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Old 2001-03-30, 15:42
John316 John316 is offline
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Any of you guys know a real good way to get more of a rush from e?

Some people say orange juice is real good cause of the vitamin c,but I`m not sure if that effects ur rush.
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Old 2001-03-30, 15:55
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Get some 5-HTP from the local health food store and take 3-4 of them several hours before take the E. It builds up the reserves of seretonin in the brain so the E releases more. It also helps prevent the 'hangover' afterwards.

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Old 2001-03-30, 18:14
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The Orange Juice, specially, Vitamin C is said to remove any toxin reside that may be left over from the pill taking. But I also remember reading that they aren't even sure if there is residue left in your veins.

But orange juice on crushed ice does not sound bad to me.

[This message has been edited by Lokil (edited 03-30-2001).]
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Old 2001-03-31, 07:45
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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i hear the legal nootropic piracetam is supposed to be amazing with mdma. pretty sure it should be at your health food store. god i hate goin in those places.
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Old 2001-04-01, 00:06
MAJIC_187 MAJIC_187 is offline
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snort-it................
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Old 2001-04-01, 18:46
neur0t0xicity neur0t0xicity is offline
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Smoke weed with it.

Theres nothing better than smoking a big fat joint after the rush is gone. Not only will the rush come back, it will be a much nicer one. Its even better to wait till the next day and then smoke. It will be the greatest stoned one can have. trust me :P



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Old 2001-04-01, 21:23
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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avoid serrotonin reuptake inhibitor anti-depressants if your on them. the main ones are citalopram(celexa is main manufacturing name),fluoxetine(prozac main manufacturer), paroxetine(paxil main manufacturer), and sertraline (zoloft main manufacturing brand name. though ssris are supposed to keep serratonin in your brain longer by preventing it from being reabsorbed by your neurotransmitters, ssri anti-depressents will decrease if not totally neutralize your roll.

note: wellbutrin sr is not an ssri and tricyclic anti depressants like sinequan, doxipin and elavil are not ssris but might have interactions with mdma you might wanna check out before rolling while one them
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Old 2001-04-02, 13:27
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My rush on MDMA kinda comes and goes. It'll come on real strong at first, then go down, then back up, etc. But it does it gradual. Also I cannot smoke weed with MDMA, it is a waste. It doesnt affect me in any way, nor does alcohol, (i learned that with shrooms too, except with shrooms it's just alcohol).
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Old 2001-04-02, 17:05
neur0t0xicity neur0t0xicity is offline
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then dont smoke it with the mdma, smoke it afterwards or the next day.
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Old 2001-04-02, 19:01
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Then, again...Are you even getting ecstasy (MDMA)? You're probably getting DXM, PMA, MDA, MDE, or plan ol' speed.
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Old 2001-04-03, 04:39
Frey Grimrod Frey Grimrod is offline
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Yah fucking impossible to find at the VERY BEST heavily adulterated crap being sold as MDMA around here so Im looking into mabye synthing it after a year of practise with other simpler shit and learning more chemestry.
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Old 2001-04-03, 05:59
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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have you actually ever had %100 pure MDMA? it isn't that fun at all. you always need a good %10 non-toxic(as in other than PMA and powdered GHB, PCC, etc...) adulterant in addition to the {methyl(if MDMA and not MDA)}amphetamine sub-cursor. Test it for yourself if you synth it correctly but you will find out that it actually isnt entirely what you'd expect it to be, almost as if it's missing a small pinch of a secret ingredient like a homemade spaghetti gravy(as we italians call our sauce).i'm interested in finding out if 4-methylaminorex would be subtle enough to be administered orally, and if so i'd imagine it would go great if i were to make my own 93%MDMA, 7% secret ingredient(estimated ratios) eXtasy "sauce".
oh what fun it could be!
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Old 2001-04-03, 07:14
PsychoTropic PsychoTropic is offline
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Pure MDMA is far better than any of the shit thats cut with other drugs. Ask any true ecstasy user, and they will tell you the same.

