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Old 2002-06-29, 06:29
Xqu1z1T Xqu1z1T is offline
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Default UPDATE: on your shroom guide

Not to sound like I know more about mushrooms than the smurfs. . but I got a really good guide to cultivating indoors! I gotz to give credit to my boyz at www.sporetradingpost.com ! they are the BIGGEST inovaters in cultivation today! By my opinion of course! Id hook you up with there secrets,but that would be bad karma! Unless you bribe me or give me head! but here is a sample takin from da site:

Pressure cooker

Keepers' Poor Boys Glove Box (Buy it)

Keepers' Water Incubator (Buy it)

Finch Bird Seed (3 Cups)

STP Casing Soil

Three Wide Mouth 1-qrt jars.

Three HEPA filter's (90 mm).

Three Plastic/Autoclave Wide Mouth Lids (Pre-drilled w/1" hole)

Gypsum

Aluminum Foil

2 Aluminum Foil Bread Loaf Pans per Jar.

Z-Strain Spore Syringe! (12cc)

Spring Water (INCLUDE YOUR OWN)


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Ok now that you got all of the things you need
together, here we go.

First you need to get your seed and put it in your jar. Use 1 cup for a 1-quart jar, any more then 1 cup and you will not be able to shake the jar later. Measure 1/2-cup spring water for 1-cup of see (2:1 ratio). So now you got your water and your seed in the jar you need to add just a pinch of gypsum and mix it up with a metal or plastic spoon (no wood spoons please). Now put your filter on and screw your lid [that has the hole] on snug...

NOW, I can't emphases this enough, you MUST put aluminum foil over the top to make sure no water gets in or out! IF you DO NOT your seed will get too wet or too dry your ratio will be FUCKED and you will have to start over.

Load the jars into your Pressure Cooker and let it rip! If you're like me and your Pressure Cooker goes up to 15 psi (highly recommended from the Keeper) all you will need to do is to allow it to rise to 15 psi and start your time...15 psi for 60 mins. Or 10 psi for 75 minutes.

After your time is up and the pressure has returned to normal take out all of your jars and allow them to cool at room temp for about one hour. If possible allow them to cool in a running 'Poor Boys Glove Box. They will be hot as hell so you MUST use potholders, towel or anything else BUT your bear hands. After one hour take a look at them...you will notice that the top of the seed is dry and the bottom is mushy. What you will do next is roll them the grains are thoroughly mixed and all is evenly wet again. Once that is done you should place them in a secure place or in a running 'Poor Boys Glove Box', from the Keeper, for the next 24 hrs (or at least overnight) allowing the jars to cool completely. If you were to inoculate them too soon your spores would certainly fry! If you did all the steps that I've given you thus far, your jars will look like this...





Now here is when the cool stuff begins!

Get your Spore syringe (use only high quality syringes from the Keeper) and jars and put them into your glove box. Available with Kits MGK or A/B, or purchased separately, and start it up. Now this is the tricky part. If you are using the KEEPER'S BREW you only need to use 2cc's (Spore Drop Tech...only 1cc). If not...I would go with 4cc's of spore solution per jar. Now all within your glove box take off the foil and undo ONE of the lids. As soon as you get it to the point that it is open, you need to squirt the correct amount into the jar (on the sides of the jar) and close it back up.

Open the lid to the Glove Box and spray the lids with Lysol...an nice thin layer should do it.

Place the original foil back over the lids and place the jars into a Keepers' Water Incubator set to 86F.


You should see mycelium growing with in the 2-3 days if you have used the Keepers Brew only 12 hrs if the Keepers Brew was processed using the Spore Drop technique.

Regular spore syringe inoculation of the grain will take about 5-7 days.








Now just sit back and wait until your jar is 50% white. At this point give your jar a good shake. What you are trying to do is get the mycelium evenly throughout the grain jar. Place your jar back into the incubator and wait until mycelium has completely colonized the seed (grain). After that you should give the jar one more good shake and wait 2 more days.






Now for the last part. You will need 2 Aluminum Foil bread loaf pans (any grocery store) for every quart jar and some STP casing soil.

Preheat your oven to 350F. Once it is heated you can pull the bottom rack out as far as it will go. This technique will protect your materials from become contaminated from airborne debris.

Wipe out your bread pans with 91% rubbing alcohol and place it on bottom rack.

Pore half of the jar into each pan. You should have about a half-inch of birdseed. You want to cover that with your STP, Inc. Casing Mix (See directions for sterilization) so that you have at least one inch covering the entire pan.

