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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2001-05-28, 01:54
atomictied atomictied is offline
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Default Heroin Users FUCKED Next year

In Afganistan, there is a group called the Taliban who is unoficialy ruling over the land. You may have read stories about their actions to destroy the statues over there (Big Fucking Deal). Anyway, since they are Muslim, they have decided that growing poppy seeds which are mainly used for opium drugs is un-Islamic and have banned the growing of poppy seeds.
Now, you may be asking yourself the following question: "How does this effect me, the heroin user?" Well kiddies, afganistan supplies a whopping 75 FUCKING % of your precious poppy that is used to make heroin, opium, morphene, and the like. So, there will be a 75% price increase.

Anyway, everyone will be paying out the ass for opium next year, just thought I would let everyone know.

Reactions, anyone?

P.S. America has spent 20 years doing a "war on drugs" and done jack shit. In about a year, a rebel group has cut down opuium output by 75%, hows that for a kick to america's nuts?
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Old 2001-05-28, 02:30
East Coast Pariah East Coast Pariah is offline
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OHHHHHH NOOOO, i suddenly care about third world smackheads
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Old 2001-05-28, 02:35
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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maybe they will start using opiod pharms[most of which are safer then mainlining 3rd world crap heroin] and have a better telephone per house ratio, but that just me dreaming about PLAYING SMART.
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Old 2001-05-28, 02:50
Frey Grimrod Frey Grimrod is offline
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Hmm perhaps growin a poppy crop this year aint such a bad idea after all.....considering the MASSIVE amount of Heroine addicts in my city and how it all comes in off the boats im guessing the crimerate is going to sky rocket thnx for warning me to stock up on ammo.

I bet users in the southwest wont be affected nearly asmuch though considering the fact that most of there shit comes from mexico.

heheh so true about the war on drugs comment.
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Old 2001-05-28, 05:05
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Not much H comes off of boats- mostly coke and a lot of weed.
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Old 2001-05-28, 08:22
Frey Grimrod Frey Grimrod is offline
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I suppose except I am in a deep water port and international boats are not uncommon and more likely the "fishing" boats go out and make rendevoues in international waters since the fishing industry shit the bed.
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Old 2001-05-28, 17:34
Neo Nemesis Neo Nemesis is offline
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just a stupid thought but maybe we should all buy a lot of heroin then and save it for like a year or too untill the price skyrokets then just pop out of nowhere, saying hey ive got a ton of heroin and ill sell it cheaper than the other guy and still make a ton of profits hmmmmmm

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Old 2001-05-28, 17:45
dankgirl420 dankgirl420 is offline
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I agree! That is definitely a STUPID idea!
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Old 2001-05-28, 17:57
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It still is a controversy,(well I don't have access to satellite imagery)but I heard this rumor as well as another one from someone working in an ngo there, said that they never grew so much H than this year.(After all money doesn't grow on tree(great movie that "Money Tree" ) and how do you want them to run their country, only rocks grow there...
Right about the elasticity of the prize of the product, but don't forget that now the zapatistos are growing poppies in Chiapas. Poppy even is growing on some Carribean islands such as St Vincent, And what about Burma, Thailand, some ex-ussr republics...
Plus the regular perfectly lawful growing in western world for our pharmeucitical needs. One true thing though is that due to the UN efforts on reducing poppy growing, the price of morphine skyrocketed last year(it's just more profitable to do heroin rather than morphine...)
The chems analog are still pretty dangerous(cases of early Azheimer's disease recorded among (ab)users in California few years ago.
Anyway the UN said recently that they are planning to eradicate from the planet Heroin as well as Cocaine within 10 years...
Guess that our good Dr Shulgin came with his two tomes riiiight in time.
Synthetic drugs totally change the game, drugs being a weapon used by some countries, well if they can be synthetised in everybody's garage...
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Old 2001-05-28, 18:22
atomictied atomictied is offline
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Originally posted by slpwlkr333:
Not much H comes off of boats- mostly coke and a lot of weed.


Yeah, but the point is that the poppy that comes off of the boats is shipped to wherever in the US and other places, made into H, morphene, whatever and then distributed within that country or reigon. Also, even though new places are growing poppy, theres no way that it will compensate for the 75% loss on the market. The new places will maybe cut it to 70%, 65% at the most.

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Old 2001-05-29, 02:58
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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atom- they are not shipped anywhere. opium tar is taken from the pod while on the plant. The pods are then removed and died and the remainer of the opium(a very small amount) scraped and the seeds filtered out.

So what was your point again, most of H traffic is on land; comprende essay?
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Old 2001-05-29, 04:26
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Well, the stuff that they grow in afganistan isnt made into drugs in afganistan. That happens after it is sold to dealers later. So whatever they sell to the dealers isn't the actual drugs. However, it becomes 75% of the opium based drugs later on, so it affects the market greatly. But whatever.
No matter what happens, the H users are fucked moneywise.
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Old 2001-05-29, 08:35
dankgirl420 dankgirl420 is offline
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Slp! About 3 years ago a story came out. You were only 13 then so you probably didn't pay attention. Mother's of New York were flying with their children to Columbia to purchase cocaine because it is helly cheaper. Then, they would fly to Eur/Asia to trade the cocaine for heroin because it's difficult to get cocaine there. Then, they brought the H back and made a killing. Selling the heroin made the guy who sponsered the mothers pretty wealthy...until he got caught. That's just a story of the economics of drug smuggling of a ring of ppl who got caught. You think there isn't ppl "smuggling" off land ths moment? The big quantities of Heroin traffic are not always on land, Most of the smaller quantities are though. It's just that there's so much traffic on land that it is easy as hell to get busted and that's why ppl think this.


[This message has been edited by dankgirl420 (edited 05-29-2001).]
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Old 2001-05-30, 00:53
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Air terrorism + air drug traffic= big crackdown

most of the air drops are intercepted(over 1/2). Have you any idea how impossible it is with mainstream drugs that dogs can sniff(weed, coke, H). Fuck that, trafficing that is death for marketing prospects.
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Old 2001-05-30, 09:14
DoPesTeR-DaZe DoPesTeR-DaZe is offline
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Forget price increase, heroin users are always fucked
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Old 2001-05-30, 21:23
dankgirl420 dankgirl420 is offline
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True dat!
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Old 2001-05-30, 21:32
dankgirl420 dankgirl420 is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by slpwlkr333:
Have you any idea how impossible it is with mainstream drugs that dogs can sniff(weed, coke, H).


So you must be right!! I'm so terribly sorry! Most cocaine doesn't come from south america to key west!! You're so right! And alot of Heroin never comes from anywhere in Eur/Asia! No one can send things across country to an unregister post box. And NO ONE does sketchy things? Right slp? It all is shipped on the highways of the US!! I mean, that is what drug cartels do, isn't it?

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Old 2001-05-30, 21:38
m1066ad m1066ad is offline
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yer all clueless
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Old 2001-05-31, 00:37
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Dank what is a go-fast?(besides the a nick for meth/amph)

Oh that's right its a nick for a speedboat that most of the coke and sometimes weed in Key West come in from. They leave from Non-Us airports in other countries near Key West where coke and sometimes weed are flown in from S.America(since you feel like talking about S.American operations).

Nice one, trully. I enjoyed destroying that. Lets see- land, air, and whats the other mode of transportation thats hard for DEA agents to get(ROFLMAO!)?
 
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