I posted this in the �Eat me� Forum as well so sorry if you have already read this.
I am looking for some recipes with weed if anyone has particularly good ones they would like to share, or the address of a file of them it would be much appreciated.

Mustard,

I read the first line of your post and stopped. Don't double post, it makes me scared.

K I won't do it again ........

boil some water in a pan.
Put an small pan or something on top of the pan with the water so that the bottom of the top pan touches the boiling water. Now put some chocolate bars in the small pan.
Put some hash (1/2 grams)in alu. foil and heat it up. Crumble the hash up after heating. Now put the hash in the chololate that is by now melted.
Mix it a bit and put the small pan in the fridge. The cholated will become hard again and you now have hash-chocolate.

very yammie yammie!

Thanx, sounds tasty.

how long does it take to get high? how much does it take? Is it more efficient than smoking? Is the high different?

Sorry about the number of questions.

It is noon on a Sunday morning and I feel informative.

Smoking is the most traditional way to get high but inhaling heated smoke can't be the best for your body. When you smoke weed you "peak" and then you come down. When you comsume it not only is it better for your body but it takes longer to come on and you "plateu" instead of "peaking" The high is more consuming and general.

I like baked goods myself. Remember Mustard THC is fat soluble. So you want to bond the THC to the kind of fat that stays the longest in your body - Saturated Fat. What is it saturated with? Hydrogen. So what do you do? I would take the shittiest upon shittiest weed I had and break it up as much as I could (If you had one of those spice grinders that would be good). Simmer the amount of butter that the recipe called for and the weed in a pan. Simmer for about 15 to 20 minutes. Remember thelonger the better, and the butter should turn green. Then add the butter and prepare the baked goods as usual. The high will take longer to come on and will stay longer.

Bee careful with how much you consume at first. I read that a student at UC Berkeley brought some to his class at a prank and they knocked some girls out when they ate them. Lesson: You don't know how strong they are. Have fun and Good Eatin' !

I should really be invited to submit some files to the site.

sorry to correct you but smoking weed is more healthy than eating it. Its way better for your lungs than cigs. Eating weed can be dangerous and so you shouldnt do it often. eating it will give you a much stonger effect though. When you smoke weed, alot of it is wasted, so yes, eating it is more efficent.


The stoned you get from eating weed is different than the stoned you get from smoking it. Its more trippy and much stronger. It takes a while to kick in. Times vary from 30 mins to 2 hours.

Its better to use hash than weed. You cant eat raw weed but you can eat raw hash. So if you use hash you dont need to worry about it being cooked enough. Hash is also stronger. Id say you need no more that 2 grams a person. one gram is about enough, depending no how good the hash is.

No, it's not "way better" for your lungs than cigs. It has more tar and more cancer causing chemicals than cigs. Please don't try to use that Euro logic here.

I am right...alone in the corner terminally ill from cancer from all the weed I have and will smoke, but still right.

Euro logic?
Oops, he does feel offended

If i am not sure of something, or if i give my personal opinion of something, you will always find me saying eg: "i think..." or "i was told that..."
If i give out facts i didnt make up myself, I always get them from a reliable source eg. books, tv or relable people.

In this case, i have heard from a number of people that weed is good for astmatic people. Untill comming across this fact myself in a reliable book i did not believe it either. I forgot the name of the book (will ask for it) but its a well known book that talks all about weed. Its non bias and uses data gathered from scientific studies to make its conclusions. In this book it said that weed is good for the lungs of astmatic people providing they only smoke ones in a while or something like that. It also said that the joints [for the asmatic people] should be pure joints, with no tabacco in them.

As the only things i heard from cigs are bad, and as people with cancer shouldnt smoke cigs or they will get worse, i came to the conclusion that weed must be better them cigs. Ok, maybe 'WAY better' was a wrong choise of words, i take that back, but weed is better.

