Everyone around me is popping pills and i would join them its just i know i will probley die.
They are all so carefree it pisses me off that anyone could die, and knowing my luck it would be me,my first time.
HOw do i know how safe the pills are, and how can i take them with fewer risks, cuz i just want to try them.
is it worth it or should i stick to drink shrooms and dope????

ok monsieur pie,

I'll give you a little background on ecstasy. First off remember that you are not feeling the frug itself, but a rush of Serotonin. It's a nuerotransmitter in the brain that is responsible for your moods, appetites,etc. Ecstasy makes your brain release a ton of it and it feels wonderful. The danger comes in this...It also releases another nuerotransmitter called dopamine. When all the Serotonin is used up, after a few hours, you have un usually high levels of dopamine left in the synapse, which isn't normal. That dopamine is recycled in place of Serotonin (which is used up). The technical term is re-uptake. When Dopamine gets recycled it turns into hydrogen peroxide (hair bleach) and damages your serotonin receptors (makes holes in your brain). When these are damaged over a long time, your moods can be fucked forever, OR they may heal themselves, we do not know yet.

This is the best way to prevent this neurotoxic damage Take at least 20, but I would take 40 mgs of Prozac. Prozac is an anti-depressant called a Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitor. In other words, it doesn't allow re-uptake to occur. It was meant for Serotonin, but thankfully in this case it works for Dopamine as well. In rats, that were given MDMA and given prozac no later than 4 hours after the rolling stops received no nuero toxic damage. There is no evidence that shows that human brains do not re act the same way .

This is if it's even MDMA. A lot of pills are MDA (hallucinating drug), MDE (same), PMA (designer speed, cheap, will make you feel good too, some ppl dont see a difference!), get a tester and if it shows up black/blue its MDMA, I have had great memories with ecstasy and there are more to come.

Lokil broke it down. All I have to say is that once ppl take exctasy for the first time, alot of people enjoy it so much, that it produces...what lokil said...neurological damage. And it is not something that is curable...I've witnessed people become "E-tards" and feel really sorry for them. It's like they used to be on the ball and now it's hard for them to find a clue. Don't fall victim. And if someone comes up to you sayin "it's pure, dude", chances are that it's not. IE. pressed pills and even powder like mdma that's cut, sassafrass which makes ya feel like a lil trippy, and peppernal that's kinda speedy and also smells a lil like liquorice. Odds are that many ppl dont know what's exactly in Exstacy until maybe after the "roll". That's why it's important to take it easy and not let it get outta hand.

~pumpkin

if you or your family don't have a history of heart disease....don't worry. if you don't overdo it (let's say once a month) the neurological damage is minimal. just take some magnesium supplements (reduces the teeeth grinding) and a lot of vitamins and fluids during the roll. oh, and some 5-HT a couple of days before the roll (helps with the depression and comedown afterwards) would be a good idea, too. other than that.........have FUN !!!!

can u snort e and get high

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my experiences snorting e were a good roll but it didnt last as long as taking orally, but did sometimes seem to be more intense. to expand a little on lokils posting, after you take your first pill most if not all of your seratonin is gone, so usually your second, third, or five hundredth pill after the first (in the same roll of course) you will not get the same effect because there is no seratonin left to release. you will get a speedy buzz from it usually, but i think after your first it is a waste to take more, maybe one at most. just drop some acid a few hours before takin your roll and get some N2O and gas out, if ya really wanna get blitzed, not recommended for a weekly buzz. for about 2 years i would take e and usually acid at raves every weekend, now i havent taken e in about 10 months, but still do acid occasionally...always have N2O around its great on E or L, i wont do either without at least some whippits, but always prefer a personal 2 1/2 foot tank for our crew. PLUR and be careful!!!

*reads about the death of the anaethesiologist from N20 abuse as he was getting high and feel asleep and just never woke up and laughs at junglist*- COOOL drug o choice man. Why not smack?

Little china men that own mercs are the safest dealers!

(sniffin speed is cool!)

Don't get cheated, pills cost nothin, �3.
and speed is �1 per gram (gram is equal to one line, snort!)

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yeah it's definitely worth it!!!!

as long as you don't overdo it as some one else already said... don't do it every weekend, and don't do too much at one time... if it's your first time and you're worried about it just take half a pill and try to convince yourself that if anything happens you won't die because you only took half!?! that's my logic, anyway...

p.s. one other drawback... once you do it once, it's difficult to have as much fun without it...

I'm planning on rolling for my first time this weekend. I read lokil's post, and that thing about the prozac is kinda interesting. You do have to have a prescription to get prozac, right? *sigh*

also, how long after rolling is E detectable in your bloodstream or by a urine analysis?

same as amphetamine/methamphamphetamine

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Originally posted by heelflipGuy:
I'm planning on rolling for my first time this weekend. I read lokil's post, and that thing about the prozac is kinda interesting. You do have to have a prescription to get prozac, right? *sigh*

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Well if you haven't taken the ecstasy already...can't you tell your friends and steal some prozac? One of your friend's rents has to have an rx. And like slpwlkr said, I rolled two days before I had to urine test for a job and they never said anything, could be becuse they weren't testing for speed...Or it could of been the fact that is stays in your system for one or two days.



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