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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2001-04-16, 16:31
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-_-_-_-_-PyRo-_-_-_-_- 
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Opium
OK...
So i grow opium poppies and subtract the opium. Should I convert it into heroin(if so how?), or just take the opium and smoke it?
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#2
 2001-04-16, 16:50
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Re: Opium
you're 11. the only thing you're growing is some mold on the bread for you biology projects, and maybe some pubes, bitch kid.
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#3
 2001-04-16, 16:54
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-_-_-_-_-PyRo-_-_-_-_- 
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Re: Opium
Faggot
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#4
 2001-04-16, 17:20
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Opium
Well your 11 dude COMMON!!! Dont become an opiate addict this early! Id just smoke it myself but up to you.....
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#5
 2001-04-16, 20:11
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othium 
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Re: Opium
isn't herion like half synthetic and half actual opium extract.
your probably growing normal poppies.
there is no reason to try and make somethign very hard opium itself is great without all that other shit.
as long as you don't use to offen it is more of a holiday or special occasion thing.
tolerances grow and the euphoria goes and you will be left using just to avoid pain so remember, keep it for special occasions and share with your friends.
my username comes from the word opium.
------------------ cogito, ergo sum
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#6
 2001-04-17, 04:41
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: Opium
you subtract the opium? is that opposed to cubing or possibly dividing it amoung your 3 pubes?
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#7
 2001-04-17, 07:01
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krazd 
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Re: Opium
how can you tell which poppies are the right one's for opium? i rember reading there name somewhere but is there a way you can do it by just looking at it?
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#8
 2001-04-17, 08:53
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tek 
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Re: Opium
here you should check this site out. it's pretty interesting. http://opioids.com/
and here is a site that you can buy the seeds from. http://www.ethnobotanicals.com/PureLandCatalogPS.html which ones should a future grower get or does it even matter? and how long does it take for these things to grow before you harvest? thanks!
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#9
 2001-04-17, 20:05
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othium 
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Re: Opium
I have been considering growing opium because it grows so easily.
marijuana requirs help in the first few weeks and after that you transplant it outside and it is pretty much self growing but opium is even lower maintnence.
------------------ cogito, ergo sum
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#10
 2001-04-18, 01:13
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FixedNDilated 
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Re: Opium
quote: Originally posted by -_-_-_-_-PyRo-_-_-_-_-: Should I convert it into heroin
That would have to be a joke... you do realise it takes about one and a half pounds of raw opium to make just 1 oz. of crude heroin base? [This message has been edited by FixedNDilated (edited 04-18-2001).]
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#11
 2001-04-18, 05:15
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Opium
But you forget this 11 year old is going to grow 5 acres worth of these things since there "legal" and noone will notice im harvesting em.
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#12
 2001-04-19, 01:24
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Re: Opium
since your 11 i doubt that you have the chem skills to convert opium into herion, so i would leave it as opium if i were you. but you are probaly growing the wrong kind of poppy anyhow, so i would just forget it all together. do you even know how to get pure opium from a poppy plant?
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#13
 2001-04-19, 01:30
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acidmelt 
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Re: Opium
you think that you got the skills to make herion from poppy plants? well... you dont, but just for your own info, here is how to do it... http://balder.prohosting.com/~adhpage/making.shtml
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#14
 2001-04-19, 05:15
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: Opium
quote: Originally posted by FixedNDilated: That would have to be a joke... you do realise it takes about one and a half pounds of raw opium to make just 1 oz. of crude heroin base?
[This message has been edited by FixedNDilated (edited 04-18-2001).]
No, believe it or not; you're the joke. Opium poppies spreads like wildfire, weather premitting, and raw opium is easy to collect because the bulbs regrow after you cut them off. You act as if 1 oz of even crude heroin doesn't have an enormous street value. Do you actually have an idea of how much the street value of heroin is?
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#15
 2001-04-19, 05:37
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Opium
Pretty "cheap" at least as H goes here its being sold under or at cost to get peeps hooked fucking sad really.
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#16
 2001-04-19, 07:37
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Re: Opium
The street value of heroin, china or tar, is definitely not cheap, Frey. You could sell the shit anywhere from $100-$250 a gram. In any case, it's not cheap at all.
