them already.
Nice setup you got here, you chastise people for asking questions, then you take offence when they retort.
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Old 2002-10-26, 10:05
Tanna Tanna is offline
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Actually, you asked a question which to those who know is retarded, with a small amount of research and understanding you would have realised that. Its the same as asking, does 2+2=5? No, and your the 15th millionth person to ask. Now when someone flames you for asking the question, you flipped, you diddnt take the flames or criticism on boar, you just flipped and started complaining about how people shouldnt flame you etc... Then you go on to personal insults.
You should have asked the question, received the remarks, taken them onboard, read the shit I pointed you to, then came back and appoligized for asking a retarded question. But instead we have god knows how many other newbies going with you saying how bad this place is for not answering your question, i am not going to post anymore, do what you will, But i for one will not give you personally any advice.
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Old 2002-10-26, 10:40
lpgeni lpgeni is offline
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Actually i wondered if the recipe would make Ephedrine Hydrocloride and the term for that would be "Half-ass crank" which is very logical. So the real argument is not whether Salo`s question was retarded its what "Half-ass crank" is.
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Old 2002-10-26, 10:43
lpgeni lpgeni is offline
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Quote:
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Actually i wondered if the recipe would make Ephedrine Hydrocloride and the term for that would be "Half-ass crank" which is very logical. So the real argument is not whether Salo`s question was retarded its what "Half-ass crank" is.
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Old 2002-10-26, 12:56
Tanna Tanna is offline
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...and what you just said is even more retarded.

Ephedrine is not any form of crank, crank is a slang name for methamphetamine, ephedrine is very different from methamphetamine, its an entirely different chemical. Although its chemical makeup is simular, which is why it is used in some meth. synths.
Yes ephedrine is a very, very mild stimulant and methamphetamine is a stimulant, but if thats your logic, is every stimulant a form of crank? has the term crank now changed to cover all stimulants? Should i now go to starbucks and ask for a cup 1/100th arse crank juice please?

Now to even assume in any way you would be making ephedrine is beyond understanding. Why would you possibly think you would be making E? What possible logic took you there?

Im gonna help you out with your thought process, you shouldnt look at chem synth as a recipe because its not that simple. But for now think of it that way. eg.

A recipe for beer cannot be changed to make bread simply by changing one ingredient, and that is in the simplest form you can look at it. Now to consider to attempt a chem. synth. you must do everything exact, everything is done for a reason, without one thing, or one thing being slightly off you could go boom! or create a chem which is of no use, or poison someone. You need to know exactly what to do, now thats the ghetto way.

To do it properly and reletively safely, you need to not only be exact, but you need to understand whats happening, why its happening, why your doing each thing, you need to be able to understand everything to do with it.
To come spurting information and questions like you have, means you have absolutely no understanding of what you want to accomplish, it would take about 30minutes of research and looking around to figure out that "receipe" is bullshit, why its bullshit and to find one which isnt, and why it isnt. Then with that small piece of knowledge you would be on your way, you could ask questions which wouldnt make people want to shit in your mouth. Your new, and im being extremely nice. I am by no means the expert here, although i know enough to get by, If i remember correctly the first question i asked was,

"can anyone point me in the dirrection to an amphetamine synth, ive seen alot of methamphetamine synths, but i cant seem to find any plain old amphetamine synths. Any help much appreciated."

Now that is a stupid question, im ashamed i would ask such a stupid thing. But people helped me and pointed me to the right places. Now i understand what its like to Bee a newBee. But your posts are retarded, so retarded in fact i cant believe i even tried to help you, and in return you get on a high horse, you know what, fuck you, and to all the other people who joined you, fuck you to.
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Old 2002-10-26, 16:38
lpgeni lpgeni is offline
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Since there isn`t no official term of what "half-ass crank" is, assuming its another chemical witch has effects in common, makes sense. So i bow my head to the inventer of "half-ass crank" and say i have misunderstood your slang(Sarcasme!!!!!!). I have heard of people sniffing lighter gas and referring that to be drunk- and i dont mean that the logical slang for ephedrineHCL would be "half-ass crank", i mean that the logic is that freddy j`s slang of ephedrineHCL is "half-ass crank". I knew that the recipe was bull if if was supposed to make crank, meth, speed, but instead i wondered if would make smokable ephedrineHCL!. By the way thanks for the illustrating guide on how to ask and the very original way of swearing uve got going(sarcasme!).
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Old 2002-10-26, 19:22
Salo Salo is offline
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Tanna, your stupid flames are too long to read, sorry I didn't follow your "proper board procedure" you geek. What's Totse stand for anyway? Temple of the Social Elitists?
 
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