Hey im interested in Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and im wondering how many seeds i would have to ingest to produce a nice visionary trip?? I weigh 140lbs and its my first time.
Another thing is does the hawaiian veriety differ from the regular hawaiian baby woodrose seeds in potency?? If anybody can help me with these questions it would b super cool, thanks

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how do you plan to dose? sublingual by holding them in your mouth?
dosage for what?
what am i getting the exact dosage for here?
eaten?
sublingual?
crushed n snorted?
LSA extraction?

how many are needed for a nice visual trip, by crushing them up and ingesting it in a drink or something. But what is sublingualor whatever mean?? is it better?

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[This message has been edited by bako (edited 05-30-2001).]

i live in australia where can i get hawiaan rose seeds from ?

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Originally found in the Natural Highs FAQ:

HAWAIIAN BABY WOODROSE SEEDS
Family:
Convolvulaceae
Genus:
Argyreia
Species:
nervosa
Usage:
seed pods contain 4-6 seeds. Seeds are removed from pods and fungus-like coating is scraped or flamed off (author recommends scaping as much as possible and flaming the rest, as the coating can be thick and it's easy to end up turning the whole seed into a chunk of carbon if you just flame it). 4-8 seeds are chewed on an empty stomach (to minimize nausea). Seeds sold commercially are generally already removed from the pods. The seeds themselves resemble small chocolate chips, but are hard as rocks and have the coating mentioned above.
Nausea can be lessened by ingesting one or two dramamine 30 minutes to one hour before ingesting the HBW seeds. More dramamine can be taken after the nausea sets in, however, dramamine can be a DANGEROUS drug in high doses and its synergistic effects with LSA are unknown. Exceeding the recommended dosage given on the dramamine box is probably a pretty stupid thing to do under any circumstances.

If dramamine is not used, inducing vomiting when nausea starts will provide relief but effects will continue. You can also grind and soak the seeds in water, then strain them out and drink the water. If ground seeds are used, make sure they are fresh ground.

Effects:
LSD-like effects, but less intense, with less visuals. Trip lasts 6-8 hours; tranquil feelings may last additional 12 hours. Sleep is deep and refreshing after trip, however some users may experience a hangover characterized by blurred vision, vertigo, and physical intertia.

History:
Used by the poorer Hawaiians for a high. Shipping of these seeds became popular, as did a great controversy over the propriety of world-wide distribution.

Interaction precautions: same as for Morning Glory seeds.

Active Constituents:
D-lysergic Acid Amide and related compounds. NOTE: net wisdom has it that extracting LSA from woodrose/mg seeds is an inefficient way to obtain a precursor for LSD.

Note:
Hawaiian Large woodrose seeds supposedly have the same effect. Dosage is identical.

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That should be sufficient.

ok thanks there sir C&P..
here is a nausea-resistant recipe i very much prefer:
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Liquid LSA from HBWR seeds
Liquid LSA
by Tony A.(some poster on erowid in experience reports)

Items needed:
150 hbwr seeds
a 50ml bottle
non-polar solvent (Coleman's white gas)
190 proof bottle of everclear
small funnel
2 small jars with lids
coffee filters

Steps:
Grind the 150 seeds in coffee grinder. place the seeds into a jar, and add just enough white gas to cover the seeds. Put lid on, shake for five minutes, and let sit for one hour. then poor the solution into a funnel with a coffee filter in it, discard liquid, and let the seed mush to dry. once it has dried, place the DRIED seedmush/powder into a CLEAN jar, and take the Everclear and put it into the 50ml bottle to messure it out. then pour the 50mls of alcohol into the jar. close the lid and shake. let sit for 3 days, shaking a few times a day. then pour the liquid into a funnel with a coffee filter, and save the liquid. discard the seed mush.

Poor the liquid into the 50ml bottle and let it sit for 2 hours, after 2 hours any remaining seed power will settle to the bottem. Once that as happened pour the liquid into the jar, and was out the seed mush in the 50ml bottle. pour the alcohol back into the 50ml bottle, there should be some alcohol missing, so take some more Everclear and fill the 50ml bottle to the top. you now have 50mls of drinkable LSA-liquid extract from 150 hbwr seeds.normal dosages for hbwrs is 4-6 seeds. ONE ml of this liquid is equal to 3 seeds!!! drop 3mls into your mouth and its the same thing as 9 seeds, and you wont get sick at all!!! My trip lasted about 9hours with 4 hours after effects
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ok sublingual is holding the seeds in your mouth like a hit of acid- normally under the tongue, where most receptors are. Sometimes between the cheek and gum.
So anywhere from 4-8(everyone is different) seeds, and BE WEARY- don't let the poor hawaiian thing fool you. It is still a powerful hallucinagen. And if you decide to isolate LSA- it is DEA schedule 3



[This message has been edited by slpwlkr333 (edited 05-31-2001).]

I also found a supplier in the Legal Highs index:

Magic Garden Herb Co., P.O. Box 332, Fairfax, CA 94930

Not to sound picky or anything, but LSA, to the best of my knowledge, is Schedule 3

:::::::::::WARNING::::::WARNING:::::::::::: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php3?ID=7110 - READ THIS IMMEDIATELY IF CONSIDERING HBWR SEEDS!

SCARY AS FUCK trip report- potential cyanogenic poisoning- http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php3?ID=7105

Hey can someone tell me if this recipe would work please...
Take X HWBR seeds, grind them up, put into a little jar and add 3/4 purified water and 1/4 40% alcohol vodka, shake and let sit 24 hours. Filter seed mush and add iced tea mix to the LSA solution and drink?
I think it would work but i need more people to put there opinion or im not tryin it
thx

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[This message has been edited by bako (edited 05-31-2001).]

lysergic acids as far as i know, arent soluable in water unless it is very hot. Which means the water needs to be hot, and eventually when it cools down, some will precipitate out.

dude, read the last post i did. you might wanna reconsider this entire HBRW seed thing. or at least throw in peeling the seeds.