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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2001-06-13, 22:30
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heelflipGuy 
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UA - help!
I just got caught with drug paraphenalia at my school (stupid, I know). I had forgotten that i had a pipe in my backpack. Anyways, I have to go to some drug evaluation thing in a couple days and I might have to get a urine analysis. I haven't smoked anything for almost 4 weeks. I heard somewhere that if you take asprin the day of the UA it messes up the results.. is that true?? and what else can I do to either flush the thc out of my system or at least hide it or screw up the results of the test? help!
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#2
 2001-06-13, 22:48
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: UA - help!
chances are it wont come up, but drinking sure-jell a gellatin making substance in the canned food isle of your super market in a box will temporaraly cover up the fat cells, those containing the thc as well, so that none will be released into your system. drinking a packet semi-diluted in water about an hour or two before a test will make this possible to hide the cannibinols from being released into your urine. however this is a last resort method. you should never count on it to always work.
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#3
 2001-06-14, 00:16
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heelflipGuy 
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Re: UA - help!
cool... are there any other things i can do to mask the thc?
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#4
 2001-06-14, 13:50
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pimp 
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Re: UA - help!
flush pills
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#5
 2001-06-14, 15:23
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Eau 
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Re: UA - help!
Well there's a great book called"steal this urine Test" from the Late Abbie Hoffman, Abbie depicts with his hilarious style all the method of circumventing analysis. Techniques like "Houdini in the toilet" are self explanatory, though think dilution , on that test morning, wake up at 5am, take a leak(u know the 1st one is yellow and smelly, that 's good, so much they won't have ....) then drink a lot of water, and repeat the operation till u can(t anymore; purpose here is to dilute any traces of cannabinoids in your urine, then Abbie points out too that ibuprofen(basic OTC pain killers kinda jam the test reading, but though you have to mention to them that you took that medication(u bruised your ankle while jogging...) of course heavy exercising prior to the test (the more the better) is good as well, but no sweat 'cause cannabis has an half-life of about three weeks in your b ody, BUT testing became quite accurate recently(what a shitty business...)AND unfair, coke's half life is smthing like 48 hours... Forget about the cranberry juice, it's a legend, it could only modify your stomach Ph. If you really freak out, get your younger sister's urine in a condom, tape it under your penis, sharpen one of your nail, and you're challenging Houdini! put it before so it gets to your body temp. You could also mix/cut your sample with water so to dilute the results... Good Luck anyway with you in the rocky mountains Eau
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#6
 2001-06-16, 09:02
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zoned 
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Re: UA - help!
Listen dude, all you got to do is take one 500mg niacin 4-5 hrs before your piss test, drink lots of water, and piss 2 times before you get there. The niacin disolves the fat cells in your piss (where THC is stored). I have passed 4 in a row so far that way.
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#7
 2001-06-16, 20:06
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: UA - help!
quote: Originally posted by zoned: Listen dude, all you got to do is take one 500mg niacin 4-5 hrs before your piss test, drink lots of water, and piss 2 times before you get there. The niacin disolves the fat cells in your piss (where THC is stored). I have passed 4 in a row so far that way.
No thank you. Please stay in your corner and only speak when spoken to. We don't wanna hear about your retard niacin shit, which anyone who is anyone knows is bullshit. Good for you pissing 4 clean ones, maybe your weed is fake like your tweak. Flushing with water is slow and you need vitamins to color your urine, but will shorten the thc's stay in your system. No, sure-jell only works with drugs stored in fat-cells, thc being the only i know of in which that is its main depository.
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#8
 2001-06-16, 20:57
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baked 
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Re: UA - help!
actually zoned knows what hes talkin bout cause i've passed my 3 tests so far cause i'm on probation for 6 months for stealin car stereos on niacin it works better if u take it before u go to bed so u can sweat in your sleep cause u get what looks like really bad rashes and your skin burns
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#9
 2001-06-16, 22:01
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heelflipGuy 
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Re: UA - help!
hmm... my dad is on a niacin prescription so I might try that. I read somewhere that you can drink a shitload of vinegar and itl clean out your system. gotta taste like shit, tho.
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#10
 2001-06-16, 23:26
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: UA - help!
