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Old 2002-10-06, 02:25
Chunkmiester Chunkmiester is offline
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Default Staying Awake....

All health issues aside (like sleep deprivation) is there any chemical (drug) that i could take that would help me to stay awake for long periods of time- i am talking about 4 or 5 days. I know that stimulants like caffiene should work but i drink three or four cups of coffee a day anyway and i think that i am developing a tolerance to it.

Chunkmiester
(btw its for a sponsered stay-awake for charity and i determined to raise the most money this year)
Also- i will not use hard drugs like amphetimines or speed for obvious legality issues
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Old 2002-10-06, 02:29
40ozTOfreedom 40ozTOfreedom is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

uhm, if you don't wanna use speed, then use caffine. or try... http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/coffee.html

if i were you id use ritalin, and if people will be there you could swallow them like normal and say you have add.
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Old 2002-10-06, 02:53
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
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Find some non drowsy cold medication with ephedrine in it, staying awake for charity eh', that is pretty rightious, too bad you can't do meth, you would blow their doors off. Good luck!
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Old 2002-10-06, 05:27
Chunkmiester Chunkmiester is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Thanks for the responses- even though i suspect that 40oz didn't actually read all of my first post where i stated that i think i am developing a tolerance for caffeine, no matter.

So then- ritalin (need to do some research on that one) and ephedrine, any other ideas people- even staying awake tips would be great.

Chunkmiester
Oh and btw- with the per day pledges that i have recieved i would have to stay awake for 9 days to beat the standing record (�1500)for raised money from a single person- do you think i would develop a tolerance to ephedrine or ritalin in that time? Or even worse some sort of addiction?

EDIT:Typo

[This message has been edited by Chunkmiester (edited 10-06-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-06, 08:23
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Ephedrine would stop working after about 2 days, ritalin would keep you going for five or six but by then you would be taking 6 or 7 pills every 3-4 hours. Stimulants like any other drug are sublect to the law of diminishing returns, that is to say, the more you take, the more it takes. Nine days tho', holy shit, if you could do it without any drugs you would probibly set some kind of a record.
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Old 2002-10-06, 09:53
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fyi, the longer you stay awake the greater the halluciations, based on my experiances ...i went on a meth and adderall binge when finals came around and i got stronger visuals than I ever had, even from high grade acid...my table was melting and whatnot..it was insane. But i wouldn't stay awake unless you really wanted/needed to, because the crash is pretty rough and your brain checks out even though the rest of your body is still chugging along...after staying up for two days i stupidly sped down some road 30 miles over the speed limit running all the red lights when some cops pulled me over. I was yelling at them, telling them to shove it and whatnot...then i started telling them about problems with my parents...weird. I normally would never do anything like this. i really suprised myself on that one.
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Old 2002-10-06, 15:33
chemmy_chemmy_420 chemmy_chemmy_420 is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

acid will do it
so will E
cryst meth will too
other drugs mite...these are the ones that i only no keep you awake tho
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Old 2002-10-06, 15:34
kingenrage kingenrage is offline
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bring ur favorite video game with u.
or pretend ur not sleeping
or find a pussy u could fuck for ever
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Old 2002-10-06, 16:26
Chunkmiester Chunkmiester is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Cheers for the tips people. A couple of my mates are doing similar things as well (ain't it great when your best mates work at the same office as you) anyway- hopefully we will be able to keep each other awake. I was searching the net for tips on staying awake and came across the guiness world record for staying awake which was something ridiculas like 400 hours (about 17 days), the bloke did it by meditating but reported that by the 10th day he was getting delusional. I don't have enough time to learn how to meditate and do yoga and that so i might go for the ephedrine if its non addictive.

