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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2002-08-28, 01:28
djsam djsam is offline
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Default Is it the hydrocodone...?

My mom just got back from the hospital (abdominal surgery), and she's been using her vicodin 5/500 for the pain. Right about now, she kinda reminds me off someone whos tripping on acid. Accept she goes to sleep every few minutes. Is she just talking in her sleep (very erratically), or is it possible that the hydrocodone (or the morphine given to her at the hospital) could have caused this? I've never known it to happen, but I figure its possible.
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Old 2002-08-28, 01:30
kronikus kronikus is offline
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Your moms is gettin her nod on!
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Old 2002-08-28, 05:47
maddcow007 maddcow007 is offline
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Its the hydro's buddy, my mexican friend just had a tooth removed, he's doin the exact same thing. Its kinda funny *chuckles*. Uh oh hes screaming again, later.
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Old 2002-08-28, 17:08
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Default Re: Is it the hydrocodone...?

I dunno, sounds more like the morphine. I have vics stronger than those for the four teeth they chiseled out of my head a while back, and I never got that out of it. Sluggish and amotivated, yes, but nothing like that. I do tend to be chem-resistant, though.
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Old 2002-08-28, 17:59
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Default Re: Is it the hydrocodone...?

i had surgery on a broken leg a couple of weeks ago and they gave me that stuff, its mostly acetamenophen(sic)and codine which is a synthetic form of heroin/morphine
it makes me fall asleep alot, feel dizzy and talk out loud about weird stuff... but of course i take more than i should heh heh heh
they wont give me more of it though-sad- its back to booze,cid,and stuff

oh yeah try having sex on it...
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Old 2002-08-28, 19:26
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yay someone who doesnt know what they're talking about!
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Old 2002-08-28, 23:43
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Codeine isn't synthetic... It's part of opium I believe.
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Old 2002-08-28, 23:46
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lol, I dont know about you guys
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Old 2002-08-29, 01:15
subvertpunk subvertpunk is offline
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Ok lemme try to set you guys strait the best i can. Hydrocodone and Coeadine are not the same thing at all. Hydro is a syth opiate meaning it binds to opiate receptors in the brain and acts like an opiate. Coedine is acually a opiate, and so is morphine there is no synth about them. These are the only true opiates. Yes Herion is an opiate also but it is proccesed chemically from morphie to break a few bodily bearries of morphine and give a big rush as i would suspect hydrmorophone is (someone correct the hydromorphine statement if its wrong).

On the next note hydrocodone has never made me talk to myself or go crazy, niether has morphine or any other opoid.
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Old 2002-08-29, 02:12
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i leave for a month and a whole new batch of newbies people has sprouted
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Old 2002-08-29, 02:17
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Fuck I left for four Cobra! Think how I feel bro! I'm just glad I don't have to Moderate this Forum! Mercy!
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Old 2002-08-29, 15:53
PsychoTropic PsychoTropic is offline
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The newbies seem to sprout up just like crabgrass, impossible to get rid of and rapidly multiplying.
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Old 2002-08-29, 19:35
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ATL, ho!
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hehe at least there ideas are stupid enough to laugh at.
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Old 2002-08-29, 21:09
subvertpunk subvertpunk is offline
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Are you guys reffering to me? I know im a newbie or whatever at least here. Ive been a long time user of alt.drugs.hard though. And those arent my ideas do the reseasch pharmacutically coedine and morphine are the only true opium extractions strait from the plant everything else is either chemically prossesed from morphine or coedine or it is a totally syntetic opiate like oxycodone ad hydrocodone.
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Old 2002-08-29, 21:25
djsam djsam is offline
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Bah, my moms still at it. Its very strange. Considering I take hydrocodone all the time, and never have problems she does.

But, thanks for your help...uh, well, yeah, thanks.
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Old 2002-08-29, 21:28
FortyOunces FortyOunces is offline
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The dried milky juice of unripe seedpods of the opium poppy (Papavera somniferum). The chief constituents of opium are the alkaloids codeine, papaverine, noscapine, and morphine, from which heroin is synthesized.
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Old 2002-08-29, 23:04
subvertpunk subvertpunk is offline
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Ahhh, yes that is right. My only point was that coedine and morphine are the only constituents from the poppy that are used in western pharmacuticals.
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Old 2002-08-30, 00:55
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i was talking about ZERO you sound like you know whats up subvert
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Old 2002-08-30, 02:51
D.N.S D.N.S is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by subvertpunk:
Ahhh, yes that is right. My only point was that coedine and morphine are the only constituents from the poppy that are used in western pharmacuticals.


thebaine is used in the production of opiods
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Old 2002-08-30, 03:08
subvertpunk subvertpunk is offline
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Really? Im almost sure that coedine and morphine are the only things put into pharmacuticals for america, but i could be wrong. Mind givin me a med name i would like to reseach this.

Wait what the hell is thebaine??

[This message has been edited by subvertpunk (edited 08-30-2002).]
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Old 2002-08-30, 03:15
D.N.S D.N.S is offline
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its a precursor for synthesized opiates

oh and papavernine is also used or was i cant remember what i think for bowel control but cant remember
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Old 2002-08-30, 04:39
FortyOunces FortyOunces is offline
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oxycodone is synthesized from thebaine.
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Old 2002-09-01, 04:59
subvertpunk subvertpunk is offline
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-* BUMP *-

Hehehe well i guess we can't know it all. What exactly is a precururrsor? Does thebaine acually come off the popie plant? If not then what i said about morphine and coedine only being used is true.
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Old 2002-09-01, 05:05
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Dimetapp.......& the fading pubic bone
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Old 2002-09-01, 16:14
CRaZyAmishMaN CRaZyAmishMaN is offline
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Default Re: Is it the hydrocodone...?

ulsterman, shut the fuck up.

a precursor is an ingredient used in making a synthesized drug.
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Old 2002-10-10, 03:38
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this is to everyone:
for the person who explained about synthetic morphine you are kinda right. i work in a pharmacy just for your info. the thing is everything (percocet, vicodin, oxycontin, etc.) is all morphine based. and as far as the receptors part of it you are right. for the person who said they make them tired...your taking the recomended dosage. if you took two instead of one you would feel a false sense of well being...happy, energetic, and wanting to talk alot. its the best feeling, however thats why so many people are addicted to it. everyone wants to be happy and full of energy 24/7. but thats not how real life is...unfortunatly we live in a society filled with grief, stress, depression and so on. for those who are addicted to this i advise you to stop or slow down. remember the max dosage of tylenol in a single day is 4000mg. so while your doubling your dose, your doubling your tylenol intake and thats how people over dose and have liver damage. anyway...just be careful, have fun but dont be dumb. no high is worth your life.
 
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