NO DONT DRINK VINEGAR!!!! Thats made up to get stoners to have a horrible time b4 they get cuaght by da fucking piss test. Water is good drink like 2 gallons starting the day b4 and you'll have to color your piss with some vitamin C I believe so they dont immediatly relize that youv just downed like a buncha fluids.
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#11
 2001-06-16, 23:40
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Matius 
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Re: UA - help!
I heard that if you dip your finger in bleach and then piss on the tip of your finger, the bleach kills it. I dunno, never had to take a piss test.
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#12
 2001-06-17, 04:04
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zoned 
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Re: UA - help!
My weed is definatly not fake and I DO know what I am talking about. If you dont agree with me just say, no, that doesnt work. Don't be an arrogant prick. And the bleach thing used to work but now they test for it in most places. I have never heard the sur-jel thing, I could see how it could work though.
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#13
 2001-06-17, 04:29
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zoned 
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Re: UA - help!
If you get a rash from it, try cutting the dosage in half. Works for me.
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#14
 2001-06-17, 05:19
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: UA - help!
*starts an 'arrogant pricks' club*
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#15
 2001-06-17, 09:45
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zoned 
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Re: UA - help!
Just so you know Matius, niacin is an otc drug, you dont need a prescription for it. BTW, anyone know anything about jimsum err jimsun or whatever the fuck it is?? A friend of mines dad said he ground up the leaves and filled 3 capsules with the powder for each of them (there were 5 I think). Anyway, he says its the most hardcore trip hes ever had. He was talking to a little troll sitting at the end of the bed for 4hrs before realizing it was his foot. Anyway, I was wondering what the active ingredient is and if it can be extracted.
[This message has been edited by zoned (edited 06-17-2001).]
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#16
 2001-06-17, 18:33
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: UA - help!
Im going to say that its probably not worth trying it without extream caution to hard to calculate dosage and Iv heard of peeps ending up triping for days.
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#17
 2001-06-17, 19:40
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: UA - help!
any drug is a script in large quantities- ibuprofen, niacin, diphenhydramine- all can be purchase OTC in smaller doses per capsule/pill but are also prescribed in larger doses per capsule/pill whatever the method of administration normally a pill or capsule...
jimson weed- A.K.A datura stramonium- grows wild throughout the U.S. or at least the east coast in the mid-north where i live. its main alkaloids are scopolamine and atropine, both useful in the medical feild and extremely toxic when used recreationally. Datura is a delierant, anti-cholinergenic, which means it basically takes over involantary nerve action and is supposed to stop it, but in instances of people using it recreationally, they lose control and in a 'dream state' do shit they are not aware of while their nervous system and musculor-skelatal system moves around and they continue to dream.
The trip- well diphenhydramine and dimenhydrinate are synthetic derivaties of the datura/belladonna family and produce a very similar disociative trip, safer and not as long, since datura can go on for over 3 days when overdosed on and no medical attention is given(that is a true extreme instance but still needs to be noted). ....Mostly hallucinations that seem all to real, not morphing ones, but actual mistaken hallucinations for real things, mixed up events, and dreams being confused with actual events. it will seem to go on forever, and people who do it with others and have the others leave on accident or purpose normally end up not coming out with a positive experience. diphenhydramine and dimenhydrinate however can be more positive when gone off on individually. datura.. is way stronger and hard to dose on, i recommend a sitter. i wrote about this in other posts, extensively, you might wanna look around for it. atropine and scopolamine can be very very bad for you recreationally on their own as far as an extraction goes.
Atropine is used medically to dry people out-vaginally and resperatorally in surgery for severe secreations and lessen heart block AND as an antidote for muscarine poisoning from agaric mushrooms(i.e. amanita muscaria a.k.a 'fly agaric')
Scopolamine is used to treat paralysis of a muscle in the throat and for pupil dialation treatment...not much to worry about...not like atropine which has great effect on everything including blood and organs and such. might wanna check out tdlos and stuff if you are gonna fuck with an extraction, oh and get the rations too for atropine to scopolamine so you know how much you go in the extration to dose correctly too to compare to the tdlos and so-on and so-forth. Maybe even figure out a kitchen chemist's way to seperate atropine and scopolamine so you can dose better and experiment tripping of different combination ratios........
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