Iwas reading the article about myths and lsd. It said you cannot overdose on it. To me its kind of hard to believe.

you'd have to take a ridiculous dose of LSD to overdose. Albert Hoffman, the guy that invented the stuff, tested it at an initial dose of a quarter of a milligram, i believe, and he obviously survived without even ending up in the hospital and without any serious health risks. the typical hit of acid today contains 50 to 150 micrograms. that means that good ol Al took about 25 hits without any life threatening side effects. to my knowledge, nobody has ever ODed on acid, to answer your question.

I've never done this shit either I'm afraid. Only contributing to another myth as some put it. Maybe you can't die from it, but you may be fucked up in the head for a long time from it. Sure, maybe good ol Mr. Hoffman took 25 hits, but the way I see it, his acid was probably a lot more pure and cleaner.

Why do you ask, are you going to try and overdose on LSD?

i think it has something to do with the weight of your brain. meta said something like that sometime.

pretty much all the drugs in the hallucinagon family are safe, like shrooms are impossible to actually overdose on. you would die of stomach getting too full, before overdosing on shrooms, and weed is impossible to OD on too, unless its mixed with something.

I am not a physconaght or anything as i have made clear in the past, but i was always under the impression timothy learry created LSD. So if not what was timithoy learys role in LSD? that is besides taking alot of it.

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Originally posted by subvertpunk:
I am not a physconaght or anything as i have made clear in the past, but i was always under the impression timothy learry created LSD. So if not what was timithoy learys role in LSD? that is besides taking alot of it.

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No he didn't invent it, Albert Hoffman did. There are websites about Leary all over the net.

Ken Kesey had an interesting role in it. I listened to an interview where talked about how he was in introduced to LSD. Through the FBI, where else! He participated in a study about it and ended up going from being a typical all-American, straight, fresh-faced college kid, to a total acid head and major cultural figure of the 60's.

Dopeman, 25 hits will DEFINATELY not kill you. Most I've taken is about 10, but plenty of people do 25 regularly. If I recall correctly, here on the boards, Metaphysicist probably holds the record. I believe it was 65.

who does 25 on a regular basis?
if i had tons of it i prolly would but its hard as shit to find here. yah but anyways... according to DEA report of deaths due to drug overdoses last year, LSD was marked as 0% then labled in the key as being 0%-.5%.

you can do too much of anything...some ppl have died from drinking too much water...but taking too much LSD isn't too good of an idea unless you've been doing it for awhile...aside from the fact you could freak out bigtime, it's kind of a waste of cid...why eat a sheet in a day when doing a few hits every now and then will last you for months?..and for the record, a few ppl have OD'ed in the late sixties from injecting a shitload (i forget the exact amount) and there are some other records of a hanful of ppl who died from drinking several vials or something...there are however a shitload of reports on ppl who freak out and call the paramedics, and then get injected with tranquilizers. that's the beauty of hallucinagens...they're fun as hell and ten times safer than alot of other drugs out there.

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i realize that you can take more than 25 hits. just used Al as an example cuz i didn't know of anybody in specific that had taken more, and factual evidence always needs names. but yeah, not saying that it isn't dangerous to your MENTAL health, you could very well come out a vegetable, but to your physical health, you'd really really have to be trying to OD on cid... and if you're that determined to die, it's much easier to put a bullet in your head.

hoffman discovered it. April 16, 1943

kesey (robert hunter was also a part of those cia tests) founded the 'acid tests' back in the mid 60s. they were crazy parties basically, where everyone got dosed. kesey and his group 'the merry pranksters' had a very before its time multimedia kinda set up. theyd have microphones in one room, but the speakers in another. so one person could be in one room yelling, and people in another room hear it. they had all kinds of taper recorders set up around the place, lots of freky lights and all that shit. the grateful dead was the house band towards the end of the parties, but the very beginning of their career. after this 2 main producers of LSD emerged. Owsley (who was also the deads soundman) and The Brotherhood of Eternal Love; famous for the 'orange sunshine' blotters. timothy leary was close to on of the BOEL chemists, Nick Sand. Sand got busted in st. louis in 73 for having some LSD labs set up, around the same time that Ronald Stark was busted with a lab in belgium. Ronald Starks name also came up recently, when the group of people who produced most of the acid we used to get was busted in Kansas with the capacity to make around 60 million doses. how or why his name came up im not sure. this is why we dont see much acid anymore.

back to leary, he discovered psychedelics in 1960, shrooms to be exact. he went to jail in 70 for distribution i think, but escaped. he was then busted in afghanistan in 73 for that. he got out in 76 and continued to the the main guru and supporter of psychedelics until he died just a few years ago.



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I took a thumbprint of pure crystal lsd and didn't die, it was alot more than 65 hits.

To overdose the substance must possess toxicity. LSD is non-toxic.

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Originally posted by PsychoTropic:
I took a thumbprint of pure crystal lsd and didn't die, it was alot more than 65 hits.