You are right about weed causing cancer. Weed does cause cancer faster than cigs. But think about this. Whats worse? -smoking cigs all day long, for your entire life. Or smoking weed in the weekends or even ones every few days for a couple of years in your youth. I dont know any people that smoke cigs in weekends only, do you?

I dont get why people get offended so fast. What did i do wrong? i only corrected you that eating weed is worse than smoking it. No need to get all agro about it

ps. wheres "here"? -a laundry room?

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It's all good Neuro,

But that is an unfair example. What if you smoked weed with the same frequency as cigs...in three years you will get chronic bronchitis. A friend of mine that smoked weed like cigs, never went to class, tons of money, used to cough of pieces of his lung by the time the year was over.

Also, I understand your point about using "I think..." etc. I get my ideas from facts, it may take me a while to look them up, but I hope you don't think that I just pull shit out of the air. I am a very intelligent (albeit opinionated)individual and deserve a certain degree of respect as ALL of you receive it from me. It's apparent everytime I read your posts and feel obligated to respond.

P.S. At least I capitalized Euro, right?

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Yhea, id say that if you smoked joins as much a cigs you would have quite a problem.

I dont think you are full of shit and do resect you. Trust me, if i wouldnt you would know, ask Twist

And i think there nothing wrong with giving an opinion about my posts. Thats what a message board is for. if we would all agree with each other on everything there would be nothing to discuss now would there?

Ow and about Euro logic...
I take that as a compliment.

ps. I must stress that i consider cigs so bad because they add all sorts of chemicals to them as to make smokers very addictive to the cigs. People buy more and will not be able to quite as easy. Havent any of you noticed how hard it is / how hard people find it to quite smoking?

Some people who have gotten sick from cigs sued the companies. They sued them for not displaying all the ingredience on the package. They ve gotten millions of dollars.

Because cig companies are one of the richest cooperations in the world, they have so much power that no govt can prevent them from putting putting these chemicals in their product. Further more, they dont even need to label the chems as ingredience. Talking about bribe!

An ex-speed addict told me that he had a much harder time trying to stop smoking than stopping taking speed. That makes you think now doesnt it.

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"here" is America.

duh, i knew what you meant


Tell me, whats more logical:

Any goverment would like their citizens to use as less drugs eg. weed as possible. They have a few options to try to acomplish this

-make weed illigal
results: many people smoking weed cause they get a kick out of it being illigal.
there is no quality control on weed so all sort of shit is put on weed (eg PCP) so it gets stronger.

-make weed legal
results: people see it as a normal thing, such as beer. only a few people will be smoking it cause its nothing special.
because its legal there is quality control so you always get clean & healthy weed.

Further more, whats the logic of making propaganda against weed saying its really bad and you can die of one joint while weed is no worse than alcohol. (im talking about the US govt.)
reason? -They forbid weed many decades ago cause they couldnt impose tax on weed cause people can grow their own (unlike alcohol).
which is what happened for the ones that dont know.

*Is upset that Neurotoxicity opened Pandora's Box*

If you knew the way we operate here in America you wouldn't have presented this arguement. I will do my best to counter-agree but I first have to realize that each of our sides are leaving out considerable amount of facts.

Legal Weed: 1st)Will make the cancer rate jump! Neuro I don't know if you know this but cancer is really expensive treat, and here in America insurance usually pays for that. Those insurance aren't going to want to pay so some fucker can smoke some shit to make him forget about his problems...Every individual reacts/will react differently to weed. Who knows if he will become ill or not. 2)The absentee-ism rate will jump. Neuro you are a lot laid back in Europe. Here in America we work, work, work, earn, earn, earn. We cannot and more importantly will not pay and suffer because ppl will call in sick cause "they're sooooooo stoned" or "they woke up still stoned" 3)How are we going to sell it? Sure some people will grow but vendors will emerge. Who's going to package it? Private Corporations? The Governement? Are we going to have to put warnings like on cigarettes? What if they hide what's really in weed like cigs? Or what if they don't hide shit and make us saign a waiver that we won't sue? Neuro, in Europe if one person sues another ad wins, they get their legal fees paid for. That is not true in the U.S. We are free to sue at will 4) For GOD'S sake taxes!!! That's what makes this country great! Local? State? Federal? Neuro we have rights in this country that you are not even aware of...That makes things so incredibly complicated; I have barely scratched the surface. 5) The United States is a country under God *sniff* and even though it is not the same as it used to be 40-50 years ago because of all the laws we passed and all the different peoples we let in, we still hold on to some of those ideals. Drugs are not a way of life, and if they are, the users show it. Some people can get away with it, but those are select few. Just like those that can compete in the olympic games are a select few.