Once you have done that, cover with plastic Saran wrap.

Place them back in your incubator set to 86F.

At this point the cakes need to remain in complete darkness until all you see is white throughout the whole pane. Now your can remove from the incubator.

I MUST STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING FAST AND CLEAN AT THIS TIME!

You are going to need to have your STP, Inc. Growing Chamber cleaned and ready.

What you are going to do is unwrap the bread pans and pop-out the fully colonized cakes and place them into the Growing Chamber.

In about a week to ten days you will start to see pins forming and well...you know the rest.....

If all goes well, using Keepers' Kits, you will be seeing this in a matter of weeks.
www.sporetradingpost.com! L8


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Old 2002-07-01, 08:52
GHETTO_SMURF GHETTO_SMURF is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

or i'll pay $5 a fat gram
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Old 2002-07-01, 13:43
junglist junglist is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

you sound like a shitty advertisement for that web site, and i dont like it.
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Old 2002-07-03, 13:14
sassafras sassafras is offline
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Funny junglist, I got the same vibe off of this guys post. He definately sounds like a crappy infomercial or something.
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Old 2002-07-03, 16:13
junglist junglist is offline
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if he hadnt included all of the instruction i would have deleted it. i still want to, but its not my site.
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Old 2002-07-03, 16:23
SomeEverydayNobody SomeEverydayNobody is offline
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Damn it boy! Can you smell rip off? I dont know if thats your site or whatever, but Im not gonna pay some jerk ass 500+ for a 250cfm dayton fan, glued to a wooden box! Now am I gonna pay like 70 for some "glove box" which looks like a fucking robbermade container!
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Old 2002-07-07, 03:16
MaxDamnage MaxDamnage is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

Im sorry, but any cultivators know THE SPORE TRADING POST sux, and the keeper is nothing but a scam artist set out to squeeze every cent out of newbie cultivators. he changes the name of his spores, and ups the price 700%. his famed "keeper's creeper" strains is nothing more than the standard treasure coast strain. how do i know? i have done identicle side by side test's. i even used the TC's ability to throw albino's ( which, as as i know of, only 2 strains can actually be MADE to do.) and the KC's passed right along with the TC. Keeper is a plague on the shroom comunity. why , if you think he is so wonderful, havent you mentioned his prices? i have NEVER paid more than 10 bucks for a clean, viable syringe. for the prise of 1 of his syringes, i could buy 6 PRINTS, and make 60 syringes!!!!!
and want to talk about scams??? i do!
how about his keepers brew? lol dextrose water should never be sold for that much money! btw, lotta peeps do the same thing he claims his "special" brew does, with simply honey and distilled water.

tell ya what, if you want good venders, great teks, make a trip to www.shroomery.org
check out the prices ( cept sporehaven or sporebank lol) they have time tested venders there. sporeworks, the little guy, ralphsters spores, all great venders, but if you decide to use the spore trading post,after seeing what real shroom peeps are about, then you DESERVED the stiffy up your bunghole!

[This message has been edited by MaxDamnage (edited 08-03-2002).]
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Old 2002-07-07, 16:45
r0k r0k is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

i do my shopping here http://www.thelittleguy.com/Our_Products.html
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Old 2002-07-07, 17:02
SUPERKILLER1911 SUPERKILLER1911 is offline
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Hey r0k how is the service delivery wise from the link you posted?How is the product?
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Old 2002-07-07, 17:24
r0k r0k is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

shipping was great i got them in about a week and i got the orissa insia strain and they came out great snd they were pretty potent and easy to grow but if i was gonna buy again i would get there creeper strain
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Old 2002-07-08, 00:42
SUPERKILLER1911 SUPERKILLER1911 is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

Sounds sweet.I may order some.
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Old 2002-07-08, 01:27
SomeEverydayNobody SomeEverydayNobody is offline
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Default Re: UPDATE: on your shroom guide

Im sending out the cash for 3, B+ syinges. Total cost is only $25, including shipping. (http://sporelab.com theyre canadian so thats a bonus for me)

Ive heard some good shit about them on the shroomery forums, so Im expecting to be getting a quality product. I emailed him a few times, and form what I understand, he charges by YOUR currency. Which means if its $25, and youre in the US, then its $25 us! Either way, he got some good prices, and they include shipping. (something like $13 for one, and $25 for 3) but the selection is LIMITED! hes only got like 3 syringes available (some of the options are out of stock) and one type of print.

None the less, good pricing! Takes $5 off buying 3 from most other places1 (assuming theres no extra shipping cost to the US which I doubt there is)
 
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