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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2002-09-23, 00:48
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carlsine 
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first time with crystal
ok, i am not sure if this question belongs here but here i go. I have smoked crystal meth, and i know its very addicting and the down time sucks. But my girlfriend, whom i love very very much. Said that she would really like to try it, just once. And i trust that she will not do it ever again. it is just that i dont want anything to happen to her by just doing it once. I know your probably thinking, just dont get her any and dont worry about it. But she would like to try it. and i want to let her do anything she would like, but i want to make sure she is not going to die. I didnt die, yeah, but effects differ from person to person. and i dont care about what happens to me, nearly as much as about her. someone just please explain the dangers of just one time use, and if she could get hurt badly, and what i should do to lower the dangers.
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#2
 2002-09-23, 01:16
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sweetthang 
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Re: first time with crystal
I dont think that the risk of dying is that great or anything, just make sure that you are there and show her how, and make sure she drinks water afterwards, and she should be ok. Its nice to see their are still guys out there that care about their girlfriends.
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#3
 2002-09-23, 01:31
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rev_DXM 
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Re: first time with crystal
yeah, but if you really cared about her, you wouldnt let her try it at all. it may sound hypocritical, but you dont get your loved ones on drugs- even just to try it. i do drugs, but like you and perhaps many others here, i dont give a shit what happens to me. but i would never get someone i loved to use hardcore drugs.
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#4
 2002-09-23, 02:42
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subvertpunk 
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Re: first time with crystal
He said his gf wanted to try it not that he wanted her to try it you guys, it's her choice. But i have to agree i would never want my gf to do drugs if i still had one. I mean my ex smoked weed a couple times and it made me dissapointed for some reason, wich is very hypocritcall since i use to smoke all the time and i smoked it with her, and i also happen to be a junkie.
Well anyways i have some questions about speed. What is crystall meth i mean i know what the diffrence it but how does it vary from powderd speed and pharmacutical and how does it and speed differ from pharmacutical meth?
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#5
 2002-09-23, 13:12
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dopeman420 
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Re: first time with crystal
pharmaceutical meth, aka desoxyn, is speed with all the standard pill fillers. other than that, they are one and the same.
crystal meth is freebase methamphetamine. it can be smoked.
explanation, if you care: you can't smoke desoxyns or powder speed because it is in a salt form. the free base has been mixed with an acid and now it consists of positive meth ions and some other negative ions. the attraction between positive and negative ions makes something very hard to vaporize and thus smoke, and usually before it vaporizes, your meth will have broken down and oxidated and become useless to your CNS.
hopefully that helped, or at least didn't confuse you. flame me if i'm wrong.
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#6
 2002-09-23, 17:56
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jonk 
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Re: first time with crystal
you can collapse a lung, and if you dont do it right, your lungs could freeze up and she would die from aphixiation (sp?) and if you guys are fuckin afterwards or working out hard, she could have heart damage, but thats only if she is generally unhealthy anyway i think. I wouldnt really worry about her getting that hurt the first time, i would mostly worry about her becoming addicted.
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#7
 2002-09-24, 00:07
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Re: first time with crystal
quote: Originally posted by jonk: you can collapse a lung, and if you dont do it right, your lungs could freeze up and she would die from aphixiation (sp?) and if you guys are fuckin afterwards or working out hard, she could have heart damage, but thats only if she is generally unhealthy anyway i think.
What a load of garbage! Where do people get this crap? There's a chance of of overexertion, true. quote: I wouldnt really worry about her getting that hurt the first time, i would mostly worry about her becoming addicted.
Well you don't really get addicted [i.e.: there is no physical withdrawl]. Heroin [and family] is something you get addicted to. That said, there is a really good chance that she will really like it and want to do it again [then again and again and again, etc.]. In that sense, it could be considered mentally addicting. I still don't like to use the word 'addiction', though because it can't compare to a real, physical addiction.
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#8
 2002-09-24, 02:08
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jonksbaby 
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Re: first time with crystal
i think that if you do trust her that she wont get addicted. and if you love her you should do it with her and help her and make sure to show her to do exactly what to do and what not to do. i doubt she'll die from just once. if you really think that it is a bad idea to even let her once, and it would disappoint you and make you think less of her, let her know exactly how you feel about it, and see how she reacts. if she respects you and really thinks it completely and knows that it will hurt you, let her then tell you how she feels and let her make the decision.
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#9
 2002-09-24, 17:49
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jonk 
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Re: first time with crystal
http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum5/HTML/002953.html I just wanted to share something i had found on totse, regarding ice and the dangers. OH look at that, somone else wrote about a collapsed lung. either way, good luck and i hope that she is ok.
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#10
 2002-09-30, 04:14
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jonksbaby 
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Re: first time with crystal
do you always have to be right? I still say its bullshit, i never heard of any of that shit happening, usually i would back you anytime, but now i would just say you sound like a dumbass.
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