Illegal weed: I agree that non-violent drug users not deserve to be in jail. But if they buy from violent dealers then I am dumbfounded.

lets go on with the discussion but before we do lets get one thing straight. Weed is only legal in Holland. As we are talking only about this subject only now, we must refer to Holland instead of Europe.

Your facts:
1): If a country were to legalize a drug (weed in this case), what would happen is the following: number of users would increase in the beginning but after a while a decline of weed users will occur. In the end fewer people would be using the drug than before legalization. In Holland, fewer weed is smoked by its citizens than in any other European country and the US. This is a fact.
You say that the cancer rate will jump. Means you are thinking much more people will start using it. Wrong. Also wrong cause weed doesn't cause as much cancer as you seem to believe.
You also said that insurances wouldn't appreciate weed being legal. Do you have any idea of how much money insurances loose because of alcohol. Traffic accidents, destruction due to aggressive behavior, body damage due to fighting and health eg. kidney damage. The couple of people that would get cancer are nothing compared to this.
You seem to think some people get ill from weed. The only type of illness you get from weed i know of is barfing up. If you know an other one, plz let me know.

2): You remind me of some American dude that brought toilet paper with him on an exchange trip to Germany cause he wasnt sure we had any in europe. Lokil, holland isnt the south of italy. Here to we work just as hard and are a developed county. I think you people over in america be better educated about europe. Dont you have geography over there?
You say people will get to tired to want to work if they smoke weed. Whats worse to have in the morning: A hangover or the sleepiness you get of weed? You are forgetting one point as well. If people want to smoke up, they will, legal or illegal. I mean, ask yourself. The people that want to work work & work will stay away from weed.

3): All those question have simple answers.
selling: at special place where you need to be a certain age to get in. An you need a special license to have such a place.
packaging: No one, it gets put in plastic bags when you buy it.
warnings: The warnings will be displayed in public brochures which are made to educate people about drugs. (do you have those over there? -or are just all drugs considered lethal?)
When weed is legal, it will be pure and clean, nothing hidden inside of it cause of government controls. Unlike the weed you guys get now. (Americans tell me that weed over there gives you a really different feeling. Gets you all trippy and stuff. Meaning its covered with god knows what. If you ask me, In the US weed is bad!

4):Taxes. Solution: Impose high taxes on weed. Here taxes on weed are nearly 90%.
Tell me, what rights do you have in the US that you dont have here. You dont have the right to see nudity on TV. You dont have the right to hear swear words on tv. You dont have the right to buy CD with swearwords if you are under age. Are you even allowed to be top less on a beach or would you get arrested for that?

5): Im not sure i get your point here.
Why is the USA a country under god? what do you mean by that?
No country is the same in 40-50 years. Laws always change.
Different people you let in? I though the US has always been a big mixture of people. From its early days, it was all about different nationalities living together. America is as much black as it is white.
Nah, dont get that sentence at all actually, explain what you mean.
Drugs are only a way of live for crack headz and junkies. What do you mean by "the users show it"? And what do you mean by the last part where you talk about selected few?

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Illegal weed: I agree that non-violent drug users not deserve to be in jail. But if they buy from violent dealers then I am dumbfounded.

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Im happy you finally agree with me
If weed is legal, people wont need to come in contact with (violent) street dealers. The danger of people meeting drug dealers to buy weed is that there is a big chance that the drug dealer will start offering them hard drugs as well. "sorry man, i run out of weed for today, but i do have some other stuff, way better man, take some of this and your flying!" Know what i mean?