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Man WTF, how the fuck couldnt u have killed urself on that much. Man fuck i took 2 hits of this acid one time and i was too fucked up. I dont understand :S

There is precisely one case of death-by-overdose of LSD. Thats one death through overdose....not through misadventure.
The doses taken(as has probably already been stated) are tiny....in the xxx.micrograms range. I think, if you took maybe a rake(whole sheet)...you would at the very least possibly never come down :-|
I aint no expert, but several (10 - 12) yrs ago there were microdots called Black Dots available.... not many folk could handle them cos the trip lasted (in total) well over 24 hrs. Thing about LSD though is, you kinda need to doubl-up if you want the same level of trip 2 days in a row. Kinda makes it expensive!
btw, for the record...LSD is in the Guinness Book Of Records!
...quite rightly, too

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Originally posted by thaapocalypse111:
pretty much all the drugs in the hallucinagon family are safe, like shrooms are impossible to actually overdose on. you would die of stomach getting too full, before overdosing on shrooms, and weed is impossible to OD on too, unless its mixed with something.

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I'm sorry to burst the bubble...but that aint true. Way back when I was doing serious amounts of shrooms...when it got to the time that we were using our dried-stash rather than fresh..(eaten always...i hate ditch-water-shroom-tea), we used to put the dried shrooms through peppper grinder and use the powder in wine. My close friend at the time suffered blood poisoning through one particularly high dose.....he hadn't been tripping all season like we had.
I reckon you could call that OD, imho.
Also, there are many, many more potentially lethal hallucinogens int the wild than safe ones. ie. the very potent MAO inhibitors in Datura, the potentially fatal toxin (unless properly dried) in the amanita family, to name but 2.
(me not being a bitch......just commenting ;-))

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Originally posted by PsychoTropic:
I took a thumbprint of pure crystal lsd and didn't die, it was alot more than 65 hits.

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wow, i know it'd be impossible to explain but how was it in a few words?

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who does 25 on a regular basis?

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Regularly doesn't mean that you do acid all the time, I just meant I know people, that whenver they use acid, take a lot.

It was really fucking intense. Alot of the time the visuals were so strong I couldn't function because I couldn't see anything that was really there.
This was a few years ago so I don't really remember much specifics, I was doing a ton of drugs then and my friend was mixing pure lsd he got right from the chemist to make liquid vials, so I tripped at least once a week for a little over a year.
The people that never come down from trips are the people who had an un-stable mind when they started the trip, its not really dosage dependant.
It's very possible to overdose on mushrooms and alot of other hallucinogens.
I have personally overdosed on shrooms once, where I ended up in the hospital getting my stomache pumped to save my life.

My dad partied with the merry pranksters, and a few years ago he found about a 1/4th of a vial of LSD-25 in his basement. It was manufactured by Sandoz Pharmacuticals and was one of the cleanest trips I've EVER had, despite it being about 50 years old.

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Originally, Albert Hoffman did not take the equivalent of 25 hits. He took .25 milligrams, or 2.5 centigrams, a.k.a. 250 micrograms. Only about 2-4 of todays hits, actually. The hippies used to do around 220 mcg.

summer tour 97 i did a couple of thumb prints; pretty intense shit. we were in an RV breaking down raw for bottles just about every week, so it was a pretty spun out summer. no way to estimate how many mics, but usually enough to trip extremely hard; like visuals so intense that you cant really function besides lay there, for a full 24 - 30 hours. and then the after effects last for much longer, but usually after that 'peak' wears out i could go to sleep and wake up feeling normal. i think i might have actually only printed myself once, but got really spun out quite alot just from being in a stagnant RV breaking down half grams of that shit for bottles. it starts floatin around the air, you keep breathing. occasionally you just touch the shit. thinking back; we were quite careless. gloves? what? masks? nah!

towards the end of the summer a friend got busted selling on lot, so it ended up being quite a bummer. he got 15 years in a federal pen; partly because when he got bail he skipped it. he was busted in IL, skipped bail, got caught again in Florida about 2 years later.

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Originally posted by junglist:

towards the end of the summer a friend got busted selling on lot, so it ended up being quite a bummer. he got 15 years in a federal pen; partly because when he got bail he skipped it. he was busted in IL, skipped bail, got caught again in Florida about 2 years later.

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Yeah the key word there is Federal: Their guidelines are a bitch, and there's just no room for judges [even if they wanted to] to have any say: the guide say 15 years; you get 15 years; you do 15 years.

That's f**ked.

I know a couple of people in the same boat.

One girl was popped when she was caught mailing [Federal offense right there, BTW] a sheet that a friend talked her into sending.

She should have known better: The friend was in a State Pen at the time.

She got off by testifying against the friend in a conspiracy case. I'm still undecided how I feel about her doing that [despite how I feel about her now, in general: She helped my wife take my daughter 2000 miles away from me...].

As for other points mentioned along the ay in this thread:

Yeah, I think I have the record of the most hits with 65 - give or take.

But that doesn't mean I took the most acid

There's way more than 65 hits worth in a thumb print. And though I haven't don't one of those, I have dipped into a vial of crystal a time or two myself. Again, who knows for sure how much is consumed at those times.

As for OD:

Unless it's happened since I last researched the subject, There is NO recorded death due to an over dose of LSD.

The thing that was alluded to near the top, was something else, though related, that I've mentioned here before:

The only known death of anything from an overdose of LSD was that of an elephant that some researchers were using for LSD research.

It died when it's breathing reflex shut down.

It was later determined that the reason for it was that the researchers were giving the elephant a dosage based on its weight, when they should have used Relative brain size.

pyscho tropic, how much did you take, of the shrooms. i have done an eighth before and wanna move on to a 1/4. i would increase the dose a lot slower but its so hard to find Im going to go out diehard