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#17
 2001-04-19, 12:46
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FixedNDilated 
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Re: Opium
quote: Originally posted by slpwlkr333: Opium poppies spreads like wildfire, weather premitting
Where did I say otherwise? quote: raw opium is easy to collect
Not if you`re going to do it properly. quote: You act as if 1 oz of even crude heroin doesn't have an enormous street value.
Read it again, I said crude heroin base, of which I never heard anyone dealing direct as it requires further processing. quote: Do you actually have an idea of how much the street value of heroin is?
Yes thank you. quote: believe it or not; you're the joke.
Resorting to the use of personal insults is facile and unimpressive. quote: Originally posted by dankgirl420: The street value of heroin, china or tar, is definitely not cheap, Frey. You could sell the shit anywhere from $100-$250 a gram. In any case, it's not cheap at all.
Sorry, Frey is right; over here the cost of a gram of heroin has fallen dramatically. Its currently about �45 ($64) and in order to get you hooked you`re likely to be offered it for about �10 ($15) or even free.
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#18
 2001-04-19, 17:00
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dankgirl420 
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Re: Opium
So if you're right, and you can get a tenth for $10 to $15 (usually $20) then a gram would run you anywhere from $100 to $150, which falls into the bracket of what I stated earlier, and that's saying the tenths weigh because alot of people weigh out over ten packets to a gram. It's what they call "cut".
[This message has been edited by dankgirl420 (edited 04-19-2001).]
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#19
 2001-04-19, 19:52
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Opium
Sorry Dankgirl another thing you must relize is drugprices ARENOT universal mabye where you live H is really expensive as it is in alotta places but my city happens to have more H go through it than most comes in offa the boats damn shame that one of the best Icecream places around got shut down for having a H lab upstairs too. I could walk downtown right now and probably score a bag of H for free as a trial offer and even after its still pretty damn cheap here compared to other places around the country.
Of course I try to stay the fuck away from that shit it'll kill yah.
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#20
 2001-04-19, 21:57
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L-i-q-u-i-d 
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Re: Opium
I know a lot pretty good bit about acid and shit like that but kinda new to the opium scene; just wanderin if any one could tell me what kinda seeds to buy;where;how hard it is to grow and how long and whether extracting is hard
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#21
 2001-04-19, 22:43
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L-i-q-u-i-d 
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Re: Opium
How does everybody know hes 11 or yall just fuckin with him: Im knew to this shit
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#22
 2001-04-20, 00:39
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Opium
You want Papaver somniferum. You can buy it in MANY online seed/plant sites. Relatively easy to grow in right conditions same with collecting opium if you have anyidea what your doing refining it to heroine on the other hand is where it gets hard. Also I believe he said he was 11 in an earlier post around the boards somewhere.
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#23
 2001-04-21, 12:34
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slpwlkr333 
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Re: Opium
Wow, and all this time it was fixedndialted runnin the show from bumblefuck. Nah, bud sorry but take a good look at where i'm from. Yea, that's right, the H capital of the United States. No i'm not making that title up, the DEA test the heroin from every region and major city and Philadelphia has the cheapest and purest product out there. So while 1 1/2 pounds of raw opium which is easy as fuck to grow would give you 1 oz of crude H which would stay 1 oz C grade Heroin(standard WEST COAST H) after being cut. That's an MINIMUM $160/oz for the shittiest heroin out there. If you clean it up and get it to Philly quality(92%+) and sell it anywhere other than here you can get upwards of $60-$80 per gram. How purity can make a difference to a non-addict. Middle and upper-class suburban occasional users will easily give you this for near pure product. Wow, did you really need me to do the math for ya there buddy? The dialation screwing up your neurological functions there bro? Oops, am i being facile there ghandi? Dude, unless you happen to be in the H import/export/manufacturing/distribution business in the Tri-State area with the central operation based out of Philadelphia i really wouldn't argue because all you know is what you pulled out of a fuckin book or off a fuckin website. I guess your statistics didnt predict this?
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#24
 2001-04-21, 23:26
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dankgirl420 
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Re: Opium
What the hell kinda heroin can you get for $160 an ounce? Vitamin B-12 that someone passed on to you as heroin? Way to go custy.
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#25
 2001-04-21, 23:43
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Opium
I believe he said that $160 was the MINIMUM FOR THE SHITTIEST HEROINE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET!!!
GOD DAMNIT FUCKING PUBLIC EDJUCATION WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO READ!!?!?
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