As with everything, there will be advantages and disadvantages when legalizing weed.

Negative:
-more people will start using it in the short run
-protests

Positive:
-in the long run, the amount of users will drop
-government control:
-lower price
-better quality
-no need to buy weed from dangerous dealers
-no black market for weed

So in my opinion its better to have weed legalized. If there is a demand, there will always be a supply. Why not make the supply legal and controlled with all the benefits as the supply will exist anyways, legal or not.

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a friend with weed, is a friend indeed

isnt it a shame no one has anything to say exept lokil and me? Or has lokil shut up to?

ah, what more can you expect from totse...

alright...I am fairly new to Totse..over the past few months I have read over the site, followed board discussions, and et cetra...
Im an educated person adn did some weed reshearch from biased and unbiased reports a bit....smoking weed is bad. smoking anything is bad. think...breathing in 'smoke' ...just any smoke, is hard on your lungs.
So, smoking weed is bad. Smoking cigs is bad.

People say, and in most cases are right. That smoking weed isnt as bad as smoking cigarrettes. They are right and wrong. Because people who smoke weed do not go through two packs a day...(like 20 joints)...but only have about one once a week or month....

Eating weed is healthier for you. You just have to more careful at your rate of consumption....and heh...never eat ciggarrets lol...there is enough nicotene in two of those to kill you. Instantly.

And on another note...shutup about the dam country thing alright. It is just plain annoying when some one starts to say we have laws and we are responsible unlike those people in other countries....

Neuro, your right when you say weed smoking will decline after legalization...there are very very few people who are educated and smoke weed because they enjoy it, most are just people with no life who beleive that they are suppose to smoke it...and be a badass breaking the law doing drugs...........

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Eating weed is healthier for you. You just have to more careful at your rate of consumption....and heh...never eat ciggarrets lol...there is enough nicotene in two of those to kill you. Instantly.

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you said it yourself. smoking cigs is not good, but if you eat them you can die.
this because you get its full poteny when eating it. so eating cigs is worse than smoking them, same with weed.

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Neuro, your right when you say weed smoking will decline after legalization...there are very very few people who are educated and smoke weed because they enjoy it, most are just people with no life who beleive that they are suppose to smoke it...and be a badass breaking the law doing drugs...........

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yes exactly!
so when weed is made legal, all these ppl will stop smoking...


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a friend with weed, is a friend indeed

Student_zero, hmm

A student that gets "zeros" on his schoolwork? I thought so, it shows.

Neurotoxicity, You can only expect more intelligent fair minded arguements from me.

I'll go back to something to said earlier...

1)Government Controls When? Where? You mean like the government controls we have on cigarettes? The allows all those terribly addicting chemicals to be put inside, to almost guarantee addiction?

When you said "Unlike the weed you guys get now" Hey! May you're right on that point heh.


2) As far as right are concerned. We have freedom to do many things, but we always have to think about the common good. common good. It's a conservative, whole-hearted, American concept that is hard to explain to the rest of the world. Esp. to you Euros.

You still refuse to acknowledge what I said about manufacturing and taxes.

Listen, I don't care if its 90% in Europe. Nuero, god dammit. Think. Congress, Lobbyists, grass roots pressure, so many factors will complicated your simple view of society. It may work, it probably won't.

The only superpower in the world is not going to legalize drugs when the whole world looks up to us. There is too much a tstake for us to lose.

nice lokill...very nice...shots at a handle, lol that is kinda funny.....oh well.
Are they going to legalize weed? Not in this century. Oh well. I hardly see why we argue these weird points, although I think its because they are very intresting....

Okay, on the eating VS smoking.

Eating Weed can..(dammit wheres html when I need it ) be more dangerous than smoking, becuase there is the risk of overdose, but smoking weed damages your lungs every time you smoke it, regardless of the ammounts, because....smoke is smoke....it has more crap in it than pure air, plain and simple. If you are as careful with weed as you are any other drug (and you would do this because you are not umm...below the IQ of five) ...it is healthier for you.

