About
Community
Bad Ideas
Drugs
Ego
Erotica
Fringe
Society
Technology
register | bbs | search | rss | faq | about
meet up | add to del.icio.us | digg it
Go Back   Community > Vices > Better Living Through Chemistry
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 #1 
Old 2002-10-13, 02:26
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default making ghb

about making GHB, i was wondering how easy it is, and if the following works to make GHB.

i found this in an old post:

Yes, foreign companies will readily ship you Gamma Butyrolactone (GBL), advertising it as paint remover, polish remover, etc.
They know what you're going to use it for!

It is pretty useless by itself; you'll want to convert it to GHB with Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) or Potassium Hydroxide (KOH). I very strongly recommend the Potassium Hydroxide. The end product is VERY high in Sodium or Potassium. Large amounts of Sodium is very bad for most people, but large amounts of Potassium (within reason) is actually good!


The formulas tell you to use 91 g KOH for every 120 ml GBL. They don't tell you this 91 g assumes you're using the commercial, impure KOH. If you had 100% pure KOH, you'd want to use 88.0 g (yes, I figured it out myself). 91 g of high-quality KOH will give you a slightly overly-alkaline product (8.0+ vs. 7.5). The high-quality KOH is certainly not 100%, it's somewhere in between. So 89 g is a good guess for how much of the high-quality KOH to use. It will also taste MUCH better than if made with 91 g!

This is probably one if the the simplest
'interesting' chemicals you can make. The
kitchen formulas do not adequately warn you of the dangers of the hydroxides, however. You MUST wear goggles -- one splash and you're fucking blind for life. Major bummer. Incredible heat is generated when you simply pour the hydroxide into water - a normal glass vessel would likely break - use borosilicate glass (Pyrex, etc.)

Will this work to make GHB? Also, what types of stores could i get Potassium Hydroxide at? or would i have to mail order it?
 #2 
Old 2002-10-13, 03:21
SSP SSP is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

Why not simply use NaOH? Its much more readily available.
 #3 
Old 2002-10-13, 03:26
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

where can i get NaOH at?
do stores sell it, or would i have to order it? i know my school has tons of it and i could prolly steal some. (maybe not cuz they watch me like lil secret agents cuz they know i keep stealing their scales)
 #4 
Old 2002-10-13, 03:31
Godfuck Godfuck is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

you could get it from any chemical supplier I'd imagine
 #5 
Old 2002-10-13, 03:38
SSP SSP is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

Well, im not sure how pure the NaOH needs to be in regards to synthesis of GHB, but in any supermarket, you can buy anhydrous crystals AKA lye, lol. These are 98%-99% NaOH, though im not sure how pure its needs to be. Perhaps we can get some help from someone else?
 #6 
Old 2002-10-13, 03:41
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

Will NaOH work inplace of the KOH? Or would I have to find another way to make GHB? I know there are lots of different ways. (Not lots seperatly, but lots of variations)
 #7 
Old 2002-10-13, 04:05
GhettoJ GhettoJ is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

NaOH will work
 #8 
Old 2002-10-13, 04:52
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

im retarded it said it in the fucking quote. god im stupid. alright.
 #9 
Old 2002-10-13, 17:38
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

on chemhead is says "Place 30 grams of pure NaOH (do not use lye!) "
ahhh what do i do now?
 #10 
Old 2002-10-13, 18:44
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

Weren't most of those sites selling gbl shut down recently?
 #11 
Old 2002-10-13, 19:10
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

most of them are over seas.
 #12 
Old 2002-10-13, 19:51
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

I have scoped out some sites and now have a thouroughly wicked gleam in my eye, please tell me how this goes for you.
 #13 
Old 2002-10-13, 21:09
KarlMaloneSay KarlMaloneSay is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

hmm...you know they sell kits for about 50 dollars form the netherlands with all the ingredients to make GHB/Rohypnol...wait a minute...are they the same thing or no? arent they both date rape drugs?
 #14 
Old 2002-10-13, 22:18
dopeman420 dopeman420 is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

both date rape drugs, not the same one.
 #15 
Old 2002-10-14, 16:03
KarlMaloneSay KarlMaloneSay is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

quote:
Originally posted by dopeman420:
both date rape drugs, not the same one.


KarlMalone feel stupid

 #16 
Old 2002-10-14, 17:47
kronikus kronikus is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

quote:
Originally posted by 40ozTOfreedom:
on chemhead is says "Place 30 grams of pure NaOH (do not use lye!) "
ahhh what do i do now?



You can use lye, just don't expect a pure product.
 #17 
Old 2002-10-14, 19:08
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

i think imma try to make the powder ghb tonight. the only thing i don't know what to do about is that the powder obsorbes moisture in the air, and your supose to keep it in air tight cotainer.
anyone got an idea on how i can make one?
 #18 
Old 2002-10-14, 22:56
antifreeze antifreeze is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

Don't use lye. I was going to make ghb a while ago and found legit business in the U.S. to order the chemicals from. A simple yahoo search would solve this problem.
 #19 
Old 2002-10-15, 06:31
abstractAffect abstractAffect is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: making ghb

links ?
 
To the best of our knowledge, the text on this page may be freely reproduced and distributed.
 

totse.com certificate signatures
 
 
About | Community | Bad Ideas | Drugs | Ego | Erotica | Fringe | Society | Technology
Hot Topics