Well i have really hard time going to sleep couse i drink to much coffe, so i decided to start using sleeping pills, i used them before but usually just to catch a small buzz, but right now i reall need them, i was wondering if there is any damage that they cause, i know about tollerance and acp that contains in tylenol pm, are they dangerous to use overally...

they give a really nice buzz.. i'm feel mad good now

Diphenhydramine tolerance builds quickly, switch to Valerian, the buzz is better, and it is easier for your liver to break down. Watch out tho', what starts with caffeine and otc downers often ends with speed and mexican quaaludes.

dude im in your same position. i need to pop about 3-4 excedrin pm a nite, or 5-6 tylenolpm. i think imma have to buy some valerian or sleeping pills. i have to much tolerance.

For god sakes don't pop 5-6 Tylenol P.M.'s nightly. Get Unisom or dramamine if you need the diphenhydramine to sleep.

why don't u just try to do something relaxing to help you sleep. it is not that smart to pop all those pills. just try to go a week or so with out them so your tolerence goes down. that way you can take them if you need them.

than i cant get to sleep till like 2 or 3 in the morning. i just got a job and i LIKE waking up around 9 or 10. i need close to 8 hours to feel good. would valerian be a could substitute? my livers probably cashign ouyt cause all the ampthemamine or whatever its called thats in tylenol and excedrin PM

Acetaminophen in tylenol does fuck with your liver, and I advise against it in high doses.

Go to the doctor and get some ambien.
puts me right to sleep, and I dont wake up groggy like with the otc stuff.

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Originally posted by culinaryoverlord:
Diphenhydramine tolerance builds quickly, switch to Valerian, the buzz is better, and it is easier for your liver to break down. Watch out tho', what starts with caffeine and otc downers often ends with speed and mexican quaaludes.

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Diphenhydramine will work fine if you go a day with out takeing it and then take two the next day. I've been takeing it for a few months, almost daily for: allergy control, sleep aid, and a hallucinogen.

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Originally posted by slimpyman:
than i cant get to sleep till like 2 or 3 in the morning. i just got a job and i LIKE waking up around 9 or 10. i need close to 8 hours to feel good. would valerian be a could substitute? my livers probably cashign ouyt cause all the ampthemamine or whatever its called thats in tylenol and excedrin PM

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Valerian root is a great alternative, I have a friend who uses it all the time.