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Old 2001-06-30, 10:12
JCX JCX is offline
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Yes, i know. We've all heard about salvia. Its supposedly great. Well tonight at my friends house, we drank cough syrup and smoked a lot of weed, and he told me i should smoke some sage. It is a GREAT buzz. Just the sage you buy in the spice rack at your local grocery store. If you smoke it you can get a nice buzz. Sorry if this sounds bad, im whacked out of my skull right now.
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Old 2001-06-30, 10:26
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so let me get this straight, you smoked salvia, "sage", you got at a supermarket to get a fucking BUZZ! What the fuck? First of all what supermarket carries salvia divornium or slendens and Second that buzz you got was from the cough syrup or the weed because you need to hit a specific threshold with salvia to feel ANYTHING.

Do you even know how to smoke salvia correctly? Dood, i always use an extraction with mine, you should too. You wont get shit most likely, unless you use a good ass pipe or most likely a bong with a single potency version of the shit.

The SALVIA starts working when you shoot up into a dream world and your friend wakes you up out of a trance 10 minutes later.
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Old 2001-06-30, 11:21
king_crimson king_crimson is offline
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this is JCX's friend who told him about sage. sage WILL get you buzzed but its not anything like a salvia buzz. NOTHIGN. its completely different. but it does get you high. give it a try. if you can, buy "McCormick" 'Rubbed Dalmation Sage' smoek a phat bowl. get buzzed. enjoy. its really a mindfuck, that sage. wow.

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Old 2001-06-30, 11:54
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Very interesting JCX, and have fun
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Old 2001-07-01, 04:40
JCX JCX is offline
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Thanks, KC.
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Old 2001-07-01, 04:41
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Oh, and slp, the supermarket doesnt carry salvia divinorum, its dalmation rubbed sage. i dont know the latin name. Salvia "something else besides divinorum" I cant remember tho.

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Old 2001-07-01, 09:16
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Salvia apiana � White Sage.
Used ceremonially as incense during Peyote meetings and other Native American rituals.
-from some seed supplier.

That it?
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Old 2001-07-02, 04:48
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No, thats not it, from what i gathered, its from the Dalmation region in Yugoslavia, i can't find a latin name for it anywhere though. Thanks for help in looking it up tho hopefully one of us will find it.
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Old 2001-07-02, 05:01
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Found it! It's proper name is "Salvia officinalis" thats the sage that is in your spice cabinet right now. Go smoke some right now, it works best if smoked through a steamroller. It will really burn for about 5 seconds, but keep holding it and the burning goes away. Its a strange buzz, but a buzz nonetheless. Happy smoking!
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Old 2001-07-02, 06:11
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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dood, i don't think so, i see nothing cool in here:

Chemical Constituents:
Diterpene bitters:

Carnosolic acid
Picrosalvin
Estrogenic substances
Flavonoids:

6-methoxygenkwanin
Genkwanin
Hispidulin
Luteolin
Salvigenin
Phenolic acids:

Caffeic acid
Labiatic acid
Rosmarinic acid
Salviatannin, a condensed catechin
Volatile oil containing:

a- and B-thujone (a-thujone contains toxic constituent)
2-methyl-3-methylene-5-heptene
Borneol
Camphor
Cineole
Toxicity:
Toxic dose: Thujone 30 mg/kg body weight
Overdose symptoms:

Convulsions
Dry mouth
Local irritation
Tea should only be taken for 1 - 2 weeks at a time
http://www.natmedpro.com/nmp/Salviaof.htm

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Old 2001-07-02, 06:17
East Coast Pariah East Coast Pariah is offline
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http://www.rycomusa.com/aspp2001/public/P43/0808.html -all isolated chemicals from Salvia Officinalis and their potential pharmaceutical uses by doctors.

well, it contains alpha-thujone(a-thujone) but i don't know exactly how much or how cool that would be.. i mean you were on DXM and weed..

Define 'strange buzz' JCX...
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Old 2001-07-02, 06:26
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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alpha-Thujone is the main psychadelic chemical in Absinthe found in Wormwood.

beta-Thujone is also found in both Absinthe and Salvia Officinalis. What makes me feel better about this sage being psychoactive is the fact that beta-Thujone is actually more prominent in Absinthe than alpha, though it said in one profile that the Salvia Officinalis contained both but the only toxic(worthwhile in my language) chemical constituant was alpha, but thats ok because the ratio it is found in the essential oils, Thuja, used in Absinthe is 33% alpha-Thujone/67% beta-Thujone.
 
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