Its that plainly, if your an idoit that doesnt realize you can overdose on anything you shouldnt be eating weed...although, in that case you shoudlnt be smoking either....

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The path to peace is paved in the bricks of war

Good, I agree with most everything you said.

Weed won't be legalized as lon as we're a superpower.

*shudder*

To think, such ill thoughts. Oh, well I guess thats how Briton's felt in the 19th century

G'Day all. I'm a new user from Oz and something no one has mentioned in all your reasons for not legalising pot is that to my knowledge there is no road side test for intoxication or degree of intoxication.Also as mentioned earlier if the gov't can't make money out of it(via taxes if its legal they can make money out of it by keeping it illegal(fines).

mad: there is a road side test for intoxication.
how can a govt make money from something illigal? jails are expensive you know.

Lokil: Now your just starting to say lame things instead of giving good agruements.
All your other fellow americans seem to agree with me that weed shoud be made legal and that its stupid that its not.
See the other topic even.

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1)Government Controls When? Where? You mean like the government controls we have on cigarettes? The allows all those terribly addicting chemicals to be put inside, to almost guarantee addiction?

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Why do you seem to believe that the government is evil. If you hear the word government, you directly think of cover ups, consipiracies etc. And this is the same goverment you seem to be so proud of. Talking about logic lol.
You even believe its the government that puts the chemicals on sigarets, dont you?
Anyways, the government controls on weed is looking that the weed is weed with no other chemicals on it. Looking that not to much is sold. Looking that no one takes advantage over the market. Etc Etc. In other words. Good things to protect its citizens.

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2) As far as right are concerned. We have freedom to do many things, but we always have to think about the common good. common good. It's a conservative, whole-hearted, American concept that is hard to explain to the rest of the world. Esp. to you Euros.

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Yhea well its hard to understand indeed cause we just arnt so conservative here. We dont have a bunch of almost-dying-of-old-age-retards in congress or supreme court of whatever, that are afraid of changes.
Further more, we consider conservativity being bad and old fashioned.
ps. we have freedom to do every you can do in the US, and freedom to do more. This isnt some Islam place.

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You still refuse to acknowledge what I said about manufacturing and taxes.

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which is?

btw, you refused to acknowledge about alot of things i have set.

I hope you can continue to commmunicate in a normal fashion and not get all hyped up about your country being the best and greatest.

and ps. Do know, that i do understand why weed is illigal. (cause of conservativity and cuase the believe that "drugs is drugs" weed, herion, no difference)
Its just that i dont agree with this view on weed. Even you consider weed a bad thing. You do. Or you wouldnt say 'Weed won't be legalized as long as we're a superpower cause every looks up upon us.'

Hey Now:

Ya'll seemed to wander from this topic but thats kool its a free country...lol... free my ass...more free than others but ... who's to say freedom is in one's opinion and they ie: big brother can't never take that from us.

I want to say to thoses that run totse......
My hats off to ya'll......xcellent site!!!

Back to the topic:

Try a dble boiler
Butter
cheese cloth to strain the weed

opps that the horse before the cart

weed
h20

boil the weed in butter for awhile 30 min
strain the weed/butter thru cheese cloth and whalla.....more better butter!!!

use butter according to recipe.

p.s. years ago High Times had some great recipes ...sleigh me fruit smoothies, sensi stuffed trout and of course more better butter.

k i didnt read the hole thing but i smoked weed for a long time like 2 years like daily use. then i started cooking it and i like it so much that i was on cannabutter for apprx. 8 months then i smoked a joint and i had a really bad experice i mean it was soo different that i cant even stand to smoke it any more i can but it is just way diffferent before i started smokin it.

its so unhealthy to eat it every day.
I heard that someone died of eating weed day in day out. Maybe its not true, but rumours usualy arent 100% false.

i would be careful.
pEacE!