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Old 2001-04-03, 19:02
John316 John316 is offline
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I have another question,how would you know 4 sure that u have pure mdma,is there any way u can test it,or do u simple have to take ur local dealers word 4 it?
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Old 2001-04-03, 19:07
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by PsychoTropic:
Pure MDMA is far better than any of the shit thats cut with other drugs. Ask any true ecstasy user, and they will tell you the same.




a true quote from someone who has obviously no idea what the fuck they are talking about. thank you once again, for adding your blemished two cents psychotropic. you have now been noted as a true bullshitter.

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Old 2001-04-03, 19:10
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by John316:
I have another question,how would you know 4 sure that u have pure mdma,is there any way u can test it,or do u simple have to take ur local dealers word 4 it?



you could try distilling it after you know it does contain a compound with the methylene,diox precursers. this doesn't mean that you have avoided the less powerful MDA and MDE if you have used a test kit from a company like dancesafe and it has tested positive.
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Old 2001-04-03, 20:58
neur0t0xicity neur0t0xicity is offline
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Then, again...Are you even getting ecstasy (MDMA)? You're probably getting DXM, PMA, MDA, MDE, or plan ol' speed.


Oo, lokil has been reading erowid.

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The drugs other than mdma or mdea that are put in the pills are just left-overs.
The xtc manufactures obtain these chems cheaply and they are effectivly.
next a few nice and toxic chemicals are added from time to time which increase the feeling and a few mg's of mdm(e)a in the end. everything gets mixed up.
Next the powder is pressed into a pill form with a nice little label.
and there you have it, an xtc pill.

Well i dont like knowing that im swolowing some left overs from various drug labs not to mention other unknown (dangerous) chemicals as well.

ive come across pure mdma only twice, and ive only bought it ones. Took 500mg and had a very nice time. Yes slpwlkr333, you are right. It did feel as if something was missing. But i liked the thought that what i was taking was 100% pure. (yes i tested it and the testing paper turned black instantly, it even looked as if it started fizzing )

Anyways bottom line is that there is just too little mdma in ecstasy pills these days. I missed the huge serotonin rush feeling which i have had the pleasure enjoying again with the 100% pure shiat. Yes pure mdma doest give you the feeling you get from pills, but if i was to choose between having pure mdma or ecstasy pills, id go for the mdma without a doubt.


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Old 2001-04-04, 03:04
Frey Grimrod Frey Grimrod is offline
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In my mind pure is always better then you can mix in your own small amounts of binders so you know what ur getting and can fuck around with it till you get ur perfect "pasta sauce" as you stated.
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Old 2001-04-04, 03:20
PsychoTropic PsychoTropic is offline
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When looking for pure MDMA it is important to remember that a press tab is NEVER pure, cause it won't stick together if it is... so if they are telling you it's pure, chances are there is something bad in it.


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Old 2001-04-04, 04:46
Frey Grimrod Frey Grimrod is offline
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True True well the thing is that it seems to be hard to even find say 85% pure pills round here yah know.
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Old 2001-04-04, 11:13
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Trust me, all MDMA I've ever taken except 1 pill was absolutely positively 100% damn sure pure MDMA. And some people say pure MDMA is boring, but I think it's great. There IS nothing like rocketing into that speedy tactile trance. Also a great conversational tool, even better to pick up women.
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Old 2001-04-04, 16:25
neur0t0xicity neur0t0xicity is offline
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mdma is sold in caps or just powder form. it is possible to make a pure pill of mdma using a binder. that would still be considered pure but the problem is you will never come accross such pills as they'r too expensive to make. There are much cheaper alternatives, so the xtc producers wont chose this option. Unless your a producer yourself and want to make some quality pills, heh madchemist

So if some retart dealer is selling you xtc and says that its pure mdma, reply that you know that mdma cannot be pure due to its chemical state. Or sumthing like that
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Old 2001-04-04, 18:36
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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some people here are under the impression that the adulterants are the binders that keep the tabs sticking together. they are not. tabs will stick together if they are pure with inactive binders. the adulterants are other active ingredients, not inactive binders. just a note.
 
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