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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2001-04-23, 10:18
Z3m Z3m is offline
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If I was interested in self medicating with it orally, would I do better with freebase or hcl? Would one have more subjective punch than the other?
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Old 2001-04-24, 07:29
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no idea dude. MAOIs are scary. can't eat like anything or drink some things. self-medicating for what. i can probly help you with this but i gotta get to bed. i've been up for 25 hours.
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Old 2001-04-24, 10:19
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Self medicating for depression. I'm read up on the diet. It isn't that terrible. Just eat more veggies and fruits.
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Old 2001-04-24, 15:58
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If your depressed, be careful bout what the shrinks want to put you on. Prozac has made some of my friends even more suicidal. Celexas didn't work very well for them either and paxil has made two of my friends not be able to get it up. So, definitely ask what the side effects are, if your gonna be put on anything.
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Old 2001-04-24, 22:51
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Can you not read?
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Old 2001-04-25, 23:26
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Top.
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Old 2001-04-26, 07:22
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Hey, take it easy on skank, she was just trying real hard to look smart while overlooking the big aspect that you said SELF-MEDICATION.

shulgin takes it orally so im gonna have to go with that. good timed out release 5-8 hrs. thats really nice i'd say. he used the synthetic pure harmaline for psychotherapy and took a lot in his high dose experiments to the point where he got visuals, like rippiling but nothing unpleasent and out of whack, uncontrollable and scary or whatever- none of that. why you'd wanna use it for depression i can understand, i dont like to be conventional but there are so many MAOI drawbacks i might reconsider. HCl should be fine, but remember harmaline does cause disorientaion, and im not sure how you are going to get a continuous flow of pure, synthetic harmaline.For depression i suggest starting out at about 25-50 mgs respectively because 150 seems to be well- psychoactive and a definate recreational dose.
 
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