Chunkmiester
Oh and Kingenrage- "pretend ur not sleeping" how would i be able to do anything conciously, let alone act, whilst asleep? and "find a pussy u could fuck for ever"- yeah very realistic suggestion
 #10 
Old 2002-10-06, 16:35
kronikus kronikus is offline
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Who said ephedrine wasn't addictive?
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Old 2002-10-06, 23:10
punkrawkerstonershit punkrawkerstonershit is offline
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just take those no-drowz pills like bevis does in bevis and butthead do america

that is PURE caffine it is sure to keep u awake for a while
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Old 2002-10-06, 23:46
psycho0_1 psycho0_1 is offline
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take a low dose of ibogaine. keep you up for 2-3 days
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Old 2002-10-06, 23:51
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Yeah, but aren't you pretty much in a trance?
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Old 2002-10-07, 01:58
UrMom UrMom is offline
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yes, i did read the part about tolerance to coffe, but if you have a month or so, completely stop drinking coffe for the whole time... then before the sleeping fast, make several gallons of coffe that you ran through the machine about 5 times mixed with tons of sugar.... not sure how good it is for about 9 days, but it'll do something good especially if done with the other drugs
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Old 2002-10-07, 02:23
Tchort Tchort is offline
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in my experience Dexatrin works better at keeping you awake and non-fatigued than Ritalin. NoDoze (caffiene pills) make you sick sometimes and is hardly a stimulant after you do it a few times (noticably anyway). I'd recommend taking 50mg of Dexatrin (legal Dextroamphetamine) over a period of a couple hours, which will keep you awake for a couple days, then repeat. you'll make it fine if you were to use ritalin or adderal I'm sure. They all serve the same purpose with similar cell construction. good luck though.
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Old 2002-10-07, 02:39
PsychoTropic PsychoTropic is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

In the initial post he said he did not want to take amphetamines, which leaves Dexadrine, Adderall, etc, out of the question. Besides, it's only legal if you have a prescription.
Dexatrin is a 15% w/v injectable solution of Oxytetracycline hydrochloride B.P. and 0.05% w/v of Dexamethasone (as Sodium Phosphate B.P.) and 1% w/v Tripelennamine hydrochloride B.P., apparently used to control virus in cattle and sheep. I wouldn't recommend that.
Dexatrim is PPA, and I think its OTC. This would be more logical seeing how its pretty similiar to amphetamine.
I would personally choose Yellow Jackets or a similiar ephedra/caffeine combo.

[This message has been edited by PsychoTropic (edited 10-07-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-07, 02:52
Alex Jacobson Alex Jacobson is offline
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I think that you should just have a go at trying to invent the strongest coffee in the world..............*Alex laughs*
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Old 2002-10-07, 03:18
UrMom UrMom is offline
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hmmm... unless you really can take the taste of super strong coffe, forget my previous idea... i just drank a cup of it and ugh... it tastes like shit and you wanna throw up after about half a cup, but still makes you hyper.... either way, you have plenty of options
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Old 2002-10-07, 14:04
kronikus kronikus is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Does that OTC Dexatrim stuff do anything stimulating for your CNS? I know it's used as diet pills, but can they be snorted for a (very) mild amp-like effect?
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Old 2002-10-08, 00:25
psycho0_1 psycho0_1 is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

quote:
Originally posted by culinaryoverlord:
Yeah, but aren't you pretty much in a trance?

nah, not realy on low doses

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Old 2002-10-08, 00:37
culinaryoverlord culinaryoverlord is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

I read once that Ibogaine was being researched as a cure for varoius addictions, the subject would enter a trance state and relive crucial moments throughout his/her life, after the drug had run its course the psychological component of an addiction would be lessened or gone, have you heard anything to that effect? The trip reports on Erowid look a little scary, I'm not sure I would try it.
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Old 2002-10-08, 03:58
PsychoTropic PsychoTropic is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

kronikus, I don't think Phenylpropanolamine HCL has much of an enjoyable stimulating effect, if you wanted to try it out I wouldn't reccomend snorting. Try eating a couple first.
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Old 2002-10-08, 05:21
Bombora Bombora is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

I have never tried Ibogaine either has ne1 i know but from what i can gather it sounds VERY scary. I look forward to trying it one day.
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Old 2002-10-08, 06:22
sph3ric pyramid sph3ric pyramid is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Ephedrine's okay for staying up a few days, but after a while you feel like utter shit.


peace out.
sph3ric pyramid.

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Old 2002-10-08, 14:04
kronikus kronikus is offline
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Default Re: Staying Awake....

Psychotropic, thanks for your thoughts. I'm looking for an easy way to boost my energy quickly if I need it. Ephedrine is only sold in really small amounts, and I can't find straight caffeine pills around here.
 
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